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    • w0wW
      w0w @chrcoluk
      last edited by

      @chrcoluk said in if_pppoe serious problems with php-fpm causing loops.:

      I think its a timing issue, dhcp6c is called too early on if_pppoe

      I just want to clarify — you're not using a multi-WAN configuration, right? And no CARP?

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        chrcoluk @w0w
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        @w0w There is only one active pppoe, I think its pppoe2, because of an old WAN config that was disabled ages ago.

        Not using CARP.

        pfSense CE 2.8.0

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          @chrcoluk said in if_pppoe serious problems with php-fpm causing loops.:

          /var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh

          What's in that script in each pppoe mode?

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            chrcoluk @stephenw10
            last edited by chrcoluk

            @stephenw10 I already know the contents in if_pppoe mode, I dont know when I can next reboot as I have been annoying people with all the stuff I am doing, but will check it on mpd as soon as possible. I think this one is without debug activated.

            #!/bin/sh
            
                This shell script launches /etc/rc.newwanipv6 with a interface argument.
                dmips=${new_domain_name_servers}
                dmnames=${new_domain_name}
                case $REASON in
                REBIND)
                /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c rebind on pppoe2"
                ;;
                REQUEST|RELEASE)
                /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RELEASE, REQUEST or EXIT on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                ;;
                RENEW|INFO)
                /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RENEW on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                esac
            
            

            pfSense CE 2.8.0

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              chrcoluk @w0w
              last edited by chrcoluk

              @w0w I have now deleted the old dormant pppoe0, there is no pppoe1, so now pppoe2 is the only PPP listed in the PPPs section and is assigned to WAN. This is just me tidying up though. I doubt its related as its been sitting there for probably 2 years unused (not assigned to any interfaces) since I stopped using that service.

              pfSense CE 2.8.0

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @chrcoluk
                last edited by

                @chrcoluk said in if_pppoe serious problems with php-fpm causing loops.:

                This shell script launches /etc/rc.newwanipv6 with a interface argument.

                That line should be commented:
                # This shell script launches /etc/rc.newwanipv6 with a interface argument.

                Is that just a typo?

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                  chrcoluk @stephenw10
                  last edited by chrcoluk

                  @stephenw10 It is commented in the actual file.

                  # cat /var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh
                  #!/bin/sh
                  # This shell script launches /etc/rc.newwanipv6 with a interface argument.
                  dmips=${new_domain_name_servers}
                  dmnames=${new_domain_name}
                  case $REASON in
                  REBIND)
                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c rebind on pppoe2"
                  ;;
                  REQUEST|RELEASE)
                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RELEASE, REQUEST or EXIT on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                  /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                  ;;
                  RENEW|INFO)
                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RENEW on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                  /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                  esac
                  

                  I have just noticed this is repeating every hour in the general log.

                  php-fpm 	<pid> 	/rc.newwanipv6: rc.newwanipv6: Info: starting on pppoe2. 
                  

                  So even with the IPv6 online after my manual intervention, its unhappy about something, maybe because it never worked with the automatic attempt.

                  This from earlier when I ran dhcp6c manually.

                  rc.newwanipv6: pfSense package system has detected an IP change or dynamic WAN reconnection - -> 2001:8b0:<blah> - Restarting packages
                  

                  pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Can you see what's triggering that? Anything else logged at the time?

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                      chrcoluk @stephenw10
                      last edited by chrcoluk

                      @stephenw10 I got no idea what actually calls the script, it is isolated in the log, nothing else getting logged at the same moment.

                      It is isolated in the general log, but is coinciding with dhcp6 renew stuff which seems to happen every hour in the dhcp log.

                      I dont think this used to generate an rc.newwanipv6 log entry on the old pppoe though. Maybe this change is 2.8.0 specific, from what I can tell this is just log noise the dhcp6 looks like its renewing error free, and rc.newwanipv6 now seems to announce to the log when it starts.

                      pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                        chrcoluk @stephenw10
                        last edited by chrcoluk

                        @stephenw10 Ok I just made this patch and now it comes up automatically.

                        --- /etc/inc/interfaces.inc     2025-05-20 15:25:19.000000000 +0100
                        +++ /etc/inc/interfaces.inc        2025-07-07 19:48:09.639482000 +0100
                        @@ -4028,6 +4028,7 @@
                                        kill_dhcp6client_process(true);
                                        /* Lock it to avoid multiple runs */
                                        touch("/tmp/dhcp6c_lock");
                        +               mwexec("/bin/sleep 6");
                                        mwexec("/usr/local/sbin/dhcp6c {$debugOption} " .
                                            "{$noreleaseOption} " .
                                            "-c {$g['varetc_path']}/dhcp6c.conf " .
                        

                        I dont mind doing what you requested for the script contents on the old pppoe, but thats extended down time with the reboot, so will try it tomorrow morning when everyone asleep.

                        pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                        • w0wW
                          w0w @chrcoluk
                          last edited by

                          @chrcoluk said in if_pppoe serious problems with php-fpm causing loops.:

                          So even with the IPv6 online after my manual intervention, its unhappy about something

                          Receiving RA packets can trigger this, which is normal.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Hmm, interesting.

                            Does it still show the newwanip log every hour?

                            Nothing in the dhcp log at that time?

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                              chrcoluk @stephenw10
                              last edited by chrcoluk

                              @stephenw10 It does but it seems that might be normal behaviour now. w0w's reply suggests that as well.

                              I have 2 dhcp6c clients running, which might be down to my manual intervention earlier, so I will reboot tomorrow morning to get the contents of that script for you and then check if is only one clent after I boot back into if_pppoe again and with it starting on that 6 second delay.

