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    To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!

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    • AndyRHA Online
      AndyRH @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10 24.11 would idle above 30% and speed test would push it over 80%. The only change was the upgrade.
      I never saw a performance problem so I never chased it.
      For a short time I had 2Gb internet and it would hit 100% pushing 2.5Gb which was the limit of the test machine.

      o||||o
      7100-1u

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, interesting! PPPoE WAN with the new driver maybe?

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        • AndyRHA Online
          AndyRH @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 Fiber straight into the 7100. Nothing funky. No heavy packages.
          With no performance hit I did not see a reason to chase it.

          Someone fixed something and made it better.

          In theory I could boot the old image and Clonezilla the disk. ๐Ÿ˜€

          o||||o
          7100-1u

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @AndyRH
            last edited by

            @AndyRH said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

            Someone fixed something and made it better.

            I'll take it. ๐Ÿ˜

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            • chudakC Offline
              chudak
              last edited by chudak

              Finally upgraded 24.03 to 25.07.1

              After the initial reboot the network seemed to be messed up, I could not even ping or login to my router.

              However after the power off and on everything looks normal.

              I did skip the previous major update as my system was rebooting by itself every 5-11 minutes.

              So now need to see that that problem is gone.

              Cross my fingers :)

              List of installed packadges:

              9b71728a-04e3-4c55-a685-cb7762109473-image.png

              UPDATE

              The problem is not fixed :(

              I see every ~17 minutes system kinda reboots.

              The reason I say "kinda" that last shows one reboot I did after upgrade

              [25.07.1-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.wawona.lan]/root: last -4 reboot
              shutdown time Tue Aug 19 13:23

              But up-time in the UI goes up to ~17 min, then I see services go down and then back up again

              And that's every ~17 min!!!

              Anybody any clues?

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                What do you see logged when that happens?

                What are you running on?

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                • chudakC Offline
                  chudak @stephenw10
                  last edited by chudak

                  @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                  What do you see logged when that happens?

                  What are you running on?

                  QOTOM-Q355G4

                  UPDATE:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

                  Spent 2 h trying to see what could have caused reboots/resets/up/down unsuccessfully and decided to restore the 24.03 boot env. And ... it did not work, verification during the boot failed!!!! And then another one did not work either etc. Finally I got old 23.x version booted. But I realized that I need to do a fresh install.

                  Thx to AI for helping to figure what key to press for BIOS setup :)

                  Long story short, I did fresh install + restore old config.xml and so been running for 24 + min (before it was rebooting every 17)

                  So hope I am out of the woods....

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    So a clean install of 25.07.1 is running OK?

                    Hmm, hard to imagine would could have caused that. ๐Ÿค”

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                    • chudakC Offline
                      chudak @stephenw10
                      last edited by chudak

                      @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                      So a clean install of 25.07.1 is running OK?

                      Hmm, hard to imagine would could have caused that. ๐Ÿค”

                      Well there are several issues

                      1. The s/w change from 24.03 + caused issues. Support's assumption it was h/w issue turned out to be untrue
                        This is a difficult problem to find a root cause for and my route h/w may have played a role as well.

                      2. Boot environments restore failed for multiple snapshots. That is really bad. I have no system around anymore for troubleshooting but I hope somebody can reflect and think about what could have caused that. That was scary, the whole reason I did not to want fresh reinstall because my false feeling that boot envs were safe. Alas :(

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                      • A Offline
                        Antibiotic @chudak
                        last edited by Antibiotic

                        @chudak Looks like on 25.07.1 AES-GSM broken, have a speed 2oo mb with openVPN client and DCO enabled. Before on 24.11 has a speed almost 1 gb with openVPN. https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198535/massive-10x-performance-regression-in-aes-gcm/7

                        pfSense plus 25.07.1 on Topton mini PC
                        CPU: Intel N100
                        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                        Brgds, Archi

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          That is the testing tool only. Whatever you've hitting there it's not a general openssl issue.

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                          • chudakC Offline
                            chudak @chudak
                            last edited by

                            said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                            @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                            What do you see logged when that happens?

                            What are you running on?

                            QOTOM-Q355G4

                            UPDATE:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

                            Spent 2 h trying to see what could have caused reboots/resets/up/down unsuccessfully and decided to restore the 24.03 boot env. And ... it did not work, verification during the boot failed!!!! And then another one did not work either etc. Finally I got old 23.x version booted. But I realized that I need to do a fresh install.

                            Thx to AI for helping to figure what key to press for BIOS setup :)

                            Long story short, I did fresh install + restore old config.xml and so been running for 24 + min (before it was rebooting every 17)

                            So hope I am out of the woods....

                            My adventure did not end there.
                            I found that 25.07.1 was very unstable.

                            I could not reboot the system running 25.07.1.

                            It'd come up but no LAN or WAN name resolutions and no matter what I tried I could not make it reboot with no issues. I suspect it was Kea DHCP but switching back did not help either...

                            So I had to reinstall clean 24.03 and .... I see no issues!

                            Not sure what to say, but 25.07.1 was a disaster (at least for me :( )

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

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                              • chudakC Offline
                                chudak @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                                Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

                                I have to leave soon and can't troubleshoot much longer, will try next tie when I back next to the router.
                                That's BTW why I am so touchy about being able to manage this remotely.

                                But I doubt it's boot issue.
                                Why do you suspect this?

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                                • stephenw10S Offline
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

                                  Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.

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