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    Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      malindsay @WB3FFV
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      @WB3FFV Once updated to 25.07, I was able to recover by selecting older kernel then selected an image that previous worked. But then I tried to update again, and it made the system unusable had to reinstall. On reinstall, I tried to install 25.07, and it still fails to boot. I then restarted the update, but this time I selected a previous version, and now that system is once again operational.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        In a UFS install you can choose to boot the previous kernel but it will still be in the new updated filesystem. So you would expect to see some things non-funtional.

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          WB3FFV @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Understood, and as the HP had a RAID controller built in, I am sure I stayed with UFS. Actually it might have been loaded before ZFS became the default.

          I was trying to get to the .1 update you mentioned before, but booting the old kernel seems to prevent that, and of course booting the current kernel results in a boot failure, so makes it a fail..

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yeah the benefit of snapshot boot environments in ZFS is significant. I usually recommend using ZFS against the drives directly if it's possible these days.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Can we assume these boxes still boot fine if you boot in legacy mode?

              As far as I know this is a UEFI loader problem.

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                WB3FFV @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 You know, I am not sure. I will take the CE load I have, kill it, and load it as BIOS instead of UEFI, just UEFI is the default..

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                  WB3FFV @WB3FFV
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                  Well I took and reloaded the DL360 G9 server, and walked through the upgrades. I set it to BIOS mode vs UEFI, and was able to go all the way to 2.8.1 beta and it booted and ran fine. So guessing the assumption this is a UEFI issue is correct.

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                    WB3FFV @WB3FFV
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                    @stephenw10 The million dollar question is, should load modern servers in BIOS or UEFI mode? I assumed now days UEFI was an improvement and the preferred method, but maybe not..

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                      Unoptanio @WB3FFV
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                      @WB3FFV

                      I would like to know that too

                      pfSensePlus24.11 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        It should work in UEFI mode and everything vaguely modern should be using that. But that confirms it's the same issue we're looking at and not something new.

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                          WB3FFV @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Sounds like at the moment, if you use an HP server in UEFI mode, don't update to the new release, or it's going to break.

                          I use a lot of HPE servers, so happy to test any possible fixes if desired. I will not update any more of my HP based PFsense installs til a fix is found..

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                            malindsay
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                            version 25.07.01 does not work on HP systems either. crashes after boot menu

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                              malindsay @malindsay
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                              https://jumpshare.com/s/wIn5syv1KFQ0VrLvrSdX

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                                malindsay @WB3FFV
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                                @WB3FFV I tried to update to 25.07.01, and it once again fails to boot

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                                • stephenw10S Offline
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Yup, that looks like the same issue. Try booting legacy to confirm.

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                                    WB3FFV @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 I did update a system to the current version having loaded it as BIOS, and it was fine. Are you asking to take a UEFI loaded system, and just changing it from UEFI to BIOS and see what happens?

                                    I didn't think I could just jump from one to the other. For sure this seems to affect all HPE systems that support UEFI..

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                                      malindsay @WB3FFV
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                                      @WB3FFV I didn't try to adjust the BIOS; perhaps I will try this next. I've never had to change the BIOS in the past.

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        pfSense can usually boot both unless it was installed a while ago (years). It should be pretty obvious if there's nothing bootable in legacy mode.

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                                          WB3FFV @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 I had to run out of two for a couple days to help someone, so I am happy to try when I return, or maybe one of the other HP owners on here will give it a whirl..

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                                            malindsay @WB3FFV
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                                            @WB3FFV I tried the new version, I had to reload from scratch, even the backup didn't work

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