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    Syslog service in pfSense v2.8.1 often stop itself

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    • stephenw10S Offline
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      No sorry that was at the previous poster. The workaround rule won't work for traffic to syslog-ng locally. 😕

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      • provelsP Offline
        provels
        last edited by

        Stopped again this AM at 00:15, random interval. Maybe something to do with daily log rotation, GZipping the log, dunno. Just info, not an issue for me anyway.

        6 Matched General Log Entries. (Maximum 500)
        Oct 23 00:15:02	php-cgi	95349	notify_monitor.php: Message sent to provels
        Oct 23 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
        Oct 14 00:15:03	php-cgi	10330	notify_monitor.php: Message sent to provels
        Oct 14 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
        Oct 3 00:15:03	php-cgi	55524	notify_monitor.php: Message sent to provels
        Oct 3 00:15:02	syslogd		kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
        

        The top of today's default.log.

        Oct 23 00:00:00 fw syslog-ng[13248]: Configuration reload request received, reloading configuration;
        Oct 23 00:00:00 fw syslog-ng[13248]: Configuration reload finished;
        Oct 23 00:10:00 fw syslog-ng[13248]: Log statistics; processed='destination(_DEFAULT)=183', dropped='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(internal_source)=183', queued='global(internal_source)=0', processed='global(msg_clones)=0', processed='source(_DEFAULT)=183', processed='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=183', processed='global(sdata_updates)=0', stamp='src.internal(_DEFAULT#0)=1761195600', queued='global(scratch_buffers_count)=0', processed='global(payload_reallocs)=178', processed='center(queued)=183', processed='center(received)=183', queued='global(scratch_buffers_bytes)=0'
        Oct 23 00:15:02 localhost syslogd: restart
        Oct 23 00:15:02 localhost syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
        Oct 23 00:15:02 localhost php-cgi[95349]: notify_monitor.php: Message sent to provels
        

        Peder

        MAIN - pfSense+ 25.07.1-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
        BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

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        • A Offline
          aldomoro
          last edited by

          Hi

          We use Graylog as remote syslog. If server with Graylog has outage, e.g. is restarted due to updates, syslogd is stopped in pfSense 2.8.1. We did not have this issue in v2.8.0.

          Aldomoro

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yes, that's the bug discussed here. The workaround rules will prevent it. https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16362#note-5

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            • provelsP Offline
              provels @aldomoro
              last edited by

              @aldomoro Possibly the best use of Service Watchdog. Maybe the only one! :)

              Peder

              MAIN - pfSense+ 25.07.1-RELEASE - Adlink MXE-5401, i7, 16 GB RAM, 64 GB SSD. 500 GB HDD for SyslogNG
              BACKUP - pfSense+ 23.01-RELEASE - Hyper-V Virtual Machine, Gen 1, 2 v-CPUs, 3 GB RAM, 8GB VHDX (Dynamic)

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              • G Offline
                geovaneg
                last edited by geovaneg

                Hi,

                Same problem here:

                "Nov 2 22:00:02 pfsense syslogd: sendto: Connection refused" (system.log)

                PfSense CE 2.8.1, remote logging enabled.

                Anothers instances 2.8 running OK.

                Workaround: whatchdog

                Thanks.

                Geovane

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                  tyros
                  last edited by

                  Same problem here on 2.8.1

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Applying the workaround firewall rules will prevent it seeing the refusals so will not stop.

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                    • G Offline
                      geovaneg
                      last edited by

                      Hi,

                      Apparently the rule isn't working because the traffic counters aren't incrementing. There's a "let out anything IPv4 from firewall host itself" rule with higher precedence that seems to be capturing UDP traffic to the remote syslog server, even though the new rule is of the "floating" type.

                      @28 pass out inet all flags S/SA keep state (if-bound) allow-opts label "let out anything IPv4 from firewall host itself" ridentifier 1000003613
                      @46 pass quick inet proto udp from (self:3) to 10.0.1.19 no state label "USER_RULE: rule to avoid syslog stop bug" label "id:1762800608" ridentifier 1762800608
                      
                      

                      Geovane

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                        mcury Rebel Alliance @geovaneg
                        last edited by

                        @geovaneg said in Syslog service in pfSense v2.8.1 often stop itself:

                        Apparently the rule isn't working because the traffic counters aren't incrementing.

                        Yeap, they should increment.

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                        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                          geovaneg
                          last edited by

                          This is a VPN server located in the DMZ... It has no LAN interface, only a WAN and IPSEC interface, and the counters are not incrementing despite continuous traffic to the log server.

                          be345213-0d0e-407e-b226-9fdece1e5073-image.png

                          I might be forgetting something obvious, but I reviewed the settings and tested it more than twice.

                          Geovane

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                            geovaneg
                            last edited by

                            In any case, the watchdog isn't the perfect solution, but it did the job.

                            thanks

                            Geovane

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Looks like you might have the source port set to 514 instead of the destination.

                              In your first screenshot it's not shown as an OUT rule also but it looks like you corrected that.

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                                taz3146
                                last edited by

                                Same ongoing issue, remote syslog enabled, it seems rather random, but mostly when the logging machine is down, which is a linux vm on proxmox host.

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                                  Bria1972 @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @slu said in Syslog service in pfSense v2.8.1 often stop itself:

                                  @jrey years ago there was a p1 release:
                                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/2-3-5-p1.html

                                  Thanks for the source

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