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    trout
    last edited by Jun 19, 2006, 9:55 PM

    I want to use the Opt Interface to connect my ethernet world and my token ring world.

    I searched the forum and read the Hardware Compability List and found that only token ring cards supported by OpenBSD where … Olicom....

    I hunted down a few in the junk pile, but when I put them in and boot on the Live CD .... they do not show up !

    Can anyone provide some info .....

    Thanks.

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      sullrich
      last edited by Jun 19, 2006, 9:57 PM

      I have 0 expsoure to token ring.  Sorry to say but this is not something that will work (most likely).

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        hoba
        last edited by Jun 19, 2006, 10:53 PM

        omg, why do you want to still run token ring in 2006?

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          trout
          last edited by Jun 20, 2006, 2:18 PM

          Well we have a few as400 that still have some token ring.

          And a few PCs that have TR cards.

          Why change if not broken  :) …. we changing them as we upgrade them .... just taking slow approach

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            trout
            last edited by Jun 20, 2006, 2:19 PM

            Why is that … according to BSD docs the token cards are handled just like eth ones just a difference driver.

            And if BSD has a driver why couldn't pfsense?

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              sullrich
              last edited by Jun 20, 2006, 5:39 PM

              @trout:

              Why is that … according to BSD docs the token cards are handled just like eth ones just a difference driver.

              And if BSD has a driver why couldn't pfsense?

              I said that I have 0 exposure to it.  Give it a try, I am not sure if it works or not.

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                trout
                last edited by Jun 20, 2006, 7:07 PM

                It does not …  :(

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                  billm
                  last edited by Jun 21, 2006, 4:26 AM

                  FWIW, it's probably because we don't enable the oltr(4) driver:
                  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=oltr&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE
                  in our kernel.  I don't see much use for it in general in our tree though - it's outdated hardware and it's not worth putting a driver that maybe one person on this planet might use in the tree.  I'd suggest pulling down the dev iso and rolling your own - the build process is relatively simple and all you need to do is add the driver to the kernel config.  Or get a token ring -> ethernet translational bridge from Olicom (er eBay - hell I can probably dig a few out of the scrap pile at work sigh).

                  –Bill

                  pfSense core developer
                  blog - http://www.ucsecurity.com/
                  twitter - billmarquette

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                    trout
                    last edited by Jun 21, 2006, 6:38 PM

                    @billm:

                    I'd suggest pulling down the dev iso and rolling your own - the build process is relatively simple and all you need to do is add the driver to the kernel config.  Or get a token ring -> ethernet translational bridge from Olicom (er eBay - hell I can probably dig a few out of the scrap pile at work sigh).

                    –Bill

                    Can you give me the brief howto on that …
                      ... do you mean down load the dev tar or just modify an install of rc1

                    Might just take you up on the bridge offer.

                    Thanks

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                      sullrich
                      last edited by Jun 21, 2006, 6:50 PM

                      1. Download the developer ISO
                      2. Load the developer iso and then login to console
                      3. Wait for the developer bootstrap process to finish
                      3. Edit /home/pfsense/tools/builder_scripts/conf/pfSense.6 and add the device
                      5. cd /home/pfsense/tools/builder_scripts/
                      6. ./build_iso.sh

                      Wait for it to finish and then you will see an ISO (it will tell you the location).

                      Please keep in mind this is unsupported territory you are in.

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                        Numbski
                        last edited by Jun 22, 2006, 4:56 PM

                        But it's gloriously FUN unsupported territory. :D

                        Really.  This will get your foot into the burgening token-ring marketplace.  It's about to boom I tell ya.  ;D

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                          trout
                          last edited by Jun 23, 2006, 7:20 PM

                          Yeah legacy is a drag.  Beats mass conversion ( $$$ and headache ) Sure Cobol programmers feel the same way.  It nice to be able to make the transition tranparent.

                          Don't like it either, but it sure goes a long way when you can say "no problem can do that" to the people with the money.

                          With a poor attitude open source can leave a bad taste in Power that be.  Open source is about just making it work, and work well.  With the added bonus of not spending an arm and a leg.

                          On to real stuff …..

                          the script that graps the CVS file for pfSense inside of build_iso.sh just fails really not much information

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                            sullrich
                            last edited by Jun 23, 2006, 7:23 PM

                            The Freesbie server is currently offline.  This data is needed to build a CD.

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                              trout
                              last edited by Jun 23, 2006, 7:45 PM

                              Ok, thanks

                              .. ETA … is there big problem or just routine up when u done?

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                                sullrich
                                last edited by Jun 23, 2006, 8:09 PM

                                Not sure what the problem is.  I don't admin their server.

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                                  trout
                                  last edited by Jun 26, 2006, 8:06 PM

                                  @sullrich:

                                  1. Download the developer ISO
                                  2. Load the developer iso and then login to console
                                  3. Wait for the developer bootstrap process to finish
                                  3. Edit /home/pfsense/tools/builder_scripts/conf/pfSense.6 and add the device
                                  5. cd /home/pfsense/tools/builder_scripts/
                                  6. ./build_iso.sh

                                  Wait for it to finish and then you will see an ISO (it will tell you the location).

                                  Please keep in mind this is unsupported territory you are in.

                                  I know this is unsupported but could I get a little assistance so I can learn how this works …

                                  I did as above, but update_cvs_depot function from inside build_iso.sh
                                  complained
                                  "move away pfSense/RELENG_1; it is in the way.
                                  so I did some digging
                                  added export SKIP_CHECKOUT=yes
                                  and    export SKIP_RSYNC=yes
                                  to my pfsense_local.sh

                                  but it still tries to get CVS files

                                  ... so I commented out the call  ( cvs is not important to me this point )

                                  ... so now when freebsd build is running I notice that it complained about not having
                                  bsdinstaller
                                  cpdup
                                  lua
                                  lighttpd

                                  how do you get the these packages into the build process ????

                                  thanks .......... ahead of time

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                                    Numbski
                                    last edited by Jul 1, 2006, 1:18 AM

                                    Skip checkout and skip rsync?

                                    You should probably allow one of those to run.  I'd leave the checkout in there and set rsh=ssh.

                                    That's the FreeBSD admin in me talking and not a pfSense dev, so YMMV. :)

                                    Side note, I have a Token Ring Jetdirect card for a color laserjet sitting here that mistakenly shipped with my printer.  Have a use for it? :D

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