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    • LaxarusL Offline
      Laxarus @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10
      Added these to /boot/loader.conf.local and rebooted the firewall

      then

      ixl1: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/2048, RX 8/2048
      ixl1: SR-IOV ready
      ixl1: PCI Express Bus: Speed 8.0GT/s Width x8
      ixl1: Allocating 8 queues for PF LAN VSI; 8 queues active
      ixl1: Ethernet address: 3c:ec:ec:dc:b3:a1
      ixl1: Using MSI-X interrupts with 9 vectors
      ixl1: Using 8 RX queues 8 TX queues
      ixl1: Using 2048 TX descriptors and 2048 RX descriptors
      ixl1: PF-ID[1]: VFs 64, MSI-X 129, VF MSI-X 5, QPs 768, MDIO & I2C
      ixl1: fw 9.121.73281 api 1.15 nvm 9.20 etid 8000e153 oem 1.269.0
      ixl1: <Intel(R) Ethernet Controller XXV710 for 25GbE SFP28 - 2.3.3-k> mem 0x38bffd000000-0x38bffdffffff,0x38bfff000000-0x38bfff007fff irq 40 at device 0.1 numa-domain 0 on pci7
      ixl0: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/2048, RX 8/2048
      ixl0: SR-IOV ready
      ixl0: PCI Express Bus: Speed 8.0GT/s Width x8
      ixl0: Allocating 8 queues for PF LAN VSI; 8 queues active
      ixl0: Ethernet address: 3c:ec:ec:dc:b3:a2
      ixl0: Using MSI-X interrupts with 9 vectors
      ixl0: Using 8 RX queues 8 TX queues
      ixl0: Using 2048 TX descriptors and 2048 RX descriptors
      ixl0: PF-ID[0]: VFs 64, MSI-X 129, VF MSI-X 5, QPs 768, MDIO & I2C
      ixl0: fw 9.121.73281 api 1.15 nvm 9.20 etid 8000e153 oem 1.269.0
      ixl0: <Intel(R) Ethernet Controller XXV710 for 25GbE SFP28 - 2.3.3-k> mem 0x38bffe000000-0x38bffeffffff,0x38bfff008000-0x38bfff00ffff irq 40 at device 0.0 numa-domain 0 on pci7
      

      idle

      last pid: 28275;  load averages:    1.19,    1.84,    1.08                                      up 0+00:08:07  03:49:25
      644 threads:   9 running, 603 sleeping, 32 waiting
      CPU 0:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.8% interrupt, 98.0% idle
      CPU 1:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.8% interrupt, 98.4% idle
      CPU 2:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  2.0% system,  0.8% interrupt, 97.3% idle
      CPU 3:  1.2% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.8% interrupt, 98.0% idle
      CPU 4:  1.2% user,  0.0% nice,  2.0% system,  0.4% interrupt, 96.5% idle
      CPU 5:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.4% interrupt, 99.2% idle
      CPU 6:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle
      CPU 7:  1.2% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.4% interrupt, 98.4% idle
      Mem: 509M Active, 187M Inact, 2135M Wired, 28G Free
      ARC: 297M Total, 138M MFU, 148M MRU, 140K Anon, 1880K Header, 8130K Other
           228M Compressed, 596M Uncompressed, 2.62:1 Ratio
      Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free
      
        PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU1     1   6:12  98.71% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU3     3   6:13  97.83% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU4     4   6:18  97.72% [idle{idle: cpu4}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      6   6:18  97.53% [idle{idle: cpu6}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU2     2   6:13  97.51% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      5   6:01  97.14% [idle{idle: cpu5}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU7     7   5:59  97.12% [idle{idle: cpu7}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU0     0   5:49  97.08% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
      71284 www          24    0   142M    39M kqread   6   0:31   7.91% /usr/local/sbin/haproxy -f /var/etc/haproxy/haproxy.
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     0   1:00   1.64% [intr{swi1: netisr 1}]
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K -        0   1:48   1.34% [kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     5   1:09   1.19% [intr{swi1: netisr 7}]
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K -        2   0:35   0.94% [kernel{if_io_tqg_2}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     4   0:28   0.93% [intr{swi1: netisr 5}]
      

