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    • DefenderLLCD
      DefenderLLC
      last edited by DefenderLLC

      I have also tried this with little success:

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      • DefenderLLCD
        DefenderLLC
        last edited by DefenderLLC

        Update: it works some of the time, but it’s certainly not consistent. When it does work, it does take a while before the message pops up on the end-user device. Until that happens, iCloud Private Relay still works.

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        • JonathanLeeJ
          JonathanLee
          last edited by

          Have you tried Squidguard that might help

          Make sure to upvote

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @DefenderLLC
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            @DefenderLLC I think you’re missing the trailing period:

            local-zone: "mask.icloud.com." always_nxdomain

            https://jpgpi250.github.io/piholemanual/doc/Block%20DOH%20with%20pfsense.pdf#page14

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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            • DefenderLLCD
              DefenderLLC @SteveITS
              last edited by DefenderLLC

              @SteveITS said in iCloud Private Relay:

              @DefenderLLC I think you’re missing the trailing period:

              local-zone: "mask.icloud.com." always_nxdomain

              https://jpgpi250.github.io/piholemanual/doc/Block%20DOH%20with%20pfsense.pdf#page14

              I actually had it in there originally. Apparently it just takes awhile for the device to recognize that iCloud private relay is no longer available. I ended up going down the pfBlocker path since it has so many other predefined options for blocking DoH and DoT services. Thanks.

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                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
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                @DefenderLLC old post but just curious. did you ever get this to work. My situation is that I block the domains for private relay, safari browser complains but cant access any website.

                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                • DefenderLLCD
                  DefenderLLC @michmoor
                  last edited by

                  @michmoor Hey man, good to hear from you. It's been nearly 2 years, but I think what I ended up doing back then was simply disabling that feature on our SSID settings on each device. I am still doing that today along with my current firewall. iCloud Private Relay does not play nicely with Control D (DNS), so we just disabled it altogether.

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                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                    last edited by

                    @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

                    disabling that feature on our SSID

                    Hey !! Hope all is well my friend.
                    What feature did you disable? For reference i have Unifi gear.

                    Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                    • DefenderLLCD
                      DefenderLLC @michmoor
                      last edited by DefenderLLC

                      @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                      @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

                      disabling that feature on our SSID

                      Hey !! Hope all is well my friend.
                      What feature did you disable? For reference i have Unifi gear.

                      On all of my Apple devices, I just turned off the "Limit IP Address Tracking" feature which is iCloud Private Relay. This setting is located in the Wi-Fi settings for each individual SSID, or you can just simply disable it entirely from your iCloud settings (which is account-wide). IPR always breaks my EFG's SSL decryption/inspection, so I no longer use IPR on my SSIDs.

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                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                        last edited by

                        @DefenderLLC Ahh i misunderstood. Ok cool. IPR is a pain when im trying to do filtering on applied clients.
                        How is the EFG working out?

                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                        • DefenderLLCD
                          DefenderLLC @michmoor
                          last edited by DefenderLLC

                          @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                          @DefenderLLC Ahh i misunderstood. Ok cool. IPR is a pain when im trying to do filtering on applied clients.
                          How is the EFG working out?

                          It's been great and I love being able to do IDS/IPS on the encrypted traffic with their optional CyberSecure Enterprise subscription (which is really Proofpoint's ET Pro @ $499/yr. under the hood) - EXCEPT - for this little PBR limitation which you can see the full story here:

                          https://community.ui.com/questions/EFG-Policy-Based-Routing-with-NeXT-AI-Enabled-Still-Broken/1401d094-4030-49b7-b711-d8e6cbf08f03#answer/1a8425e9-ef10-47ee-b186-904c0713b65d.

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                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                            last edited by michmoor

                            @DefenderLLC Pretty scathing (i think so) indictment of Next AI you wrote 😬
                            I will add that although its frustrating when a feature doesn't get implemented or implemented correctly, the grass isn't greener on this side of the garden either. Im dealing with unresolved but acknowledged issues.

                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                            • DefenderLLCD
                              DefenderLLC @michmoor
                              last edited by

                              @michmoor I’m starting to regret selling you my 6100 MAX! I may order another Netgate appliance in the future, but all in all, I’ve been pretty happy with the EFG. I swapped out the 16 GB with a 64 GB ECC module. If they did anything right designing this unit, it was their choice of ARM-based CPU with 18 cores. It screams.

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                                michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                                last edited by michmoor

                                @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

                                I’m starting to regret selling you my 6100 MAX!

                                lol. Interesting you say that because i have been eying at the very least a UDM Pro.
                                Im just to comfortable with my pfsense but i would love some better app control.
                                Would love to read a blog post from you about the pros vs cons of the EFG especially compared to a high end Netgate appliance like the 6100. You've got considerable play time with it.

                                Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                • DefenderLLCD
                                  DefenderLLC @michmoor
                                  last edited by DefenderLLC

                                  @michmoor I still have that UDM SE that I’m no longer using if you’re interested in purchasing it. I even have a brand new 8TB replacement HDD coming for it. I moved all of my Protect cameras to a UNVR Pro and installed Talk on the EFG (not supported, but it works fine), so it’s just sitting in the rack doing nothing. Text me!

                                  I’m out of rack space (again). UDM SE is just under the EFG.

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                                    michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                                    last edited by

                                    @DefenderLLC

                                    You're trying to get me again.......lol
                                    let me think about this.
                                    The biggest hurdle is converting these firewall rules. Thats a weekend task. Bad enough i have to do firewall migrations for my job but do it at home as well?

                                    Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                    Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                    Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                    Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                    JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                    • DefenderLLCD
                                      DefenderLLC @michmoor
                                      last edited by

                                      @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                                      @DefenderLLC

                                      You're trying to get me again.......lol
                                      let me think about this.
                                      The biggest hurdle is converting these firewall rules. Thats a weekend task. Bad enough i have to do firewall migrations for my job but do it at home as well?

                                      I like to use pfSense and UniFi together. In fact, that’s the way I ran it for over two years. They introduced zone based firewall rules now, so things are much more granular than they ever used to be. I guarantee you it wouldn’t take you more than a day.

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