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    Dual WAN, One ISP, balancing possible?

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    • GruensFroeschliG
      GruensFroeschli
      last edited by

      might it not be possible to have a standard 20$ router between one of the IP's and the Pf?

      213.x.x.15 (GW=213.x.x.1) –- cheaprouter ---(some_private_network)
                        /                                                                                   
      ISP -  (HUB)                                                                                        PFSensebox - LAN 192.x.x.x
                        \                                                                                    /
                          213.x.x.85 (GW=213.x.x.1) ---------------------------------

      for line1 as monitor IP 213.x.x.1
      and for line2 as monitor IP an IP one hop behind 213.x.x.1

      i'm not sure if that would work ^^"

      We do what we must, because we can.

      Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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        hoba
        last edited by

        It might work. Haven't tested such a config yet. Not sure what would happen though when tracerouting across the cheap router and if the states get messed up.  ;)

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        • GruensFroeschliG
          GruensFroeschli
          last edited by

          as in this thread:
          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,2679.0.html

          In my test-environment i used 2 boxes and had a static WAN IP on each of them in the same subnet.
          (my university's network was the ISP ;) )

          ISP subnet: 160.85.39.0/24
          ISP router: 160.85.39.1/24
          ISP proxy: 160.85.39.2/24
          WAN1: 160.85.39.120/24
          WAN2: 160.85.39.121/24
          crosslink: 10.10.10.x/30

          ISP-subnet
                      /       
                    /           
                  /               
          WAN1                  WAN2
            |        crosslink      |
          pf1–---------------pf2
            |                          |
          LAN1                    LAN2

          loadbanace worked from each of the 2 LAN's well. (with all the necessary pools and firewallrules in place).
          As monitor IP's i've used on both of the WAN's directly the next router (160.85.39.1)
          and on the crosslink i've used on both as monitor IP the proxy (160.85.39.2)

          So far that worked well but i didnt do anything with tracrouting ^^"

          We do what we must, because we can.

          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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            Eson
            last edited by

            Hi

            Im pretty sure the original poster has BBB Sweden as ISP. They provide med with an 100/10mbit connection, with that I get 5 public IPs and the weird thing is, as the original poster said, that they dont limit the upload anywhere. I will only have 100mbit down in total but I get 10mbit upload per IP so in a sense I have a 100/50mbit connection if I could only use all 5 IPs bandwith at the same time. I would settle for 20 or 30mbits though :) I dont want to have it in total at the same time though as per the original poster, I just want to be able to utilize the 10mbit connections for different servers.

            Lets say for example that I have an ftpserver and my main computer, could I with pfsense and the virtual IP-thing suggested above have my FTP-server use one of the 10mbit and my main computer the other? You might say then why dont just place the FTP server on a public IP directly, well I just want to have all this behind one firewall.

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              databeestje
              last edited by

              No you can not use the load balancer when both interfaces share the same address space or gateway.

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                majedalanni
                last edited by

                Dear
                I bought a hardware with dual wan and put two wire from my hub.
                the two WANS IP (10.175.175.1/8,10.175.175.2/8) and they have same GW 10.1.1.1
                and the bandwidth double and its work

                but how I make this with pfsense?

                Regards

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                  hoba
                  last edited by

                  @majedalanni:

                  Dear
                  I bought a hardware with dual wan and put two wire from my hub.
                  the two WANS IP (10.175.175.1/8,10.175.175.2/8) and they have same GW 10.1.1.1
                  and the bandwidth double and its work

                  but how I make this with pfsense?

                  Regards

                  The solution is right above in this thread. Please read more closely.

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                    majedalanni
                    last edited by

                    Dear

                    What I want to  say why the hardware make the sum of bandwidth without error and why the pfsense cant do ???  :-\

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                      hoba
                      last edited by

                      @majedalanni:

                      Dear

                      What I want to  say why the hardware make the sum of bandwidth without error and why the pfsense cant do ???  :-\

                      I don't understand this sentence. Please try to find some other words.

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                        majedalanni
                        last edited by

                        sory for my bad english

                        but I want to know can pfsense sum bandwith for 10 WAN IP (same gateway) like the hardware dual wan  (SMCBR24Q) and if no …......... why ?

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                          hoba
                          last edited by

                          It can, but you need different gateways (at least if you want to balance it). Other option is to use 1:1 or advanced outbond nat like described above but that won't give you balancing but only simultaneous use by different clients.

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                            majedalanni
                            last edited by

                            dear

                            And in future is it support?
                            and If I make advance NAT is it sum the bandwidth ?

                            and many thaks for you ;D

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                              hoba
                              last edited by

                              I think bill said in a similiar thread that it could be done but our gui doesn't support it. If that is the case we might add support for it later.

                              If you use advanced outbound NAT it will sum up the bandwidth but you need several clients to use all of the bandwidth. None of the clients can use more than one IPs up/down restrictions though.

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                                majedalanni
                                last edited by

                                OK

                                If I make this topology

                                10 ip one GW                                      1 IP and 9 Sub          configure with multi GW
                                ISP –-------------- Switch----------Router----------------pfsense-----------------------------

                                --------ISA Server-------Clients

                                it is work ?
                                and really I need make this work and I am sorry for disturb  you  :P

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                                  Justinw
                                  last edited by

                                  I honestly haven't read this entire thread but I can confirm that you can load balance with the same actual gateway using routers.  Here is my setup:

                                  /–----routera10.10.10.1---------Wan-10.10.10.10
                                  ISP
                                      -------routerb11.11.11.1---------opt1wan2-11.1.11.11
                                  I set it up like that and it worked just dandy.

                                  I will also tell you that I tried it like this:
                                        /------DSLtransprentPPPoEmode---------Wan-PPPoE
                                  ISP
                                      -------routerb11.11.11.1---------opt1wan2-11.1.11.11
                                  and if failed, not sure why though.  It may have just been when I tried that particular setup, I put in a rule incorrectly.  Anyways, hope that helps.  Also if your having dns problems after doing this, the routing tables may be going screwy, but so far it hasn't happned for me.

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                                    hoba
                                    last edited by

                                    @Justinw:

                                    I will also tell you that I tried it like this:
                                          /–----DSLtransprentPPPoEmode---------Wan-PPPoE
                                    ISP
                                        -------routerb11.11.11.1---------opt1wan2-11.1.11.11
                                    and if failed, not sure why though.

                                    There is a known bug that prevents usage of a PPPoE connection for pools. We are working on fixing this.

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                                      majedalanni
                                      last edited by

                                      Dears

                                      But as you see I have 10 IP that mean I need 10 routers or I make Vlans???
                                      or I can make Sub IP in the external router (only One router) and I configure pfsense to use every sub IP as a gateway

                                      please see the attachment this is my Topology and the second one I need to do it Can I ?

                                      Drawing1.jpg
                                      Drawing1.jpg_thumb

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                                        majedalanni
                                        last edited by

                                        please any answer

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                                          sullrich
                                          last edited by

                                          As hoba said, this DOES NOT work currently.  Sorry!

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                                            majedalanni
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks alot

                                            any another software you preferd ??

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