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    DNS Rebind attack conditions doesn't make sense

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      bshpire @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz This is not pointing to pfsense itself

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bshpire
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        @bshpire if the IP is not pointing to pfsense then there is no way you could end up on pfsense. Unless pfsense thinks that his IP as well.

        When you want to go to IP on a different network you send the traffic to the mac of your gateway but to your destination IP.. If pfsense has no portward to itself then it must think that IP is his.

        192.168.100.31 ---> 192.168.100.1 pfsense 172.16.12.1 ---> 172.16.12.250

        So .31 says oh that 172.16 address is not on my network, send it to the mac of my gateway 100.1 (pfsense) with destination IP 12.250

        So either you have a port forward that intercepts that, or pfsense thinks 12.250 is his address.. Do you have VIP setup on pfsense?

        You sure that fqdn resolve to 12.250 address and not 12.1 ?

        Is pfsense a VM? Is this all on VM host?

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Yup that^. Somehow it's hitting the pfSense webgui so it must be hitting an IP address on pfSense.

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            bshpire @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 Happy to screen share ;)

            pfsense running on specialized HW but everything else is either RPi or VMs (vSphere).
            Not happening when using mydomain.local

            Again, not pfsense, it's gitlab, Jenkins, vscode hosts

            I'm very curious myself to how this is happening
            Happy to pay netgate for a single ticket or TAC lite to get this resolved and understand the "how"

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Check the states when this is happening. If there is some translations being applied you would see it there.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bshpire
                last edited by johnpoz

                @bshpire well first thing I would do is do a quick look if you have a vip setup.. just look at the output of ifconfig on pfsense

                example - here my wan has a vip

                igb1: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                        description: WAN
                        options=4e100bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6,HWSTATS,MEXTPG>
                        ether 00:08:a2:0c:e6:25
                        inet 209.snipped netmask 0xfffff000 broadcast 255.255.255.255
                        inet 192.168.100.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255
                        inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e625%igb1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                        status: active
                        nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                

                unless you intercept traffic - nothing on pfsense could even answer unless it thinks the IP your going to is one of its IPs.. See the 192.168.100.2 IP that is a vip I have on my wan interface to use to talk to my modems 192.168.100.1 IP..

                See if I go to that I can see my pfsense gui

                vip.jpg

                But going back to where you say ssh works to the correct host.. That screams interception then for the port your hitting vs ssh.. Or proxy.. So you have no port forwards? You are not running a proxy on pfsense?

                You say it works when you use a different domain >Not happening when using mydomain.local

                So when you ssh to the host, are you using a fqdn or a IP.. Maybe your dns is just pointing to a pfsense IP? vs the actual IP of what your wanting to talk to.

                Are you using .local really? That is a mdns domain, not something that would normally resolve across subnets with out avahi or something responding.. Unless you were on the same L2 and the device answered itself.

                I would double check you have no interceptions setup on pfsense, that your fqdn your using actually resolves to the correct IP your talking to.. And that pfsense does not have this IP as one of its own. So you can't access vscode.mydomain.com when you use fqdn, what about via IP..

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                  bshpire @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 I disabled all port forward rules, only nat to outside is there per VLAN.

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                    bshpire @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz

                    Ssh host1.mydomain.local works
                    Browse host1.mydomain.local (http/https) works
                    Ssh host1.mydomain.com works
                    Browse host1.mydomain.com - weird redirection and DNS binding error

                    DNS is bind9 running on RPi running general cache DNS and local zones transfered from AD (my domain.local/com)

                    I will get screenshots to show resolution and scenarios above once back home

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @bshpire
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                      @bshpire said in DNS Rebind attack conditions doesn't make sense:

                      Ssh host1.mydomain.com works
                      Browse host1.mydomain.com - weird redirection and DNS binding error

                      Check the states created by these connections.

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                        bshpire @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 made too many changes in the last 48h ;)

                        now direct and reverse proxy nginx works, just complains about ltm vips

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