      and testing from win11 pc to a proxmox host

      PS D:\Downloads\iperf3> .\iperf3.exe -c 192.168.55.21 -P 8 -w 256K -t 50
      Connecting to host 192.168.55.21, port 5201
      [  5] local 192.168.30.52 port 62052 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [  7] local 192.168.30.52 port 62053 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [  9] local 192.168.30.52 port 62054 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ 11] local 192.168.30.52 port 62055 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ 13] local 192.168.30.52 port 62056 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ 15] local 192.168.30.52 port 62057 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ 17] local 192.168.30.52 port 62058 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ 19] local 192.168.30.52 port 62059 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 5201
      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
      [  5]   0.00-1.01   sec  79.2 MBytes   659 Mbits/sec
      [  7]   0.00-1.01   sec  75.4 MBytes   627 Mbits/sec
      [  9]   0.00-1.01   sec   106 MBytes   885 Mbits/sec
      [ 11]   0.00-1.01   sec  96.5 MBytes   802 Mbits/sec
      [ 13]   0.00-1.01   sec  86.1 MBytes   716 Mbits/sec
      [ 15]   0.00-1.01   sec   101 MBytes   839 Mbits/sec
      [ 17]   0.00-1.01   sec  51.1 MBytes   425 Mbits/sec
      [ 19]   0.00-1.01   sec  68.2 MBytes   567 Mbits/sec
      [SUM]   0.00-1.01   sec   664 MBytes  5.52 Gbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [  5]   1.01-2.01   sec  66.4 MBytes   557 Mbits/sec
      [  7]   1.01-2.01   sec  76.8 MBytes   644 Mbits/sec
      [  9]   1.01-2.01   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec
      [ 11]   1.01-2.01   sec  70.2 MBytes   589 Mbits/sec
      [ 13]   1.01-2.01   sec  94.0 MBytes   788 Mbits/sec
      [ 15]   1.01-2.01   sec   104 MBytes   873 Mbits/sec
      [ 17]   1.01-2.01   sec  63.1 MBytes   529 Mbits/sec
      [ 19]   1.01-2.01   sec  65.6 MBytes   550 Mbits/sec
      [SUM]   1.01-2.01   sec   663 MBytes  5.56 Gbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [  5]   2.01-3.01   sec  86.8 MBytes   729 Mbits/sec
      [  7]   2.01-3.01   sec  99.9 MBytes   840 Mbits/sec
      [  9]   2.01-3.01   sec   106 MBytes   891 Mbits/sec
      [ 11]   2.01-3.01   sec   110 MBytes   921 Mbits/sec
      [ 13]   2.01-3.01   sec  41.9 MBytes   352 Mbits/sec
      [ 15]   2.01-3.01   sec  78.2 MBytes   658 Mbits/sec
      [ 17]   2.01-3.01   sec  25.2 MBytes   212 Mbits/sec
      [ 19]   2.01-3.01   sec  53.8 MBytes   452 Mbits/sec
      [SUM]   2.01-3.01   sec   601 MBytes  5.05 Gbits/sec
      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      [  5]   3.01-4.00   sec  75.4 MBytes   635 Mbits/sec
      [  7]   3.01-4.00   sec  84.6 MBytes   713 Mbits/sec
      [  9]   3.01-4.00   sec   102 MBytes   860 Mbits/sec
      [ 11]   3.01-4.00   sec   119 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec
      [ 13]   3.01-4.00   sec  86.4 MBytes   727 Mbits/sec
      [ 15]   3.01-4.00   sec  88.1 MBytes   742 Mbits/sec
      [ 17]   3.01-4.00   sec  58.6 MBytes   494 Mbits/sec
      [ 19]   3.01-4.00   sec  54.4 MBytes   458 Mbits/sec
      [SUM]   3.01-4.00   sec   669 MBytes  5.63 Gbits/sec
      

      still 5G

      and the top results

      last pid:  1910;  load averages:    5.12,    2.69,    1.53                                      up 0+00:11:13  03:52:31
      644 threads:   15 running, 599 sleeping, 30 waiting
      CPU 0:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 97.7% system,  0.4% interrupt,  2.0% idle
      CPU 1:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice,  0.8% system, 31.3% interrupt, 67.2% idle
      CPU 2:  1.6% user,  0.0% nice, 28.9% system, 15.2% interrupt, 54.3% idle
      CPU 3:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system, 59.8% interrupt, 39.5% idle
      CPU 4:  1.2% user,  0.0% nice,  6.3% system, 74.6% interrupt, 18.0% idle
      CPU 5:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system, 35.9% interrupt, 63.3% idle
      CPU 6:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice, 17.6% system, 25.4% interrupt, 56.3% idle
      CPU 7:  2.3% user,  0.0% nice,  0.8% system, 44.1% interrupt, 52.7% idle
      Mem: 507M Active, 188M Inact, 2136M Wired, 28G Free
      ARC: 298M Total, 140M MFU, 146M MRU, 917K Anon, 1882K Header, 8181K Other
           228M Compressed, 596M Uncompressed, 2.62:1 Ratio
      Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free
      
        PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU COMMAND
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K CPU0     0   2:43  97.29% [kernel{if_io_tqg_0}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K CPU4     4   1:45  94.90% [intr{swi1: netisr 1}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K CPU3     3   2:15  87.69% [intr{swi1: netisr 7}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      1   8:23  65.80% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      5   8:05  63.96% [idle{idle: cpu5}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU2     2   8:25  58.48% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU6     6   8:36  57.28% [idle{idle: cpu6}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K CPU7     7   8:04  51.95% [idle{idle: cpu7}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     1   0:47  44.46% [intr{swi1: netisr 4}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      3   8:23  36.48% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     1   2:06  27.04% [intr{swi1: netisr 6}]
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K CPU2     2   0:52  26.96% [kernel{if_io_tqg_2}]
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     7   1:02  25.82% [intr{swi1: netisr 5}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      4   8:23  16.71% [idle{idle: cpu4}]
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K -        6   0:53  16.47% [kernel{if_io_tqg_6}]
      71284 www          28    0   142M    39M CPU5     5   0:48  10.20% /usr/local/sbin/haproxy -f /var/etc/haproxy/haproxy.
         12 root        -60    -     0B   384K WAIT     6   1:06   7.50% [intr{swi1: netisr 2}]
          0 root        -60    -     0B  2352K RUN      4   0:58   6.71% [kernel{if_io_tqg_4}]
         11 root        187 ki31     0B   128K RUN      0   7:46   1.87% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
      

      I still suspect something happening on the lag it should not be that hard to get 10g cross-vlan with the right infrastructure and I sure do have one.

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, are you able to test without the lagg?

        Just between the two ixl NICs directly?

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        • LaxarusL Offline
          Laxarus @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 yeah, next step would be that. I need to arrange a time frame for a downtime. Will post the results.

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          • LaxarusL Offline
            Laxarus @stephenw10
            last edited by Laxarus

            @stephenw10 okay, all the tests done but it was a nightmare
            I have done more than disabling lagg
            updated the NIC firmware
            updated the BIOS
            reinstalled the pfsense with uefi boot instead of legacy
            set my nic pci to EFI instead of legacy
            disabled the lagg

            now it is a single SFP28 25G DAC cable

            tuned some system variables
            11a1bc04-0e96-4395-a1d2-fd9536dcf043-image.png

            enabled Hardware TCP Segmentation Offloading

            but still cannot get more than 5g.

            Next step would be to use the actual 10g onboard NIC to see if the problem is with the 25G card.

            any other troubleshooting steps are welcome

            maybe this intel NIC does not play nice with pfsense

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              louis2 @Laxarus
              last edited by

              @Laxarus

              May I suggest to use jumbo frames if you do not use them already !

              I changed every thing within the 10G part of my network including the pfSense lagg related to that to '9000' (netto), which did improve the trough put.

              I did start a discussion about that a couple of month ago on the forum.

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Do you still see one CPU core hitting 100% while the others are 50% idle?

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                • LaxarusL Offline
                  Laxarus @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 I think it is hitting all the cores.

                  iperf3 layer3 test.zip

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                    Averlon @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                    I wouldn't expect to see much advantage to anything over 8 streams when you have 8 CPU cores.

                    The CPU has only 4 real cores, the other 4 are SMT placebos, which don't help in term of packet processing. Most likely they slowing things down. I'd suggest to disable SMT / HT at all in the BIOS and configure the NIC queues down to 4. Also Disable any other unneeded features like SR-IOV. My guess is you won't run any VMs on the machine and pass NICs to these.

                    The Power management configuration of your system affects also the maximum possible throughput. From your first post I can see that your CPU is running on the 2.2GHz base frequency. This is good for constant latency and throughput. Allowing the CPU to scale down the frequency introduces more variance to latency, but it allows to run longer on boost clock (3GHz), which can process more interrupts and make more throughput. Allowing the CPU to scale down, may make things worse. On some systems I had good results in term of throughput, with that on other I don't. It depends on the CPU and NICs.

                    The last thing I would check is how the interrupt distribution of the nic queues is under network load. As far as I remember you can check this with vmstat -i and systat -vmstat 1

                    Do you have net.isr.dispatch set to deferred? If yes and you don't have any PPPoE connection in use, you want to try the default dispatcher (direct)

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                    • w0wW Offline
                      w0w @Laxarus
                      last edited by

                      @Laxarus
                      No errors logged anywhere?

                      netstat -I ixl0 -w1 
                      sysctl dev.ixl.0
                      
                      

                      Try some live linux distribution, like Ubuntu, RHEL or Debian or just install pfSense in proxmox, without any pcie pass through, use card ports as virtual switches, one port per switch and test it again with iperf. If you hit the same limit there, you will need to go deeper.

