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      aGeekhere @johnpoz
      last edited by aGeekhere

      @johnpoz I do no have any Access Lists and in the doc https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/dns-redirect.html

      Clients using DNS over TLS or DNS over HTTPS could circumvent this protection. Redirecting or blocking port 853 may help with DNS over TLS, depending on the clients.
      
      See Blocking External Client DNS Queries for additional advice.
      

      So far ipv4 as per the doc works, ipv6 seems to not work

      Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @aGeekhere
        last edited by johnpoz

        @aGeekhere - my point is that statement about the depending on the client - a sane client will validate the cert given back. If its not valid it won't work. One of the major points of both doh and dot is validation that your talking to who you think you are talking to - a dot client that doesn't validate the cert is utter shit.. what would use a shit client that doesn't validate the cert?

        If you are getting a reject - points to unbound ACL not allowing the query.

        Forget the dot redirect for a moment - and do a simple dig or nslookup query to pfsense IPv6, and then to some other IPv6 - do you get an answer when direct to ipv6 IP of pfsense, and then a reject on the redirect?

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          Gertjan @aGeekhere
          last edited by Gertjan

          @aGeekhere said in DNS Block and Redirect for IPv6:

          did i make an error or is it a bug?

          I've tried to do the same thing as you : NAT IPv6 DNS traffic to "::1".
          Guess what : for the usual reasons I could't make it work neither.
          Reading this wasn't motivating :
          be72b6c8-004e-43de-afc4-58ec2ff919e4-image.png

          Anyway.

          On my LAN, I added a IPv6 DNS NAT, NOT using "::1" , but the pfSense LAN IPv6.

          9b34bcd0-6276-4c14-a3be-75a251ad5125-image.png

          which produced this LAN firewall rule :

          be8831a9-4966-465c-9b66-a7382790255c-image.png

          Take note of the second rule that blocks all DNS IPv6 traffic.

          Test on the console/ssh :

          [25.07-RC][root@pfSense.brit-hotel-fumel.net]/root: dig @2001:4860:4860::8888 test-domaine.fr AAAA +short
          2001:41d0:2:927b::15

          ( means : I ask Google's IPv6 DNS, 2001:4860:4860::8888 to resolve test-domaine.fr for AAAA )
          That worked out.

          Now, from my PC :

          C:\Users\Gauche>nslookup
          Serveur par defaut :   pfSense.bhf.tld
          Address:  2a01:cb19:abcd:a6e2:92ec:77ff:fe29:392c
          > server 2001:4860:4860::8888
          Serveur par defaut :   dns.google
          Address:  2001:4860:4860::8888
          
          > test-domaine.fr
          Serveur :   dns.google
          Address:  2001:4860:4860::8888
          
          Réponse ne faisant pas autorité :
          Nom :    test-domaine.fr
          Addresses:  2001:41d0:2:927b::15
                    5.196.43.182
          

          I asked nslookup to use "2001:4860:4860::8888" as the DNS server which is Google IPv6 DNS (the modern 8.8.8.8).

          So .. I'm not sure. Redirecting to ::1 didn't worked.
          When I redirect to the pfSense IPv6 LAN IP ( 2a01:cb19:abcd:a6e2:92ec:77ff:fe29:392c ), it worked.
          So, we can't redirect to ::1 ?
          Ok, so be it.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            aGeekhere @johnpoz
            last edited by aGeekhere

            @johnpoz Here is some output
            16292bc6-7695-43ed-9556-b8e3df8b6799-image.png

            Both block 1 and 2 which is ipv4 seems to be working correctly as per the doc

            Block 3 and 4 which is ipv6 does not look correct

            Unless i have not understood the doc or missed something.

            Update:
            @Gertjan Ah so you were able to recreate the issue, could this be a bug?

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @aGeekhere
              last edited by Gertjan

              @aGeekhere said in DNS Block and Redirect for IPv6:

              Ah so you were able to recreate the issue, could this be a bug?

              Maybe, maybe not .. not sure. read above, as I got it working by not using ::1.

              @johnpoz I wasn't even trying to use 853 is DNS over TLS, as I can't map out that rabbit hole right now ......
              Just good old plain port 53 DNS UDP and TCP.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                aGeekhere @Gertjan
                last edited by aGeekhere

                @Gertjan Because if you read here https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/dns-redirect.html

                It uses 127.0.0.1 as the ipv4 loopback address so i would have though that for ipv6 you would use ::1 as the loop back address. If ::1 does not work what can be used for a loop back address for ipv6?

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                • GertjanG
                  Gertjan @aGeekhere
                  last edited by

                  @aGeekhere said in DNS Block and Redirect for IPv6:

                  what can be used

                  See above :

                  @Gertjan said in DNS Block and Redirect for IPv6:

                  When I redirect to the pfSense IPv6 LAN IP ( 2a01:cb19:abcd:a6e2:92ec:77ff:fe29:392c ), it worked.

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                    aGeekhere @Gertjan
                    last edited by aGeekhere

                    @Gertjan Ok going to try switching it from ::1 to pfsense LAN ipv6 address. Will report back with results.

                    Update: More testing is needed but i think that worked.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @aGeekhere
                      last edited by

                      @aGeekhere might be related to having to be the same scope

                      nat.jpg

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                      • GertjanG
                        Gertjan @johnpoz
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz

                        That's the same image / conclusion I posted above ^^

                        But I'm not using link-local "fe80" stuff.
                        I can see the IPv6 DNS port 53 traffic using packet capturing.
                        It's the IPv6 GUA = the ddevice's LAN IPv6 being used.

                        Anyway, redirecting to ::1 is not what worked before like using 127.0.0.1. ...

                        Maybe I'll use AI for this one 😊

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
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                          @Gertjan oh I missed that - my bad.

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