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      wagonza
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      @jlepthien:

      @sullrich:

      In that case I think it's one or another.   Not really sure to be honest with you.   Try enabling the option and test it using the test dnssec page and let us know if it works.

      On the other side of the coin, I am not sure if OpenDNS supports DNSSEC?  I thought they adopted DNSCurve.

      As I've written now, it doesn't work. Well and you are right, OpenDNS adopted DNSCurve….

      Which I am sure they will regret one day…

      @jlepthien:

      Will do when the update shows up…

      I upped the version number and hopefully also fixed the file system errors.

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        danswartz
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        I think my solution is to install and configure tiny-dns, as it looks like it will do everything I want.  Sorry for hijacking this thread - I will drop out now :)

        EDIT: I think I'm just out of luck.  Found a thread from last year where some other soul was trying to get zone transfers to work with tinydns and the last post indicated failure.  Sigh…

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          danswartz
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          What I am doing for now: adding 2-3 entries in /etc/hosts on a couple of the servers that need to be able to talk to other servers, even if pfsense is offline.  I do want to try replacing dnsmasq with unbound and see how it works…

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            wagonza
            last edited by

            @danswartz:

            EDIT: I think I'm just out of luck.  Found a thread from last year where some other soul was trying to get zone transfers to work with tinydns and the last post indicated failure.  Sigh…

            Give me a few weeks, I have a need to implement NSD(http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/) instead of using TinyDNS. This should hopefully help you.

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              wagonza
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              @jlepthien:

              Hey m8. That works! So is it just the GUI that has got problems? Will this stay after a reboot? Or do I need to edit the unbound.conf by hand? But now I DNSSEC does not seem to be working. The http://test.dnssec-or-not.org/ url does not even open…

              Also http://www.dnssec-tools.org/testzone/ does not open? Does it open for you?

              Yeah I believe Unbound can't validate the answers from OpenDNS because they don't support DNSSec, hence why you get an invalid reply.

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                danswartz
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                Thanks for the hard work.  I will stay tuned :)

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                  jlepthien
                  last edited by

                  @wagonza:

                  I upped the version number and hopefully also fixed the file system errors.

                  Does not work here. When enabling the forward mode the servers do not get written and unbound-config forward still says 'off'. Since OpenDNS is not supporting DNSSEC anyway I might as well stick to dnsmasq or disable DNSSEC…

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                    _igor_
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                    I think you know it, but here for future? reference…

                    http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/presentations/ripe47-dn-dnssec-nsd.pdf
                    Sounds interesting...

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                      wagonza
                      last edited by

                      @jlepthien:

                      Does not work here. When enabling the forward mode the servers do not get written and unbound-config forward still says 'off'. Since OpenDNS is not supporting DNSSEC anyway I might as well stick to dnsmasq or disable DNSSEC…

                      Just do a grep reload /usr/local/pkg/unbound.inc  - that should return zero results. If it does then you will need to uninstall the package and then re-install.

                      Otherwise yeah disable DNSSec or stick to DNSMasq for now :$ OpenDNS do say they will eventually support DNSSec if gains more traction…

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                        wagonza
                        last edited by

                        @_igor_:

                        I think you know it, but here for future? reference…

                        http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/presentations/ripe47-dn-dnssec-nsd.pdf
                        Sounds interesting...

                        thanks - will check this out.

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                          mromero
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                          On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                          Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                          ???

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                            wagonza
                            last edited by

                            @mromero:

                            On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                            Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                            ???

                            Is this still a problem? I can only assume DNSMasq was re-enabled.

                            I have been away for the last week - hence the late reply.

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                              mromero
                              last edited by

                              On latest snapshot of today 4 January same old:

                              Jan 4 21:06:41 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1294175201] unbound[48254:0] error: bind: address already in use [1294175201] unbound[48254:0] fatal error: could not open ports'

                              @wagonza:

                              @mromero:

                              On the latest snapshot of today i386 still getting:

                              Dec 30 23:36:31 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1293752191] unbound[53513:0] error: bind: address already in use [1293752191] unbound[53513:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
                              ???

                              Is this still a problem? I can only assume DNSMasq was re-enabled.

                              I have been away for the last week - hence the late reply.

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                                mromero
                                last edited by

                                It appears we are close to a RC1 candidate with so many things broken?

                                One of the developers tweeted:

                                "DNSSEC is right now the top, by far the top distributed denial of service amplifier on the internet"

                                Could this be why no one seems to care about the Unbound package?

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                                  _igor_
                                  last edited by

                                  I would be interested in infos about it. Searching the net i only get - nothing! So no explanation nor other info. Sounds a bit like "Windows is the most secure software known".

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                                    mromero
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is the original Tweet, but I notice the URL goes to a 404 - do not known what to make of it:

                                    sullrich Scott Ullrich
                                    DNSSEC is right now the top, by far the top distributed denial of service amplifier on the internet. -DJB http://ha.cx/DJB.mp4

                                    29 Dec

                                    @_igor_:

                                    I would be interested in infos about it. Searching the net i only get - nothing! So no explanation nor other info. Sounds a bit like "Windows is the most secure software known".

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                                      wagonza
                                      last edited by

                                      @mromero:

                                      On latest snapshot of today 4 January same old:

                                      Jan 4 21:06:41 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1294175201] unbound[48254:0] error: bind: address already in use [1294175201] unbound[48254:0] fatal error: could not open ports'

                                      Can you check if this happens next time and if so issue the following command when you see this error:

                                      sockstat -4 -p 53

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                                        _igor_
                                        last edited by

                                        Found something about the "denial of service amplifier" of DNSSEC: There was a discussion at the 27c3 in Berlin at the end of 2010… Was about the weakness of DNSSEC and the glory of dnscurve...

                                        It can be found here: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Conference_Recordings (Its Number 4295)
                                        http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/attachments/1773_slides.pdf

                                        And here an interesting opinion from Dan Kaminsky: http://dankaminsky.com/2011/01/05/djb-ccc/

                                        Maybe all this clears some things up (or not ;-)

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                                          mromero
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Wagonza. I ran the command from Shell and copied this result in longhand from the console:

                                          USER        COMMAND      PID        FD      PROTO      LOCAL ADDRESS      FOREIGN ADDRESS

                                          unbound  unbound        22871    12      udp4        192.168.1.1:53        :
                                          unbound  unbound        22871    13      tcp4          192.168.1.1:53        :

                                          @wagonza:

                                          @mromero:

                                          On latest snapshot of today 4 January same old:

                                          Jan 4 21:06:41 php: : The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound-control start' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1294175201] unbound[48254:0] error: bind: address already in use [1294175201] unbound[48254:0] fatal error: could not open ports'

                                          Can you check if this happens next time and if so issue the following command when you see this error:

                                          sockstat -4 -p 53

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                                            gnhb
                                            last edited by

                                            @_igor_:

                                            And here an interesting opinion from Dan Kaminsky: http://dankaminsky.com/2011/01/05/djb-ccc/

                                            Maybe all this clears some things up (or not ;-)

                                            This was a great read from Dan Kaminsky. I'm a DNSSEC convert! :)

                                            Check out his slides from his BlackHat talk too. http://dankaminsky.com/phreebird/

                                            Time to check out Unbound . . .

                                            GB

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