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                      • LaxarusL Offline
                        Laxarus @louis2
                        last edited by Laxarus

                        @louis2 I tested jumbo frames but did not make any difference and my network have too different speeds so I have to stay at MTU 1500.

                        @Averlon said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                        The CPU has only 4 real cores, the other 4 are SMT placebos, which don't help in term of packet processing. Most likely they slowing things down. I'd suggest to disable SMT / HT at all in the BIOS and configure the NIC queues down to 4. Also Disable any other unneeded features like SR-IOV. My guess is you won't run any VMs on the machine and pass NICs to these.

                        I tried toggling the SR-IOV, did not see any difference.
                        Enabled "Extended APIC" and "Above 4G Decoding" is enabled by default.
                        I did not try disabling SMT/HT or playing with power settings. Currently, it is set to "Energy Efficient" profile, so no custom profiles yet.

                        @Averlon said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                        The last thing I would check is how the interrupt distribution of the nic queues is under network load. As far as I remember you can check this with vmstat -i and systat -vmstat 1

                        It seems evenly distributed to me. (this was during a running iperf3 test)

                        2 users    Load  1.99  2.31  1.79                  Oct 25 22:47:13
                           Mem usage:   8%Phy  5%Kmem                           VN PAGER   SWAP PAGER
                        Mem:      REAL           VIRTUAL                        in   out     in   out
                               Tot   Share     Tot    Share     Free   count          26
                        Act   685M  62444K   4613G   93312K   28840M   pages          39
                        All   701M  78508K   4614G     366M                       ioflt  Interrupts
                        Proc:                                                3847 cow   53387 total
                          r   p   d    s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt   17K zfod   1129 cpu0:timer
                                     320      132K  21K  14K  43K  23K  21K       ozfod  1133 cpu1:timer
                                                                                 %ozfod  1131 cpu2:timer
                        10.1%Sys  39.5%Intr  0.9%User  2.5%Nice 47.0%Idle         daefr  1129 cpu3:timer
                        |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |   19K prcfr  1132 cpu4:timer
                        =====++++++++++++++++++++-                            26K totfr  1129 cpu5:timer
                                                                   dtbuf          react  1131 cpu6:timer
                        Namei     Name-cache   Dir-cache    615219 maxvn          pdwak  1134 cpu7:timer
                           Calls    hits   %    hits   %      4989 numvn       90 pdpgs    23 xhci0 65
                            4569    4569 100                  3402 frevn       33 intrn       ixl0:aq 67
                                                                            1829M wire   7733 ixl0:rxq0
                        Disks  nda0 pass0 pass1 pass2                        220M act    5309 ixl0:rxq1
                        KB/t   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00                        551M inact    18 ixl0:rxq2
                        tps       0     0     0     0                           0 laund  4948 ixl0:rxq3
                        MB/s   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00                         28G free   7413 ixl0:rxq4
                        %busy     0     0     0     0                           0 buf    7284 ixl0:rxq5
                                                                                         4568 ixl0:rxq6
                                                                                         6949 ixl0:rxq7
                                                                                              nvme0:admi
                                                                                              nvme0:io0
                                                                                              nvme0:io1
                                                                                              nvme0:io2
                                                                                              nvme0:io3
                        

                        @Averlon said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                        Do you have net.isr.dispatch set to deferred? If yes and you don't have any PPPoE connection in use, you want to try the default dispatcher (direct)

                        it is set as direct by default, I did not touch that. My WAN is pppoe but I dont test WAN connections anyway.

                        @w0w said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                        No errors logged anywhere?

                        netstat -I ixl0 -w1
                        sysctl dev.ixl.0

                        no errors at all.

