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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @DefenderLLC
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      @DefenderLLC I think you’re missing the trailing period:

      local-zone: "mask.icloud.com." always_nxdomain

      https://jpgpi250.github.io/piholemanual/doc/Block%20DOH%20with%20pfsense.pdf#page14

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        DefenderLLC @SteveITS
        last edited by DefenderLLC

        @SteveITS said in iCloud Private Relay:

        @DefenderLLC I think you’re missing the trailing period:

        local-zone: "mask.icloud.com." always_nxdomain

        https://jpgpi250.github.io/piholemanual/doc/Block%20DOH%20with%20pfsense.pdf#page14

        I actually had it in there originally. Apparently it just takes awhile for the device to recognize that iCloud private relay is no longer available. I ended up going down the pfBlocker path since it has so many other predefined options for blocking DoH and DoT services. Thanks.

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
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          @DefenderLLC old post but just curious. did you ever get this to work. My situation is that I block the domains for private relay, safari browser complains but cant access any website.

          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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            DefenderLLC @michmoor
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            @michmoor Hey man, good to hear from you. It's been nearly 2 years, but I think what I ended up doing back then was simply disabling that feature on our SSID settings on each device. I am still doing that today along with my current firewall. iCloud Private Relay does not play nicely with Control D (DNS), so we just disabled it altogether.

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
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              @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

              disabling that feature on our SSID

              Hey !! Hope all is well my friend.
              What feature did you disable? For reference i have Unifi gear.

              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                DefenderLLC @michmoor
                last edited by DefenderLLC

                @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

                disabling that feature on our SSID

                Hey !! Hope all is well my friend.
                What feature did you disable? For reference i have Unifi gear.

                On all of my Apple devices, I just turned off the "Limit IP Address Tracking" feature which is iCloud Private Relay. This setting is located in the Wi-Fi settings for each individual SSID, or you can just simply disable it entirely from your iCloud settings (which is account-wide). IPR always breaks my EFG's SSL decryption/inspection, so I no longer use IPR on my SSIDs.

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
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                  @DefenderLLC Ahh i misunderstood. Ok cool. IPR is a pain when im trying to do filtering on applied clients.
                  How is the EFG working out?

                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                    DefenderLLC @michmoor
                    last edited by DefenderLLC

                    @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                    @DefenderLLC Ahh i misunderstood. Ok cool. IPR is a pain when im trying to do filtering on applied clients.
                    How is the EFG working out?

                    It's been great and I love being able to do IDS/IPS on the encrypted traffic with their optional CyberSecure Enterprise subscription (which is really Proofpoint's ET Pro @ $499/yr. under the hood) - EXCEPT - for this little PBR limitation which you can see the full story here:

                    https://community.ui.com/questions/EFG-Policy-Based-Routing-with-NeXT-AI-Enabled-Still-Broken/1401d094-4030-49b7-b711-d8e6cbf08f03#answer/1a8425e9-ef10-47ee-b186-904c0713b65d.

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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                      last edited by michmoor

                      @DefenderLLC Pretty scathing (i think so) indictment of Next AI you wrote 😬
                      I will add that although its frustrating when a feature doesn't get implemented or implemented correctly, the grass isn't greener on this side of the garden either. Im dealing with unresolved but acknowledged issues.

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                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
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                        DefenderLLC @michmoor
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                        @michmoor I’m starting to regret selling you my 6100 MAX! I may order another Netgate appliance in the future, but all in all, I’ve been pretty happy with the EFG. I swapped out the 16 GB with a 64 GB ECC module. If they did anything right designing this unit, it was their choice of ARM-based CPU with 18 cores. It screams.

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
                          last edited by michmoor

                          @DefenderLLC said in iCloud Private Relay:

                          I’m starting to regret selling you my 6100 MAX!

                          lol. Interesting you say that because i have been eying at the very least a UDM Pro.
                          Im just to comfortable with my pfsense but i would love some better app control.
                          Would love to read a blog post from you about the pros vs cons of the EFG especially compared to a high end Netgate appliance like the 6100. You've got considerable play time with it.

                          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                            DefenderLLC @michmoor
                            last edited by DefenderLLC

                            @michmoor I still have that UDM SE that I’m no longer using if you’re interested in purchasing it. I even have a brand new 8TB replacement HDD coming for it. I moved all of my Protect cameras to a UNVR Pro and installed Talk on the EFG (not supported, but it works fine), so it’s just sitting in the rack doing nothing. Text me!

                            I’m out of rack space (again). UDM SE is just under the EFG.

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                              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @DefenderLLC
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                              @DefenderLLC

                              You're trying to get me again.......lol
                              let me think about this.
                              The biggest hurdle is converting these firewall rules. Thats a weekend task. Bad enough i have to do firewall migrations for my job but do it at home as well?

                              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                              JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                DefenderLLC @michmoor
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                                @michmoor said in iCloud Private Relay:

                                @DefenderLLC

                                You're trying to get me again.......lol
                                let me think about this.
                                The biggest hurdle is converting these firewall rules. Thats a weekend task. Bad enough i have to do firewall migrations for my job but do it at home as well?

                                I like to use pfSense and UniFi together. In fact, that’s the way I ran it for over two years. They introduced zone based firewall rules now, so things are much more granular than they ever used to be. I guarantee you it wouldn’t take you more than a day.

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