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      wagonza
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      @jlepthien:

      Hey m8. That works! So is it just the GUI that has got problems? Will this stay after a reboot? Or do I need to edit the unbound.conf by hand?

      Nah it wont stick after a reboot. Basically the GUI just executes what you typed by hand. There is no config option to specify them.
      Ok i pushed a fix - give it a go and let me know how it goes.

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        jlepthien
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        @sullrich:

        In that case I think it's one or another.   Not really sure to be honest with you.   Try enabling the option and test it using the test dnssec page and let us know if it works.

        On the other side of the coin, I am not sure if OpenDNS supports DNSSEC?  I thought they adopted DNSCurve.

        As I've written now, it doesn't work. Well and you are right, OpenDNS adopted DNSCurve….

        @wagonza:

        Nah it wont stick after a reboot. Basically the GUI just executes what you typed by hand. There is no config option to specify them.
        Ok i pushed a fix - give it a go and let me know how it goes.

        Will do when the update shows up…

        | apple fanboy | music lover | network and security specialist | in love with cisco systems |

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          wagonza
          last edited by

          @jlepthien:

          @sullrich:

          In that case I think it's one or another.   Not really sure to be honest with you.   Try enabling the option and test it using the test dnssec page and let us know if it works.

          On the other side of the coin, I am not sure if OpenDNS supports DNSSEC?  I thought they adopted DNSCurve.

          As I've written now, it doesn't work. Well and you are right, OpenDNS adopted DNSCurve….

          Which I am sure they will regret one day…

          @jlepthien:

          Will do when the update shows up…

          I upped the version number and hopefully also fixed the file system errors.

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            danswartz
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            I think my solution is to install and configure tiny-dns, as it looks like it will do everything I want.  Sorry for hijacking this thread - I will drop out now :)

            EDIT: I think I'm just out of luck.  Found a thread from last year where some other soul was trying to get zone transfers to work with tinydns and the last post indicated failure.  Sigh…

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              danswartz
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              What I am doing for now: adding 2-3 entries in /etc/hosts on a couple of the servers that need to be able to talk to other servers, even if pfsense is offline.  I do want to try replacing dnsmasq with unbound and see how it works…

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                wagonza
                last edited by

                @danswartz:

                EDIT: I think I'm just out of luck.  Found a thread from last year where some other soul was trying to get zone transfers to work with tinydns and the last post indicated failure.  Sigh…

                Give me a few weeks, I have a need to implement NSD(http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/) instead of using TinyDNS. This should hopefully help you.

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                  wagonza
                  last edited by

                  @jlepthien:

                  Hey m8. That works! So is it just the GUI that has got problems? Will this stay after a reboot? Or do I need to edit the unbound.conf by hand? But now I DNSSEC does not seem to be working. The http://test.dnssec-or-not.org/ url does not even open…

                  Also http://www.dnssec-tools.org/testzone/ does not open? Does it open for you?

                  Yeah I believe Unbound can't validate the answers from OpenDNS because they don't support DNSSec, hence why you get an invalid reply.

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                    danswartz
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                    Thanks for the hard work.  I will stay tuned :)

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                      jlepthien
                      last edited by

                      @wagonza:

                      I upped the version number and hopefully also fixed the file system errors.

                      Does not work here. When enabling the forward mode the servers do not get written and unbound-config forward still says 'off'. Since OpenDNS is not supporting DNSSEC anyway I might as well stick to dnsmasq or disable DNSSEC…

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                        _igor_
                        last edited by

                        I think you know it, but here for future? reference…

                        http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/presentations/ripe47-dn-dnssec-nsd.pdf
                        Sounds interesting...

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                          wagonza
                          last edited by

                          @jlepthien:

                          Does not work here. When enabling the forward mode the servers do not get written and unbound-config forward still says 'off'. Since OpenDNS is not supporting DNSSEC anyway I might as well stick to dnsmasq or disable DNSSEC…

                          Just do a grep reload /usr/local/pkg/unbound.inc  - that should return zero results. If it does then you will need to uninstall the package and then re-install.

                          Otherwise yeah disable DNSSec or stick to DNSMasq for now :$ OpenDNS do say they will eventually support DNSSec if gains more traction…

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                            wagonza
                            last edited by

                            @_igor_:

                            I think you know it, but here for future? reference…

                            http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/presentations/ripe47-dn-dnssec-nsd.pdf
                            Sounds interesting...

                            thanks - will check this out.

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                              mromero
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                              On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                              Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                              ???

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                                wagonza
                                last edited by

                                @mromero:

                                On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                                Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                                ???

                                Is this still a problem? I can only assume DNSMasq was re-enabled.

                                I have been away for the last week - hence the late reply.

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                                  mromero
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                                  On latest snapshot of today 4 January same old:

                                  Jan 4 21:06:41 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1294175201] unbound[48254:0] error: bind: address already in use [1294175201] unbound[48254:0] fatal error: could not open ports'

                                  @wagonza:

                                  @mromero:

                                  On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                                  Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                                  ???

                                  Is this still a problem? I can only assume DNSMasq was re-enabled.

                                  I have been away for the last week - hence the late reply.

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                                    mromero
                                    last edited by

                                    It appears we are close to a RC1 candidate with so many things broken?

                                    One of the developers tweeted:

                                    "DNSSEC is right now the top, by far the top distributed denial of service amplifier on the internet"

                                    Could this be why no one seems to care about the Unbound package?

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                                      _igor_
                                      last edited by

                                      I would be interested in infos about it. Searching the net i only get - nothing! So no explanation nor other info. Sounds a bit like "Windows is the most secure software known".

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                                        mromero
                                        last edited by

                                        Here is the original Tweet, but I notice the URL goes to a 404 - do not known what to make of it:

                                        sullrich Scott Ullrich
                                        DNSSEC is right now the top, by far the top distributed denial of service amplifier on the internet. -DJB http://ha.cx/DJB.mp4

                                        29 Dec

                                        @_igor_:

                                        I would be interested in infos about it. Searching the net i only get - nothing! So no explanation nor other info. Sounds a bit like "Windows is the most secure software known".

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                                          wagonza
                                          last edited by

                                          @mromero:

                                          On latest snapshot of today 4 January same old:

                                          Jan 4 21:06:41 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1294175201] unbound[48254:0] error: bind: address already in use [1294175201] unbound[48254:0] fatal error: could not open ports'

                                          Can you check if this happens next time and if so issue the following command when you see this error:

                                          sockstat -4 -p 53

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                                            _igor_
                                            last edited by

                                            Found something about the "denial of service amplifier" of DNSSEC: There was a discussion at the 27c3 in Berlin at the end of 2010… Was about the weakness of DNSSEC and the glory of dnscurve...

                                            It can be found here: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Conference_Recordings (Its Number 4295)
                                            http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/attachments/1773_slides.pdf

                                            And here an interesting opinion from Dan Kaminsky: http://dankaminsky.com/2011/01/05/djb-ccc/

                                            Maybe all this clears some things up (or not ;-)

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