Optimize ping while giving min/max bandwith

starshooter10

hrm…

if it wans'nt pegged at 100% you think the ping would be more steady?

*grabs a P3 550 from work...

hoba

Make sure you are not overusing your bandwdith. If you trafficshaper is set too close or even exceeding your real bandwidth it won't do a good job. Try lowering overall up and downstream for your parentqueues to see if you get better results.

starshooter10

my connection is SUPPOSED to be 6m/384k
(cable so no pppoe) (i thinks)

but i have it set for 5m and 320k

is this good?

hoba

I would not trust the advertised settings without benching it. I have seen a lot of lines not having the speed that one would expect.

Gitsum

Have you tried using m0n0wall? It has lower hardware requirements and it's traffic shaper works better with online gaming.

hoba

@Gitsum:

… and it's traffic shaper works better with online gaming.

You can't say that in general. From my experience it's not the case but I don't game too much. However I use voip which is latency critical as well.

Gitsum

I can say that cause I've tested the crap out of both. Dummynet works better. Sorry.

sullrich

Maybe you can outline the exact steps that you took to test both? Because I am with hoba. When the traffic shaper is setup correctly and tuned a bit (from the sticky threads) it works great.

Gitsum

See thread;
http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=3558.0
I do keep trying though, with every new release of PFSense. The last test I did, I tweaked my game_upload queue to 75%, priority 7, realtime bandwidth, 550kb. Still drops packets. Even tried setting the ACK flag. I just leave the traffic shaper off now.

sullrich

Both the game queue and the ACK queues need to be "tweaked" for the amount of bandwidth you have. Not to over complicate it but there is a excel document in one of the threads that helps in determining these numbers.

starshooter10

oh really?

i put all the game's ports to a few set of rules us'in the VOIP queues (modified)

but i can still tell when some-one say…. opens a lage dmp or uploads to the web

here's what i did:

LAN->WAN
TCP *
Port: 5001 - 5010 *
Port: 5001 - 5010 qVOIPUp/qVOIPDown ultima port set 1

WAN->LAN
TCP *
Port: 5001 - 5010 *
Port: 5001 - 5010 qVOIPDown/qVOIPUp ultima port set 1 2

LAN->WAN
TCP *
Port: 7775 - 7777 *
Port: 7775 - 7777 qVOIPUp/qVOIPDown ultima port set 2

WAN->LAN
TCP *
Port: 7775 - 7777 *
Port: 7775 - 7777 qVOIPDown/qVOIPUp ultima port set 2 2

LAN->WAN
TCP *
Port: 7875 *
Port: 7875 qVOIPUp/qVOIPDown ultima port set 3

WAN->LAN
TCP *
Port: 7875 *
Port: 7875 qVOIPDown/qVOIPUp ultima port set 3 2

LAN->WAN
TCP *
Port: 8800 - 8900 *
Port: 8800 - 8900 qVOIPUp/qVOIPDown ultima port set 4

WAN->LAN
TCP *
Port: 8800 - 8900 *
Port: 8800 - 8900 qVOIPDown/qVOIPUp ultima port set 4 2

LAN->WAN
TCP *
Port: 9999 *
Port: 9999 qVOIPUp/qVOIPDown ultima port set 5

WAN->LAN
TCP *
Port: 9999 *
Port: 9999 qVOIPDown/qVOIPUp ultima port set 5 2

all have the TOS options ON

and here's what my VOIP queues looks like:

25%

priority 7

low latency is checked...
RED , RE I/O
and ECN

realtime limit is 256k

sullrich

Try your tests again with the traffic shaper enabled and visit status -> queues.

Do you see drops on any of the queues besides the default queues?