                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	got an expected reply, sleeping.
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	removing an event on pppoe2, state=RENEW
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	script "/var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh" terminated
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	1126 	dhcp6c RENEW on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	executes /var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	add an address 2001:<blah> on pppoe2
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	update an address 2001:<blah> pltime=3600, vltime=31104153164832
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	update an IA: NA-0
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	dhcp6c Received INFO
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	IA_NA address: 2001:<blah> pltime=3600 vltime=7200
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option IA address, len 24
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	IA_NA: ID=0, T1=3600, T2=5760
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option identity association, len 40
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	DUID: <blah>
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option server ID, len 10
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	DUID: <blah>
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option client ID, len 14
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	receive reply from <blah>%pppoe2 on pppoe2
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	send renew to ff02::1:2%pppoe2
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set option request (len 4)
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set elapsed time (len 2)
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set identity association
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set IA address
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set server ID (len 10)
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	set client ID (len 14)
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	a new XID (e1ca48) is generated
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	Sending Renew
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	reset a timer on pppoe2, state=RENEW, timeo=0, retrans=9042
                              Jul 7 21:50:18 	dhcp6c 	38871 	IA timeout for NA-0, state=ACTIVE
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	XID mismatch
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	IA_NA address: 2001:<blah> pltime=3600 vltime=7200
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option IA address, len 24
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	IA_NA: ID=0, T1=3600, T2=5760
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option identity association, len 40
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	DUID: <blah>
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option server ID, len 10
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	DUID: <blah>
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	get DHCP option client ID, len 14
                              Jul 7 21:50:00 	dhcp6c 	38871 	receive advertise from <blah>:0%pppoe2 on pppoe2 
                              

                              pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Ok, yup that does look normal. It does log the received RAs which is what I expected.

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                                  chrcoluk @stephenw10
                                  last edited by chrcoluk

                                  @stephenw10 Ok as promised, here is the contents of the dhcp6c wan script from mpd.

                                  #!/bin/sh
                                  # This shell script launches /etc/rc.newwanipv6 with a interface argument.
                                  dmips=${new_domain_name_servers}
                                  dmnames=${new_domain_name}
                                  case $REASON in
                                  REBIND)
                                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c rebind on pppoe2"
                                  ;;
                                  REQUEST|RELEASE)
                                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RELEASE, REQUEST or EXIT on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                                  /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                                  ;;
                                  RENEW|INFO)
                                  /usr/bin/logger -t dhcp6c "dhcp6c RENEW on pppoe2 running rc.newwanipv6"
                                  /usr/local/sbin/fcgicli -f /etc/rc.newwanipv6 -d "interface=pppoe2&dmnames=${dmnames}&dmips=${dmips}&reason=${REASON}"
                                  esac
                                  

                                  dhcp6c.conf for good measure

                                  interface pppoe2 {
                                          send ia-na 0;   # request stateful address
                                          request domain-name-servers;
                                          request domain-name;
                                          script "/var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh"; # we'd like some nameservers please
                                  };
                                  id-assoc na 0 { };
                                  

                                  On booting back up again in if_pppoe, there is now no obvious operational issues, no looping and IPv6 is assigned locally on the firewall WAN interface via DHCP6.

                                  This is with combined use of the patch made to stop the looping, and my own patch to delay execution of dhcp6c by 6 seconds.

                                  However I do have 3 instances of dhcp6c running. It was zero with the dhcp6 failing before I added the delay, but the delay may have added a side effect. I will look at interfaces.inc again to see if I can tidy this up and remove the duplication issue.

                                  --update

                                  I moved the sleep command prior to the lock check, also reduced it to 3 seconds, as I think 6 was excessive, I now have only one process, the pid file matches the actual pid, and everything looks clean now.

                                  Also looks like disabling dhcp6c debug, stops the hourly log noise. Explains why I didnt notice it before.

                                  pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice debugging. Now why would that be required for your connection.... 🤔

                                    Can you show the new patch you've ended up using?

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                                      chrcoluk @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 Yeah sure.

                                      --- /etc/inc/interfaces.inc     2025-05-20 15:25:19.000000000 +0100
                                      +++ /etc/inc/interfaces.inc        2025-07-07 19:48:09.639482000 +0100
                                      @@ -4024,6 +4024,7 @@
                                               * lock deleted.
                                               */
                                       
                                      +        mwexec("/bin/sleep 3");
                                              if (!file_exists("/tmp/dhcp6c_lock")) {
                                                      kill_dhcp6client_process(true);
                                                      /* Lock it to avoid multiple runs */
                                      

                                      Also

                                      # ps ax | grep dhcp6
                                      88258  -  Is      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/dhcp6c -d -c /var/etc/dhcp6c.conf -p /var/run/dhcp6c.pid pppoe2
                                      99730  1  S+      0:00.00 grep --color dhcp6
                                      
                                      # cat /var/run/dhcp6c.pid 
                                      88258
                                      

                                      pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                                        chrcoluk
                                        last edited by

                                        ISP is doing LNS maintenance over the upcoming week, so will see how that reconnection goes.

                                        Also I patched mss clamping in the scrub code to make it 52 bytes instead of 40 for timestamps overhead, and wow things have never performed so good, so that combined with this driver is working really well for me now.

                                        pfSense CE 2.8.0

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Hmm did I miss something about timestamps? What did you discover that required that?

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                                          • w0wW
                                            w0w
                                            last edited by

                                            So, are we talking about RFC 1323 and a modification to /etc/inc/filter.inc?

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