                        dev.ixl.0.mac.xoff_recvd: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.xoff_txd: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.xon_recvd: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.xon_txd: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_big: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_1024_1522: 375614975
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_512_1023: 16690370
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_256_511: 13612270
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_128_255: 4052150
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_65_127: 152914345
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.tx_frames_64: 500265
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.checksum_errors: 3
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_jabber: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_oversized: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_fragmented: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_undersize: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_big: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_1024_1522: 377904852
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_512_1023: 16329494
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_256_511: 14111348
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_128_255: 3145926
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_65_127: 138214041
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_frames_64: 184281
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_length_errors: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.remote_faults: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.local_faults: 2
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.illegal_bytes: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.crc_errors: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.bcast_pkts_txd: 46661
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.mcast_pkts_txd: 644978
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.ucast_pkts_txd: 562692736
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.good_octets_txd: 593759862696
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.rx_discards: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.bcast_pkts_rcvd: 75168
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.mcast_pkts_rcvd: 280282
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.ucast_pkts_rcvd: 549534492
                        dev.ixl.0.mac.good_octets_rcvd: 596407236239
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq07.itr: 122
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq07.bytes: 41143051364
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq07.packets: 47973936
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq07.mss_too_small: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq07.tso: 28225
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq06.itr: 122
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq06.bytes: 66474474763
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq06.packets: 57167819
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq06.mss_too_small: 0
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq06.tso: 101247
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq05.itr: 122
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq05.bytes: 87535602506
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq05.packets: 73720437
                        dev.ixl.0.pf.txq05.mss_too_small: 0
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                        is it possible that there are too many vlans on the network and too many rules/packets to process with my cpu during high speed transfer spikes?
                        Currently 13 vlans + LAN on the same cable with various rules.

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                          w0w @Laxarus
                          last edited by w0w

                          @Laxarus said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                          Currently 13 vlans + LAN on the same cable with various rules.

                          It doesn't sound like serious load.

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                            pwood999
                            last edited by pwood999

                            What's the traffic like on the other VLAN's, etc. If it's low it shouldn't have much impact ?

                            What PfSense Rules are on the VLAN's that have the iperf3 client & server ?

                            Also, what managed switch are you using on the PfSense LAN & VLAN side ?

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                              Another thought. Your tests are using iperf3 TCP, so not only are the flows are up & down the same 25G connection, there's also the reverse SYN & ACK going over the same pipe as your traffic.

                              Definitely try UDP but you might need to specify UDP on the server as well as client side.

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                                I’d test the firewall hardware by installing Proxmox on it and running pfSense with the NICs as virtual devices. Even virtualized, I tested my Intel X710-T4L on the pfSense LAN with an N100 CPU and the card in an x4 PCIe slot. Even in that setup, iperf reaches 6–7 Gbps.

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                                  @Averlon said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                  From your first post I can see that your CPU is running on the 2.2GHz base frequency. This is good for constant latency and throughput. Allowing the CPU to scale down the frequency introduces more variance to latency, but it allows to run longer on boost clock (3GHz), which can process more interrupts and make more throughput.

                                  The max value shown there of 2201 means that Turbo is enabled. It never actually shows the turbo speed on a speed-step enabled CPU. But it could be hitting some thermal/power limit perhaps I agree. Though I'd expect to see some spikes above the 5Gbps if that was the case. At least some variation between repeated tests.

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                                    @stephenw10 It's not about Turbo is enabled or not, it's about power management in general, since it is one of many factors affecting throughput of the platform and it wasn't considered yet. Too aggressive power saving settings can also lead to performance degradations.

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                                      Thank you all for suggestions

                                      @pwood999 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      What's the traffic like on the other VLAN's, etc. If it's low it shouldn't have much impact ?

                                      there is not much file transfer traffic on L3. Generally chatter.

                                      @pwood999 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      What PfSense Rules are on the VLAN's that have the iperf3 client & server ?

                                      For testing purposes, I allowed all traffic.

                                      @pwood999 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      Also, what managed switch are you using on the PfSense LAN & VLAN side ?

                                      All unifi switches, but I have no problem getting 10G on L2 so I have ruled out the switches as the problem.

                                      @w0w said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      I’d test the firewall hardware by installing Proxmox on it and running pfSense with the NICs as virtual devices. Even virtualized, I tested my Intel X710-T4L on the pfSense LAN with an N100 CPU and the card in an x4 PCIe slot. Even in that setup, iperf reaches 6–7 Gbps.

                                      I cannot afford testing this hardware in a virtual environment. This is currently in production and there is no backup for it.

                                      @pwood999 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      Definitely try UDP but you might need to specify UDP on the server as well as client side.

                                      Good point. Testing with UDP I got very interesting results.

