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    To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!

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    • provelsP Offline
      provels @Zermus
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      @Zermus Same thing here on physical. Oh, well.

      Peder

      MAIN - pfSense+ 24.11-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
      BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

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      • GertjanG Offline
        Gertjan @chudak
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        @chudak

        Same thing here : SG-4100 and it really looks like 25.07 was build for it ๐Ÿ˜Š
        Its up and running now for two days, all is well, nothing goes of the charts.
        Captive portal clients can still connect (its high season) - no one is yelling here.

        @mcury said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

        Service_Watchdog

        Really ? The best known system killer out there.

        It has been ages for me that processes died on me.

        edit : ah, ok, Rebel Alliance - I get it ;)

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          mcury Rebel Alliance @Gertjan
          last edited by mcury

          @Gertjan said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

          Same thing here : SG-4100 and it really looks like 25.07 was build for it ๐Ÿ˜Š

          Indeed =)

          It has been ages for me that processes died on me.

          In version 24.11, I had issues with the NUT service failing to start on boot. That's why the service watchdog, only for NUT.
          Iโ€™ll try disabling it in this new version 25.07 to see how that goes now.

          edit : ah, ok, Rebel Alliance - I get it ;)

          ahahahah, nothing like fresh adrenaline in the morning ๐Ÿ˜Š

          Edit:

          One thing I noticed is the disk IO decreased?
          iostat -x is showing now around 50, it was around 75 before, can you confirm ?

          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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          • GertjanG Offline
            Gertjan @mcury
            last edited by Gertjan

            @mcury said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

            In version 24.11, I had issues with the NUT service failing to start on boot. That's why the service watchdog, only for NUT.
            Iโ€™ll try disabling it in this new version 25.07 to see how that goes now.

            Wait .....
            Thanks !!
            I still see that : after a upgrade-reboot and normal reboot (?) the UPS service is shown down on the dashboard. After hitting 'Save' on the Services > UPS > Settings page, it's up and running. Never actually took some time to investigate why it doesn't start on boot.
            So, I could (ab)use the "service watchdog" for this .... interesting ๐Ÿ‘
            Thanks again for the suggestion.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              JD 0
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              I saw similar behavior in NUT several releases back (don't recall which). But it's not resurfaced since. The instance running is polling the UPS over SNMP.

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              • Z Offline
                Zermus
                last edited by Zermus

                FWIW doing a "pfSense-upgrade -d" from CLI fixes this for me and does the upgrade properly. Not sure why that works and the GUI fails lol. I did have to rebuild my base packages. Here is what ChatGPT had to say about it. I had the same problem, two different locations, network providers, etc. One is in a datacenter with multiple network redundancies so I doubt it was a network issue.

                1. Root cause:
                  The core problem was due to an incomplete or partially failed upgrade from pfSense 24.11 to 25.07. The missing critical libraries (libmd.so.7), corrupted package repositories, and broken package signatures indicate that some part of the upgrade script was interrupted, incomplete, or encountered dependency conflicts.

                2. Specific indicators of broken upgrade:
                  Missing libraries (libmd.so.7) causing package operations to fail.

                Missing critical files (/usr/local/sbin/read_global_var, /usr/local/libexec/pfSense-upgrade, and /etc/version) indicate that pfSense-base or core packages were only partially upgraded.

                Invalid or broken repository signatures (pkg-static: Error loading trusted certificates) point to repository configuration or trust issues post-upgrade.

                Dependency conflicts (IGNORE_OSVERSION prompts) clearly indicated version mismatches due to packages from different pfSense/FreeBSD versions.

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                • AndyRHA Offline
                  AndyRH
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                  Updated my 7100. Took less than 5 minutes.

                  For some unknown reason the CPU usage has dropped. Even with a speed test pushing 1.29Gb the CPU only gets to about 50%. Yesterday that same test was pushing 80%. Crazy...

                  o||||o
                  7100-1u

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                  • stephenw10S Online
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Hmm, what version were you seeing 80% usage in?

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                    • AndyRHA Offline
                      AndyRH @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 24.11 would idle above 30% and speed test would push it over 80%. The only change was the upgrade.
                      I never saw a performance problem so I never chased it.
                      For a short time I had 2Gb internet and it would hit 100% pushing 2.5Gb which was the limit of the test machine.

                      o||||o
                      7100-1u

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                      • stephenw10S Online
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, interesting! PPPoE WAN with the new driver maybe?

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                        • AndyRHA Offline
                          AndyRH @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Fiber straight into the 7100. Nothing funky. No heavy packages.
                          With no performance hit I did not see a reason to chase it.

                          Someone fixed something and made it better.

                          In theory I could boot the old image and Clonezilla the disk. ๐Ÿ˜€

                          o||||o
                          7100-1u

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @AndyRH
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                            @AndyRH said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                            Someone fixed something and made it better.

                            I'll take it. ๐Ÿ˜

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