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    • S
      sullrich
      last edited by

      @aldo:

      one last thing you have an extra white space on the udp stream now.
      i did them both in clean cases before and all worked well

      for the inetd i added info the the tcp case and the upd case as i did in the localhost allow rule your
      solution was definatly neater but there is a whitespace issue

      Not sure what you mean.  Please show me either the generated rules from rules.debug or the netcat entries from inetd.conf

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        aldo
        last edited by

        19000 stream udp nowait/0 nobody /usr/bin/nc nc  -u -w 20 192.168.200.200 161
        19002 stream tcp nowait/0 nobody /usr/bin/nc nc -w 20 192.168.200.200 8000

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          sullrich
          last edited by

          Yeah it doesn't look "good" but it should work..

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            aldo
            last edited by

            NAT Reflection rules

            pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19000 keep state
            label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"
            pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19001 keep state
            label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

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              aldo
              last edited by

              /* $Id: filter.inc,v 1.575.2.248 2006/09/09 22:53:48 sullrich Exp $ */

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                aldo
                last edited by

                this definatly works correctly here

                switch($rule['protocol']) {
                                                                                        case "tcp/udp":
                                                                                                $protocol = "{ tcp udp }";
                                                                                                $ipfrules .= "pass in quick on ${$ifname_real} inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port {$starting_localhost_port} keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"\n";
                                                                                                $ipfrules .= "pass in quick on ${$ifname_real} inet proto udp from any to $loopback port {$starting_localhost_port} keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"\n";
                                                                                                break;
                                                                                        case "tcp":
                                                                                                $protocol = $rule['protocol'];
                                                                                                $ipfrules .= "pass in quick on ${$ifname_real} inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port {$starting_localhost_port} keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"\n";
                                                                                                break;
                                                                                        case "udp":
                                                                                                $protocol = $rule['protocol'];
                                                                                                $ipfrules .= "pass in quick on ${$ifname_real} inet proto udp from any to $loopback port {$starting_localhost_port} keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"\n";
                                                                                                break;
                                                                                        default:
                                                                                                break;
                                                                                }

                NAT Reflection rules

                pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19000 keep state
                label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"
                pass in quick on $lan inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port 19001 keep state
                label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

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                  sullrich
                  last edited by

                  Your not making any sense.  Are you saying what is commited does not work?  There is no difference, the udp case gets hit for tcp OR udp since there is no break.

                  Watch this example program:

                  $protocol = "tcp";

                  switch($protocol) {
                          case "tcp":
                          case "udp":
                                  echo "case met";

                  }

                  ?>

                  php -f test.php

                  case met#

                  As you can see since there is no break, the case "udp" gets processed for either.

                  Now consider this:

                  $protocol = "udp";

                  switch($protocol) {
                          case "tcp":
                          case "udp":
                                  echo "case met";

                  }

                  ?>

                  php -f test.php

                  case met#

                  As you can see you do not need to do it your way.

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                    aldo
                    last edited by

                    i agree but that was the result

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                      sullrich
                      last edited by

                      Rerun the commands that I mentioned earlier.  I have updated the file to cover the tcp case either way.

                      I know for a fact that if other devs catch wind of this they are not going to like it.  I would have to agree with them, this should not be necessary.

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                        aldo
                        last edited by

                        i see the issue scott

                        make the udp case empty above the tcp case
                        and fill in the tcp case but then look at your working cases in the rdr sections there is the issue
                        i reran the commands but there is an error in the filter.inc on 389 or thereabouts now as well i fixed an if that was missing an I

                        role it back scott i will work on it tomorrow i understand what youa re trying to achieve now and how you should do it using your method.
                        i will have better resourses tomorrow i am at home at moment and is 1am

                        i will send you the diffs tomorrow for your review

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                          aldo
                          last edited by

                          ok i think you will be happy with the localhost rules but not so pleased with the nc inetd bits
                          have a look and let me know

                          it works perfectly and that was my goal

                          filter.inc.txt

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                            sullrich
                            last edited by

                            Looks like you started with a dated filter.inc.

                            Can you:

                            #1 update your filter.inc and make the changes again
                            #2 send a diff -u patch?  I need to also make these changes in -HEAD which this will assist with

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                              aldo
                              last edited by

                              will do it tomorrow for you got it working on a 7-9-06 box.

                              so will diff for you when i can

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                                sullrich
                                last edited by

                                You need to include the most latest and greatest filter.inc.

                                http://pfsense.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/pfSense/etc/inc/filter.inc?only_with_tag=RELENG_1

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                                  aldo
                                  last edited by

                                  synced my dev build just now and rebuilt diff attached

                                  diff2-filter.inc.txt

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                                    sullrich
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks, I've commited a slightly different version.

                                    $rule['protocol'] should be used instead of the hard coded udp value since that case can trip for tcp or udp.

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                                      aldo
                                      last edited by

                                      ok will test this case for you
                                      thanks for wasting all that time scott i know what to do next time

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                                        aldo
                                        last edited by

                                        THE BAD NEWS ON REFLECTION

                                        ##########################
                                        TEST WITH SCOTTS COMMITED  FILTER.INC
                                        ##########################

                                        #######
                                        TEST1
                                        udp rule
                                        ########

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto udp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 161 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto udp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 161 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19000

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19000 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19000  stream  udp    nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -u -w 20 10.250.100.129 161

                                        ##########
                                        TEST 2
                                        tcp rules
                                        ##########

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto tcp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 80 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto tcp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 80 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19002

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19001 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19002  stream  tcp    nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -w 20 10.250.100.129 80

                                        ############
                                        TEST3
                                        tcp - udp rule
                                        ############

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto { tcp udp } from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 123 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto { tcp udp } from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 123 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19004

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port 19002 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"
                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19002 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19004  stream  tcp/udp nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -w 20 10.250.100.129 123

                                        #############################

                                        TEST WITH ALANS  FILTER.INC using the variable in the udp case

                                        ############################

                                        #######
                                        TEST1
                                        udp rule
                                        ########

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto udp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 161 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto udp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 161 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19000

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19000 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19000  stream  udp    nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -u -w 20 10.250.100.129 161

                                        ##########

                                        TEST 2
                                        tcp rules
                                        ##########

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto tcp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 80 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto tcp from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 80 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19002

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port 19001 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19002  stream  tcp    nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -w 20 10.250.100.129 80

                                        ############
                                        TEST3
                                        tcp - udp rule
                                        ############

                                        NAT Inbound Redirects

                                        rdr on vlan1 proto { tcp udp } from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 123 } -> 10.250.100.129

                                        Reflection redirects

                                        rdr on $lan proto { tcp udp } from any to 192.168.50.254 port { 123 } -> 127.0.0.1 port 19004

                                        NAT Reflection rules

                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto tcp from any to $loopback port 19002 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"
                                        pass in quick on $lan inet proto udp from any to $loopback port 19002 keep state label "NAT REFLECT: Allow traffic to localhost"

                                        Inetd conf
                                        19004  stream  tcp/udp nowait/0        nobody  /usr/bin/nc nc -w 20 10.250.100.129 123

                                        conculsion it just does not work the way you want it to.
                                        ports are not lining up right tcp/udp should use two nc ports and not one.
                                        i think you should remove the feature or really look hard at it.

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                                          sullrich
                                          last edited by

                                          I will just remove.  I am really tired of reflection.

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                                          • S
                                            sullrich
                                            last edited by

                                            I just commited a change to install both tcp and udp entries for reflection.  I am guessing this was the only bug that you are experiencing but its rather hard to tell from re-reading your text.

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