                                      root@PROXMOX1:~# iperf3 -c 192.168.40.40 -u -b 9.5G -t 10 -l 1472 --get-server-output -P 4
                                      warning: UDP block size 1472 exceeds TCP MSS 1448, may result in fragmentation / drops
                                      Connecting to host 192.168.40.40, port 5201
                                      [  5] local 192.168.55.21 port 53975 connected to 192.168.40.40 port 5201
                                      [  7] local 192.168.55.21 port 36922 connected to 192.168.40.40 port 5201
                                      [  9] local 192.168.55.21 port 57106 connected to 192.168.40.40 port 5201
                                      [ 11] local 192.168.55.21 port 43050 connected to 192.168.40.40 port 5201
                                      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Total Datagrams
                                      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203373
                                      [  7]   0.00-1.00   sec   286 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203512
                                      [  9]   0.00-1.00   sec   286 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203515
                                      [ 11]   0.00-1.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203332
                                      [SUM]   0.00-1.00   sec  1.12 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  813732
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203224
                                      [  7]   1.00-2.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203205
                                      [  9]   1.00-2.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203122
                                      [ 11]   1.00-2.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203127
                                      [SUM]   1.00-2.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812678
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203131
                                      [  7]   2.00-3.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203188
                                      [  9]   2.00-3.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203161
                                      [ 11]   2.00-3.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203165
                                      [SUM]   2.00-3.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812645
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203180
                                      [  7]   3.00-4.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203170
                                      [  9]   3.00-4.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203211
                                      [ 11]   3.00-4.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203119
                                      [SUM]   3.00-4.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812680
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203136
                                      [  7]   4.00-5.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203126
                                      [  9]   4.00-5.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203134
                                      [ 11]   4.00-5.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203145
                                      [SUM]   4.00-5.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812541
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203125
                                      [  7]   5.00-6.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203171
                                      [  9]   5.00-6.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203162
                                      [ 11]   5.00-6.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203157
                                      [SUM]   5.00-6.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812615
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203178
                                      [  7]   6.00-7.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203207
                                      [  9]   6.00-7.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203174
                                      [ 11]   6.00-7.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203166
                                      [SUM]   6.00-7.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812725
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203199
                                      [  7]   7.00-8.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203171
                                      [  9]   7.00-8.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203138
                                      [ 11]   7.00-8.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203196
                                      [SUM]   7.00-8.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812704
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203085
                                      [  7]   8.00-9.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203155
                                      [  9]   8.00-9.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203137
                                      [ 11]   8.00-9.00   sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203124
                                      [SUM]   8.00-9.00   sec  1.11 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  812501
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203169
                                      [  7]   9.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203196
                                      [  9]   9.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203177
                                      [ 11]   9.00-10.00  sec   285 MBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  203195
                                      [SUM]   9.00-10.00  sec  1.11 GBytes  9.56 Gbits/sec  812737
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
                                      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.79 GBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  0.000 ms  0/2031800 (0%)  sender
                                      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.18 GBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  1170176/2030971 (58%)  receiver
                                      [  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.79 GBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  0.000 ms  0/2032101 (0%)  sender
                                      [  7]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.19 GBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.018 ms  1163621/2031264 (57%)  receiver
                                      [  9]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.79 GBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  0.000 ms  0/2031931 (0%)  sender
                                      [  9]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.17 GBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  1175570/2031116 (58%)  receiver
                                      [ 11]   0.00-10.00  sec  2.79 GBytes  2.39 Gbits/sec  0.000 ms  0/2031726 (0%)  sender
                                      [ 11]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.15 GBytes   991 Mbits/sec  0.011 ms  1189040/2030907 (59%)  receiver
                                      [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  11.1 GBytes  9.57 Gbits/sec  0.000 ms  0/8127558 (0%)  sender
                                      [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  4.70 GBytes  4.03 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  4698407/8124258 (58%)  receiver
                                      
