Trouble with NUT and BackUPS XS 1500 via USB…

rsw686 · Apr 19, 2007, 3:48 AM

I just did a quick google search. Found the following.

"Repetitive stale status - Loss of communication

Some models might report repetitive stale status, for 1 sec or less. This is due to a small and temporary flood of the UPS µcontroler.

To solve this point, simply add "pollinterval=15" in ups.conf. Also change the value of MAXAGE to 20 in upsd.conf, and optionally DEADTIME to 20 in upsmon.conf. You might adapt these values according to your tests and configuration."

Let me know if adding this to your config solves the problem. If so I will update the NUT package, either adding a way to modify this value, or defaulting the poll interval to 15 for usb ups.

Please not that changing setting via the webugi nut confiuration page or rebooting will overwrite those files. You will have to modify those files with the webgui daignostics -> edit file or console and then start and stop the service with the status-> services page or from the console.

Fred Fredburger · Apr 19, 2007, 2:57 PM

Thanks for the tip! I'll give this a shot tomorrow at work and post my results!

Thanks again!

Fred Fredburger · Apr 19, 2007, 5:34 PM

Doesn't look like it worked. I changed my /usr/local/etc/nut files to the following (new lines marked with <<)…


user=root
[APC_XS_1500]
driver=newhidups
port=auto
pollinterval=15 <<


ACL all 0.0.0.0/0
ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32
ACCEPT localhost
REJECT all
MAXAGE 20 <<


MONITOR APC_XS_1500@localhost 1 monuser mypass master
MINSUPPLIES 1
SHUTDOWNCMD "/sbin/shutdown -h +0"
POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower
DEADTIME 20 <<


starting newhidups
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5
Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5)

Detected a UPS: American Power Conversion/Back-UPS RS 1500 FW:8.g9 .D USB FW:g9
Using subdriver: APC/CyberPower HID 0.9
starting upsd
Network UPS Tools upsd 2.0.5
Connected to UPS [APC_XS_1500]: APC_XS_1500
starting upsmon
Network UPS Tools upsmon 2.0.5
UPS: APC_XS_1500@localhost (master) (power value 1)
Using power down flag file /etc/killpower

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:04 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost lost

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local                                     
        (no tty) at 10:05 CDT...                                               

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost established                      

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:05 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost lost

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:05 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost established

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:06 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost lost

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:06 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost established

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:06 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost lost

Broadcast Message from admin@pfsense.local
        (no tty) at 10:06 CDT...

Communications with UPS APC_XS_1500@localhost established

Fred Fredburger · Apr 19, 2007, 5:58 PM

@Fred:

Doesn't look like it worked. I changed my /usr/local/etc/nut files to the following (new lines marked with <<)…
user=root
pollinterval=15 <<
[APC_XS_1500]
driver=newhidups
port=auto

After looking at the man page for ups.conf I moved the pollinterval to the global area of the .conf rather than the UPS area. I reran nut.sh start but it didn't make any difference.

rsw686 · Apr 21, 2007, 10:09 PM

Well only thing I can think of is compiling the NUT developmental newhidups driver to see if that addresses the problem.

Fred Fredburger · Apr 27, 2007, 9:48 PM

Well, I got my 940-0128D cable in the mail, but I don't know what settings to choose (or what to modify ups.conf with).

The link I posted earlier, for the pinout, says set it to dumb/940-0128A but it says communication lost then ups unavailable.

Any ideas?

dotdash · Apr 27, 2007, 9:59 PM

I bet you already changed the model to 'back ups generic' or somesuch from 'back ups usb', but you could try the 'backups pro cable' for grins. Try both smart cable and dumb cable and see if anything works…

Fred Fredburger · May 1, 2007, 3:22 PM

After doing every combination of APC Back-UPS (generic)/APC Back-UPS RS (generic)/APC Back-UPS Pro (cable)/APC Smart-UPS (cable), Generic type, and Cable type I ended up with zero options working.

So, I decided to check my dmesg and noticed that it doesn't show a ttyd0. ::) Duh. I'm gonna reboot the firewall after hours and check the COM port setting in the BIOS.

Also, I'm a little confused with the two different drop-downs (generic type and cable type). Do I only worry about the generic drop-down if I choose a UPS that says (generic)? Do I only worry about the cable drop-down if I choose a UPS that says (cable)? Which is the "smart" cable and which is the "dumb" cable?

Thanks!

rsw686 · May 1, 2007, 4:28 PM

You only need to worry about the cable or generic drop down if the ups type you select has it in parenthesis. The serial ports listed in the webgui should be the ones on your system as I parse the dmesg output.

Fred Fredburger · May 1, 2007, 5:30 PM

I don't see any ttyd0 listed in my dmesg.boot. ???


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rsw686 · May 1, 2007, 6:32 PM

sis0, sis1, etc are your serial ports which correspond to /dev/ttyd0, etc

sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled

Looks like they are not configured in the bios.

I don't have my other box running, but to show you my embedded box shows

sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x30 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A

Fred Fredburger · May 1, 2007, 7:03 PM

Yeah, fter I got back from lunch I checked the dmesg and saw the lines with the 8250s that said they weren't enabled. I'm currently trying to coordinate a time with everyone in the office as to when I can reboot.

Any ideas as to which UPS/cable I should try with an APC BackUPS XS via serial?

Fred Fredburger · May 3, 2007, 6:38 PM

I just rebooted and went into the BIOS and enabled COM1.

When I rebooted I got this in my dmesg…
_ sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A_

I set it to APC Back-UPS (generic) and tried generic type 1. After it saved the status said On Line. ;D THANKS EVERYONE!

Generic type 2 gave Low Battery and type 3 gave On Line. I don't know the difference between them, but I figured that 1 was 1 for a reason so I put it back to that.

I couldn't get either the APC Back-UPS (cable) or APC Smart-UPS (cable) to work with either cable.

Would that indicate that the cable I got is just a simple/dumb cable?

Now I gotta work on getting our other *nix boxes to connect to NUT and shutdown when NUT says so.

A little off-topic for this thread, but does pfSense provide any mechanism to send WOL packets to a list of servers when it boots? It'd be nice if it could do that, so NUT will signal our servers to shutdown and pfSense would turn them back on after the firewall was up for xx minutes.

dotdash · May 4, 2007, 4:30 PM

@Fred:

A little off-topic for this thread, but does pfSense provide any mechanism to send WOL packets to a list of servers when it boots? It'd be nice if it could do that, so NUT will signal our servers to shutdown and pfSense would turn them back on after the firewall was up for xx minutes.

For this I think you could create a batch file and call it via shellcmd in the config.xml
Maybe have it wait and then call wol after a few minutes. Perhaps use wol -f to wake a list of macs specified in the file. It will run everytime you reboot the box, but no harm in trying to wake up a server that's already on…