Recommendation for Bell XGS-PON 3/3G Firewall with PPPoE bypass

[iphoneking]

@Eric-Carroll I am using the router linked below with my Bell 3/3 fiber connection using PPPoE passthrough and I get the full 3gbps speed for download and upload.

https://teklager.se/en/products/routers/1u-rack-10gbit-router

[stephenw10]

Yeah the Xeon W-1290 is very fast compared to the C3558. But even so the single thread rating is only ~3.5X faster so it probably wouldn't do more than, say 5Gbps with the current PPPoE.

[mr_nets]

BTW, regarding the PPPoE single thread thing, I read somewhere on Reddit that it's related to the netgraph framework being slow and the developers are working on something to address this. Should I stop to read Reddit or it will come in a further release?

[jwt]

@mr_nets that was me.

Netgraph is over-locked and inherently single-threaded. No amount of multi-queue config can overcome same, and it shouldn’t take a Xeon to terminate a client-side PPPoE connection.

We’ve been on a mission to eliminate netgraph from pfsense. PPPoE is the last bit. So we’ve written a new pppoe module that doesn’t use netgraph.

It’s in the next release.

[mr_nets]

@jwt Awesome, thanks for the update !!

[Eric Carroll]

@jwt Sorry for the thread necromancy, but when you said "next release" could you give me an idea of what version you are thinking of?

I have pfsense Plus 24.11 now running, does that have the PPPoE fix?

Given the PPPoE rewrite what would be the necessary netgate hardware needed to get to 1 Gb/s PPPoE, or 3 Gb/s PPPoE?

Thanks.

[stephenw10]

It should be in 25.03 barring any last minute issues.

[jahonix]

@stephenw10
I will get fiber with XGS-PON and PPPoE in the coming weeks. Is there an ETA for 25.03 with the PPPoE changes mentioned?

[stephenw10]

It's in the available Beta for testing now. It will be released as soon as possible but that depends on squashing all the bugs and not finding new ones.

[jahonix]

Thanks, haven't looked into betas for quite some time.
Moved on, new job and merely no time to juggle around the pfSense UI. As long as it works I have no need to change something.

@stephenw10 said in Recommendation for Bell XGS-PON 3/3G Firewall with PPPoE bypass:

It will be released as soon as possible but

And IIRC: it will be released when it's ready.
(which is totally fine!)

Shoot .. I lost my pfSense+ device and it seems Netgate no longer issues home-lab versions, right? Are there plans to support it in CE as well?

[stephenw10]

Yes, the if_pppoe module is in 2.8-beta too.