                                      Server output:
                                      -----------------------------------------------------------
                                      Server listening on 5201 (test #3)
                                      -----------------------------------------------------------
                                      Accepted connection from 192.168.55.21, port 33208
                                      [  5] local 192.168.40.40 port 5201 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 53975
                                      [  6] local 192.168.40.40 port 5201 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 36922
                                      [  9] local 192.168.40.40 port 5201 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 57106
                                      [ 11] local 192.168.40.40 port 5201 connected to 192.168.55.21 port 43050
                                      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
                                      [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   120 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.008 ms  116792/202427 (58%)
                                      [  6]   0.00-1.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  115872/202564 (57%)
                                      [  9]   0.00-1.00   sec   118 MBytes   985 Mbits/sec  0.009 ms  118800/202535 (59%)
                                      [ 11]   0.00-1.00   sec   115 MBytes   963 Mbits/sec  0.020 ms  120523/202367 (60%)
                                      [SUM]   0.00-1.00   sec   474 MBytes  3.98 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  471987/809893 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  116048/203048 (57%)
                                      [  6]   1.00-2.00   sec   120 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  117649/203048 (58%)
                                      [  9]   1.00-2.00   sec   115 MBytes   967 Mbits/sec  0.013 ms  120927/203008 (60%)
                                      [ 11]   1.00-2.00   sec   114 MBytes   959 Mbits/sec  0.019 ms  121594/202996 (60%)
                                      [SUM]   1.00-2.00   sec   472 MBytes  3.96 Gbits/sec  0.013 ms  476218/812100 (59%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.014 ms  116649/203371 (57%)
                                      [  6]   2.00-3.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  115793/203379 (57%)
                                      [  9]   2.00-3.00   sec   121 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  117380/203379 (58%)
                                      [ 11]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   939 Mbits/sec  0.011 ms  123560/203353 (61%)
                                      [SUM]   2.00-3.00   sec   477 MBytes  4.00 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  473382/813482 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.013 ms  115535/203161 (57%)
                                      [  6]   3.00-4.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  115716/203181 (57%)
                                      [  9]   3.00-4.00   sec   119 MBytes   997 Mbits/sec  0.012 ms  118496/203183 (58%)
                                      [ 11]   3.00-4.00   sec   117 MBytes   982 Mbits/sec  0.013 ms  119764/203121 (59%)
                                      [SUM]   3.00-4.00   sec   482 MBytes  4.04 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  469511/812646 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.014 ms  116366/203129 (57%)
                                      [  6]   4.00-5.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.022 ms  115463/203140 (57%)
                                      [  9]   4.00-5.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.017 ms  115425/203123 (57%)
                                      [ 11]   4.00-5.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.013 ms  116144/203140 (57%)
                                      [SUM]   4.00-5.00   sec   490 MBytes  4.11 Gbits/sec  0.016 ms  463398/812532 (57%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   120 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.022 ms  117455/203241 (58%)
                                      [  6]   5.00-6.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.022 ms  115785/203257 (57%)
                                      [  9]   5.00-6.00   sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.023 ms  115539/203263 (57%)
                                      [ 11]   5.00-6.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.023 ms  116512/203255 (57%)
                                      [SUM]   5.00-6.00   sec   488 MBytes  4.09 Gbits/sec  0.023 ms  465291/813016 (57%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   116 MBytes   971 Mbits/sec  0.015 ms  120389/202814 (59%)
                                      [  6]   6.00-7.00   sec   119 MBytes  1.00 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  117896/202957 (58%)
                                      [  9]   6.00-7.00   sec   121 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.023 ms  116693/202940 (58%)
                                      [ 11]   6.00-7.00   sec   118 MBytes   988 Mbits/sec  0.011 ms  119068/202957 (59%)
                                      [SUM]   6.00-7.00   sec   474 MBytes  3.98 Gbits/sec  0.015 ms  474046/811668 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   119 MBytes   998 Mbits/sec  0.009 ms  118459/203188 (58%)
                                      [  6]   7.00-8.00   sec   121 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.013 ms  117195/203087 (58%)
                                      [  9]   7.00-8.00   sec   117 MBytes   981 Mbits/sec  0.011 ms  119700/203046 (59%)
                                      [ 11]   7.00-8.00   sec   119 MBytes   996 Mbits/sec  0.012 ms  118481/203087 (58%)
                                      [SUM]   7.00-8.00   sec   475 MBytes  3.99 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  473835/812408 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.020 ms  116771/203418 (57%)
                                      [  6]   8.00-9.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.014 ms  116689/203445 (57%)
                                      [  9]   8.00-9.00   sec   122 MBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.013 ms  116864/203438 (57%)
                                      [ 11]   8.00-9.00   sec   120 MBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.023 ms  117691/203420 (58%)
                                      [SUM]   8.00-9.00   sec   485 MBytes  4.07 Gbits/sec  0.017 ms  468015/813721 (58%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.016 ms  115712/203031 (57%)
                                      [  6]   9.00-10.00  sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.018 ms  115563/203054 (57%)
                                      [  9]   9.00-10.00  sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  115746/203054 (57%)
                                      [ 11]   9.00-10.00  sec   123 MBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.018 ms  115703/203066 (57%)
                                      [SUM]   9.00-10.00  sec   491 MBytes  4.12 Gbits/sec  0.016 ms  462724/812205 (57%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [  5]  10.00-10.00  sec   206 KBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  0/143 (0%)
                                      [  6]  10.00-10.00  sec   218 KBytes  1.08 Gbits/sec  0.018 ms  0/152 (0%)
                                      [  9]  10.00-10.00  sec   211 KBytes  1.05 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  0/147 (0%)
                                      [ 11]  10.00-10.00  sec   208 KBytes  1.03 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  0/145 (0%)
                                      [SUM]  10.00-10.00  sec   844 KBytes  4.19 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  0/587 (0%)
                                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                      [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
                                      [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.18 GBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.011 ms  1170176/2030971 (58%)  receiver
                                      [  6]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.19 GBytes  1.02 Gbits/sec  0.018 ms  1163621/2031264 (57%)  receiver
                                      [  9]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.17 GBytes  1.01 Gbits/sec  0.010 ms  1175570/2031116 (58%)  receiver
                                      [ 11]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.15 GBytes   991 Mbits/sec  0.011 ms  1189040/2030907 (59%)  receiver
                                      [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  4.70 GBytes  4.03 Gbits/sec  0.012 ms  4698407/8124258 (58%)  receiver
                                      
                                      
                                      iperf Done.
                                      

                                      so the client can blast 10g with UDP but the server only receives about 4G. There is a massive loss.

