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    • jhmc93J
      jhmc93 @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz that's why I use my main stuff like laptop, pc, game consoles, phone, tablet etc offf my isp wifi or hardwired directly into isp router so I get the full speed, as for the pfsense side I wanted to keep that separate just for my server usage.

      @stephenw10 I think the wiring in my house is old so it kinda slows the download speed down, as I have checked through TP Link app it talking to the other powerline plug at 253mb but slows down when hits pfsense

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jhmc93
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        @jhmc93 said in Local DNS Records on different subnet:

        other powerline plug at 253mb

        yeah that number is like phy in wifi, your never going to actually get to that speed.

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        • jhmc93J
          jhmc93 @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 I haven't resolved this issue my firewall rules are the following, this is being tried on a test machine but I'm unable to ping the machine off my laptopp on my isp router to the linux ubuntu server or connect via ssh? what am I doing wrong?
          Screenshot_1.png

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            If you're still trying to connect from a laptop in the pfSense WAN subnet to a server in the LAN subnet the primary thing you need is a route to allow it.

            That probably means adding a static route to the laptop directly. It has to be a route to the LAN subnet via the pfSense WAN address.

            Without that the laptop will send that traffic via it;s default gateway which is the ISP router. And that probably has no idea where to route it so will either drops it or send it to the ISP... where it will be dropped.

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            • jhmc93J
              jhmc93 @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 so what your saying is I need to add a static ip to the laptop on the isp side?,
              As u can see I did a route in that screenshot above but my laptop is getting it IP from the DHCP server on isp side

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                You need to add a static route to the laptop so it sends that traffic to pfSense instead of the ISP router.

                I'm not seeing any screenshots showing routes. But to be clear that route has to be added to the laptop directly in this setup.

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                • jhmc93J
                  jhmc93 @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 so how would I go about doing that?
                  Change the gateway via static IP on laptop?

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                  • jhmc93J
                    jhmc93 @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 is this not a route? 54b6be5c-6a87-461e-90b6-15d8421f6759-image.png

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Those are firewall rules.

                      What operating system is your laptop running?

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                      • jhmc93J
                        jhmc93 @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 Windows 11

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by stephenw10

                          OK so at the Windows command prompt do something like:
                          ROUTE -P ADD 192.168.11.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.100

                          Where 192.168.11.0/24 is the pfSense LAN subnet and 192.168.0.100 is the pfSense WAN address. I don't think you ever said what the WAN address is so replace that. Earlier in the thread it looked like the pfSense LAN was using 10.84.0.0 so if it is then replace that.

                          If you then run ROUTE PRINT in the laptop you should see that route in the table so it then knows how to reach the pfSense LAN.

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                          • jhmc93J
                            jhmc93 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 so will that allow me to access my dns records pointing to traefik on my lan side, on my isp lan?

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @jhmc93
                              last edited by

                              @jhmc93 said in Local DNS Records on different subnet:

                              dns records pointing to traefik on my lan side

                              DNS 'points' to A or AAAA addresses, TXT fleds, MX (mail server host names), CNAM (= other DNS fileds)
                              but not to traefik ? = traffic !?

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                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              • jhmc93J
                                jhmc93 @Gertjan
                                last edited by

                                @Gertjan I have pi hole set up on my isp lan with an A record pointing to my traefik reverse proxy machine on my pfsense LAN

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes that would allow your laptop to reach the DNS server behind pfSense.

                                  Though I still advise against this entirely because it will cause problems down the line. 😉

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                                  • jhmc93J
                                    jhmc93 @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 what kind of problems?

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                                    • jhmc93J
                                      jhmc93 @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 so I tried it on a test machine, so IP is different, but what have I done wrong??
                                      Screenshot_3.png

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Because it relies on the client being configured to reach it then any changes on the client may break it. And in this circumstance that would mean the client loses DNS. If Windows is updated for example.

                                        Or if you add some other client you have to remember to add the static route.

                                        I imagine I could think of at least 10 ways this could bite you. 😉 I have seen many customers with similar setups where things mostly worked until they didn't.

                                        But for that one device it should work for now.

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                                        • jhmc93J
                                          jhmc93 @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 look up, it hasn't worked unfortunately

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok so 192.168.0.75 is the pfSense WAN IP address?

                                            And 70.86.90.0/24 is the pfSense LAN subnet? A public /24 subnet?

                                            That seems unlikely and you previously showed it as 192.168.11.0/24.

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