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    Syslog service in pfSense v2.8.1 often stop itself

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    • T Offline
      tsmalmbe @slu
      last edited by

      @slu Yes exactly I needed this very obvious steps clearly spelled out to me :) Thank you.

      Security Consultant at Mint Security Ltd - www.mintsecurity.fi

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      • provelsP Offline
        provels
        last edited by

        FWIW, I see the service stop randomly, too, but I just use a second HDD mounted on the system drive for my remote logging, so no remote syslog server that might require FW rules. I'd suggest turning on notifications on Watchdog as well so you can check logs.

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Do you see any errors logged before it stops? I assume you're using syslog-ng locally for the extra disk?

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          • provelsP Offline
            provels @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 Get back to you later.

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            • provelsP Offline
              provels @stephenw10
              last edited by provels

              @stephenw10 Yes, syslog-ng. I'm actually seeing the same type of messages the remote log server users are. Rinse/repeat.
              I enabled the watchdog a few days ago but no new notifications of restart since. Notifications are working, as I just enabled the service and waited for the syslogd restart to confirm. From all the repeated entries I see, it seems syslogd get restarted often, far more often than the watchdog would indicate. Some normal, expected actions from syslog-ng? Archiving? Don't know, just blathering. Excuse me if I state the obvious... ๐Ÿ˜Š

              Sep 30 17:09:30	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
              Sep 30 17:09:30	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
              Sep 30 17:09:29	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
              Sep 30 17:09:01	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
              Sep 30 17:09:01	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
              

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, good question. It must be syslog-ng restarting. I would expect that to be logged somewhere though...

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                • provelsP Offline
                  provels @stephenw10
                  last edited by provels

                  @stephenw10 I see a string of these. The => syslog start is the one watchdog started after I enabled it. Doesn't really seem to follow logic, though...
                  Daemon exited gracefully, not restarting; exitcode='0'

                  Sep 30 17:08:05	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
                  Sep 30 17:08:00	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                  Sep 30 17:07:58	supervise/syslog-ng	46549	Daemon exited gracefully, not restarting; exitcode='0'
                  => Sep 30 11:17:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                  Sep 20 08:43:22	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                  Sep 20 08:43:22	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                  Sep 20 08:43:22	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
                  Sep 20 08:42:49	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                  Sep 20 08:42:49	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                  Sep 20 08:41:53	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
                  Sep 20 08:41:47	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                  Sep 20 08:41:46	supervise/syslog-ng	39433	Daemon exited gracefully, not restarting; exitcode='0'
                  Sep 19 20:20:27	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                  Sep 18 05:55:38	supervise/syslog-ng	64260	Daemon exited gracefully, not restarting; exitcode='0'
                  Sep 17 09:05:00	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                  

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                  • provelsP Offline
                    provels @stephenw10
                    last edited by provels

                    @stephenw10 Got a notification that syslogd was restarted at 00:15 today. Looks like the previous default.log gzipped at 23:50, so had that been what stopped syslogd, watchdog would have caught it a minute later.
                    SYSTEM LOG from last night to present

                    Oct 3 03:07:59	php-fpm	70563	/index.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 192.168.0.82 (Local Database)
                    Oct 3 03:01:00	root	93209	rc.update_bogons.sh is sleeping for 30028
                    Oct 3 03:01:00	root	92013	rc.update_bogons.sh is starting up.
                    Oct 3 01:01:00	php-cgi	63710	rc.dyndns.update: phpDynDNS (mydom.ddns.net): No change in my IP address and/or 25 days has not passed. Not updating dynamic DNS entry.
                    Oct 3 00:15:03	php-cgi	55524	notify_monitor.php: Message sent to admin@mydom.net OK
                    Oct 3 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                    Oct 2 21:47:53	php-fpm	44887	/index.php: User logged out for user 'admin' from: 192.168.0.82 (Local Database)
                    

                    SYSLOG-NG

                    Oct 3 00:00:00 fw syslog-ng[50722]: Configuration reload finished;
                    Oct 3 00:00:00 fw syslog-ng[50722]: Configuration reload request received, reloading configuration;
                    Oct 3 00:10:00 fw syslog-ng[50722]: Log statistics; processed='destination(_DEFAULT)=319', dropped='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(internal_source)=319', queued='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(msg_clones)=0', processed='source(_DEFAULT)=319', processed='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=319', processed='global(sdata_updates)=0', stamp='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=1759467600', queued='global(scratch_buffers_count)=0', processed='global(payload_reallocs)=312', processed='center(queued)=319', processed='center(received)=319', queued='global(scratch_buffers_bytes)=0'
                    Oct 3 00:15:02 localhost syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                    Oct 3 00:15:02 localhost syslogd: restart
                    Oct 3 00:20:00 fw syslog-ng[50722]: Log statistics; processed='destination(_DEFAULT)=359', dropped='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(internal_source)=320', queued='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(msg_clones)=0', processed='source(_DEFAULT)=359', processed='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=320', processed='global(sdata_updates)=0', stamp='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=1759468200', queued='global(scratch_buffers_count)=0', processed='global(payload_reallocs)=313', processed='center(queued)=359', processed='center(received)=359', queued='global(scratch_buffers_bytes)=0'
                    

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Hmm, well if syslog-ng is restarting that would certainbly explain why syslogd sees the refusals and hence ends up stopping. But I don't know why syslog-ng would be doing that,

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                      • D Offline
                        DBMandrake @sokeada
                        last edited by DBMandrake

                        @sokeada Noticed this problem a couple of times myself over the last two weeks.

                        I don't use syslog-ng but do log System Events, General Authentication Events and VPN Events to a remote syslog server on a LibreNMS server.

                        Although I don't have the data to confirm it, after reading this thread the failures very likely correlate with a reboot of that remote server.

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          The workaround firewall rules should work for you there.

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                          • A Offline
                            AlexanderK
                            last edited by

                            i am facing the same issue.
                            Any fix expept from watchdog and rules?

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                            • provelsP Offline
                              provels @AlexanderK
                              last edited by provels

                              @AlexanderK At least with Watchdog you'll get informed when it happens. That will give you something to work with to try tracking it down in the logs. That said, mine stopped again a few days ago, coincidentally at 00:15 again (marked XXXX). Perhaps it is some timing issue in syslogd that works only 95% of the time? There re plenty of instances of syslogd exiting and successfully restarting a second later, but sometimes it doesn't without a kick in the pants. In any case, I'll stick with watchdog for the present, won't hurt. Just adding to the conversation, not a big issue for me.

                              XXXX Oct 14 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                              Oct 8 02:45:53	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                              Oct 8 02:45:53	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                              Oct 8 02:45:52	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
                              Oct 8 02:45:22	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                              Oct 8 02:45:22	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                              Oct 8 02:44:27	syslogd		exiting on signal 15
                              Oct 8 02:44:21	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                              XXXX Oct 3 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
                              Sep 30 17:09:30	syslogd		sendto: Connection refused
                              

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                If it's actually external you can add the work-around stateless floating rules to prevent the connection refused message.

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                                • provelsP Offline
                                  provels @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 If directed at me, it's not external. It's a second HDD internal to the FW, mounted as a directory on the system SSD. Not complaining.

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    No sorry that was at the previous poster. The workaround rule won't work for traffic to syslog-ng locally. ๐Ÿ˜•

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