                                      I looked more closely to my CPU thinking maybe it was not going Turbo and I was right.
                                      pfSense is reporting Current: 2200 MHz, Max: 2201 MHz. However, I still suspect this is the reason 2.2GHz fixed CPU should be capable of 10g anyway.

                                      However, this CPU should be able to go up to 3.00 GHz in any case.

                                      https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/136429/intel-xeon-d2123it-processor-8-25m-cache-2-20-ghz/specifications.html

                                      Checking in with sysctl

                                      sysctl dev.cpu | grep freq
                                      dev.cpu.7.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.7.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.6.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.6.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.5.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.5.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.4.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.4.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.3.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.3.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.2.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.2.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.1.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.1.freq: 2200
                                      dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2201/60000 2200/60000 2100/56352 2000/52778 1900/49855 1800/46415 1700/43611 1600/40303 1500/37618 1400/34440 1300/31871 1200/28822 1100/26367 1000/23442
                                      dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200
                                      

                                      and after putting some heavy load on CPU to test it stayed stuck at 2200.

                                      sysctl dev.cpu | grep freq was also reporting the same during the test.

                                      Then I went into BIOS to play with power settings which is a foreign territory to me.

                                      But the power technology was set to "Energy Efficient" which did not let me modify anything at all. I changed this to Custom
                                      Then for tuning I choose OS controls EPB but pfsense was still reporting the CPU at 2200. (PowerD enabled with HiAdpt)
                                      I am not sure what I did wrong here, I assumed pfSense can manage P states of CPU. But it did not work and I had to enable BIOS controls EPB with Maximum Performance
                                      Anyway, after a lot of rebooting and tinkering I got to see 2693 on my CPU. (This was the highest I could get)
                                      PowerD disabled, Speed Shift enabled at 10 with core level control.

                                      As a final test, I run iperf3 again. I saw marginal improvements up to 6g with p4 but that is it. Nowhere near where it should be.

                                      My current BIOS settings are:
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                                      @stephenw10 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                      The max value shown there of 2201 means that Turbo is enabled. It never actually shows the turbo speed on a speed-step enabled CPU. But it could be hitting some thermal/power limit perhaps I agree. Though I'd expect to see some spikes above the 5Gbps if that was the case. At least some variation between repeated tests.

                                      CPU is not thermal throttling, it is generally at 50C even with all the testing.

                                      I am also not sure what are the suitable BIOS settings for the pfsense since I am having hard time. Is there anyone with the same CPU?

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                                        You will never see the reported CPU frequency show the 3.0GHz turbo value. pfSense can only ever see 2201 which means the full speed with turbo.

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                                          You should probably separate the problem into stages rather the just assume is a CPU issue.

                                          Ideally you need to build a Lab setup rather than use a production system. That way you have control over any background activities.

                                          Test with UDP between each server & PfSense iperf directly. Try running it with PfSense as the server, and then the other way round. That should prove you can get full speed to & from each server to PF in all modes & prove your Microtik VLAN's plus PF Firewall rules.

                                          If the above works, then it must be the PF Routing engine where the packets are being dropped.

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                                            @pwood999 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                                            You should probably separate the problem into stages rather the just assume is a CPU issue.

                                            Can you name the stages you have in mind to divide the problem into?
                                            CPU performance is crucial on a platform where packet forwarding is performed in software. Testing with UDP is a non-sense, cause it has no flow control and you have to calculate the possible throughput by accounting the packet lost. Running pfSense as iPerf server coast also CPU time to process packets received and does not reflect the possible throughput of the platform. Testing between two endpoints connected to Pfsense is the right way to do. It's why it is called throughput ...
                                            Devices in between may affect possible throughput, especially when packet lost occurs there for whatever reason and TCP congestion algorithms kicks in. So it's good to check the interface counter in the path and ensure there are no drops on interfaces in the path for whatever reason.

                                            My suggestion is to disable HT / SMT, scale queues down to 4 and there might be another improvement. The Intel SpeedShift may work better on packed level rather than core level.

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