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Recommendation for Bell XGS-PON 3/3G Firewall with PPPoE bypass

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Dec 6, 2024, 11:24 AM

    Yeah the Xeon W-1290 is very fast compared to the C3558. But even so the single thread rating is only ~3.5X faster so it probably wouldn't do more than, say 5Gbps with the current PPPoE.

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      mr_nets
      last edited by Dec 6, 2024, 2:37 PM

      BTW, regarding the PPPoE single thread thing, I read somewhere on Reddit that it's related to the netgraph framework being slow and the developers are working on something to address this. Should I stop to read Reddit or it will come in a further release?

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        jwt Netgate @mr_nets
        last edited by Dec 6, 2024, 3:43 PM

        @mr_nets that was me.

        Netgraph is over-locked and inherently single-threaded. No amount of multi-queue config can overcome same, and it shouldn’t take a Xeon to terminate a client-side PPPoE connection.

        We’ve been on a mission to eliminate netgraph from pfsense. PPPoE is the last bit. So we’ve written a new pppoe module that doesn’t use netgraph.

        It’s in the next release.

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          mr_nets @jwt
          last edited by Dec 6, 2024, 7:22 PM

          @jwt Awesome, thanks for the update !!

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            Eric Carroll @jwt
            last edited by Feb 17, 2025, 3:27 AM

            @jwt Sorry for the thread necromancy, but when you said "next release" could you give me an idea of what version you are thinking of?

            I have pfsense Plus 24.11 now running, does that have the PPPoE fix?

            Given the PPPoE rewrite what would be the necessary netgate hardware needed to get to 1 Gb/s PPPoE, or 3 Gb/s PPPoE?

            Thanks.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Feb 17, 2025, 12:03 PM

              It should be in 25.03 barring any last minute issues.

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                jahonix @stephenw10
                last edited by jahonix May 6, 2025, 9:04 AM May 6, 2025, 9:03 AM

                @stephenw10
                I will get fiber with XGS-PON and PPPoE in the coming weeks. Is there an ETA for 25.03 with the PPPoE changes mentioned?

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by May 6, 2025, 12:16 PM

                  It's in the available Beta for testing now. It will be released as soon as possible but that depends on squashing all the bugs and not finding new ones.

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                    jahonix @stephenw10
                    last edited by jahonix May 12, 2025, 11:30 AM May 12, 2025, 11:22 AM

                    Thanks, haven't looked into betas for quite some time.
                    Moved on, new job and merely no time to juggle around the pfSense UI. As long as it works I have no need to change something.

                    @stephenw10 said in Recommendation for Bell XGS-PON 3/3G Firewall with PPPoE bypass:

                    It will be released as soon as possible but

                    And IIRC: it will be released when it's ready. 😉
                    (which is totally fine!)

                    Shoot .. I lost my pfSense+ device and it seems Netgate no longer issues home-lab versions, right? Are there plans to support it in CE as well?

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by May 12, 2025, 12:34 PM

                      Yes, the if_pppoe module is in 2.8-beta too.👍

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