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    Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE

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    • dennypageD Offline
      dennypage @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

      @dennypage since I know airprint sends to multicast address 224.0.0.251, I would assume airplay does the same for discovery via mdns - I have never bothered to look that deep into them when did testing bfore for other threads on how to validate mdns is being passed on. But options might be set. Which would be blocked now unless rule set to allow them.
      If that is the case - I would have to test, but its late here - then yeah it could be blocked now without conscious act to allow.

      mDNS packets do not have options set. And remember, by default pfSense has always dropped packets with options set — it’s just that the drops were silent until 24.x.

      The issue regarding multicast with options is with IGMP, which requires the router alert option.

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @dennypage
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        @dennypage true - they did always drop before. When I have tested this I always created a floating to rule to make sure 224.0.0.251 was for sure allowed. But all good points.

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          markster @dennypage
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          @dennypage I did not made any changes just enable Avahi on the 2 interfaces. It is always been like that.
          Anyway, I decided to make things easier without Avahi and place both TV's on the same segment as my AP router. AP router has 4 Ethernet ports so it can act as AP and a switch. All working good.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @markster
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            @markster said in Now Available: pfSense® Plus 25.07-RELEASE:

            to make things easier without Avahi and place both TV's on the same segment as my AP router.

            There you go.. I personally think that is a much better solution - and requires no breaking of the L2 barrier. mdns was never meant to cross networking boundaries.

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              jos-andel
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              Upgraded from 24.11 to 25.07 on our spare Netgate 7100 unit. We always do this for testing, and so far it looks good.

              But after the upgrade monitoring complains:
              SWAP CRITICAL - 0% free (0 MB out of 0 MB) - Swap is either disabled, not present, or of zero size.

              And monitoring is probably right, since there seems to be no more swapspace after the upgrade:
              [25.07-RELEASE][admin@spare7100]/root: swapinfo
              Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity

              On my other units which still are on 24.11 I get:
              /dev/ada0p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%
              /dev/ada1p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%

              On my upgraded box /etc/fstab still has the entries for swapspace:

              Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#

              /dev/ada0p2 none swap sw 0 0
              /dev/ada1p2 none swap sw 0 0

              When I run 'swapon -a' on command-line, the swap activates and monitoring turns green once more.

              Is this intended to be this way, or a bug maybe, or just bad luck this boot ?

              Tomorrow I can try another reboot, see what happens then.

              Jos Andel

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Nope that's not expected. SWAP should be enabled by default if it's present. Are you running UFS or ZFS?

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                  jos-andel @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10
                  We are running on zfs. Today I rebooted to test if I could reproduce it, after this reboot still no swapspace and another alert in the monitoring. So looks like reproducable.

                  Thanks, Jos

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Do you see any errors at boot? Have you ever made any custom changes to the SWAP setup?

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                      jos-andel @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10
                      We never changed swap setup. Always upgraded through the normal upgrade procedure. From version 23 to 25.

                      In my dmesg boot output:
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xffffffff80760600, 0) error 1
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff807606b0, 0) error 1
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff80760760, 0) error 1
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_bss_fw, 0xffffffff8077fdd0, 0) error 1
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff8077fe80, 0) error 1
                      module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff8077ff30, 0) error 1

                      But nothing related to swap.

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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Yeah those errors from the wifi drivers are normal when the hardware isn't present.

                        Hmm, I wonder if this is because you have multiple SWAP devices.

                        Try running: /bin/cat /etc/fstab | /usr/bin/grep swap | /usr/bin/awk '{ printf $1 }' | /usr/bin/head -n 1

                        That's what the RC script runs to get the swap device, if it returns something unexpected it may fail.

                        Do you see /tmp/fstab.swap present?

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                          jos-andel @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10
                          I think you're onto something.

                          25.07-RELEASE][admin@vpnspare.mgmt.blah]/root: /bin/cat /etc/fstab | /usr/bin/grep swap | /usr/bin/awk '{ printf $1 }' | /usr/bin/head -n 1
                          /dev/ada0p2/dev/ada1p2[25.07-RELEASE][admin@vpnspare.mgmt.blah]/root:

                          cat /tmp/fstab.swap
                          /dev/ada0p2/dev/ada1p2 none swap sw 0 0

                          That doesn't look like a correct device, so it's quite likely that this breaks it. We have 4 Netgate 7100's which are like this, with two SSD's built in. We got them delivered like this, no modifications done (except for a broken PSU two times).

                          On 24.11 it works just fine, and probably on all previous versions we used as well in the past 3 years or so.

                          On 24.11 it looks like this:
                          /root: swapinfo
                          Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity
                          /dev/ada0p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%
                          /dev/ada1p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%
                          Total 2097152 0 2097152 0%

                          root: cat /tmp/fstab.swap

                          Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#

                          /dev/ada0p2 none swap sw 0 0
                          /dev/ada1p2 none swap sw 0 0

                          Thanks, Jos

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                          • stephenw10S Offline
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Aha! Ok let me do some digging here....

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Ah, already reported in 2.8: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16232

                              Looks like an easy enough fix though. Patch incoming....

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Ok this works for me: 175.diff

                                It's a very simple (one character!) change so you might just manually edit the file. Let us know if you're able to test that.

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                                  jos-andel @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10

                                  Just tested the patched pfSense-rc on our spare unit.

                                  /etc: diff pfSense-rc.org pfSense-rc
                                  590c590
                                  < SWAPDEVICE=/bin/cat /etc/fstab | /usr/bin/grep swap | /usr/bin/awk '{ printf $1 }' | /usr/bin/head -n 1

                                  SWAPDEVICE=/bin/cat /etc/fstab | /usr/bin/grep swap | /usr/bin/awk '{ print $1 }' | /usr/bin/head -n 1

                                  Works like a charm:
                                  : swapinfo
                                  Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity
                                  /dev/ada0p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%
                                  /dev/ada1p2 1048576 0 1048576 0%
                                  Total 2097152 0 2097152 0%

                                  : cat /tmp/fstab.swap

                                  Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#

                                  /dev/ada0p2 none swap sw 0 0
                                  /dev/ada1p2 none swap sw 0 0
                                  [25.07-RELEASE][admin@arn1-ops-vpnspare.mgmt.sidn.nl]/etc:

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                                    mvikman
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                                    @stephenw10

                                    I'm planning to upgrade, but still on 24.11 and I have ZFS mirror with GEOM mirrored swap, would this problem affect my system or is it just for systems with multiple separate (non-mirrored) swap partitions on the both drives?

                                    pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                    Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                    Core i5-6500, 24GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                    HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                    HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                    • stephenw10S Offline
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Try running the new command in 24.11: /bin/cat /etc/fstab | /usr/bin/grep swap | /usr/bin/awk '{ printf $1 }' | /usr/bin/head -n 1

                                      If that returns a valid device it will be fine in 25.07.

                                      Either way it won't prevent you upgrading. And you should just be able to apply the patch afterwards to regain SWAP. If you need it.

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                                        mvikman @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10
                                        It returns "/dev/mirror/swap" so guessing it should be ok.
                                        Never had pfSense using any swap, but better safe than sorry... :)

                                        pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                        Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                        Core i5-6500, 24GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                        HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                        • stephenw10S Offline
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Yup should be fine. 👍

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                                            jos-andel @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10

                                            As expected, also works just fine on 25.07.1-RELEASE.

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