Sky Fibre to the Cabinet Rollout - PfSense support?
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Capped to 60Mbps doesn't sound too bad. ;)
The FTTC dsl operated by bt wholesale and used by everyone except virgin uses VDSL2 between your house and the cabinet. VDSL2 is good for up to 250Mbps at 100M.
@http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_high_speed_digital_subscriber_line_2:
VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and still outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.[3]
So as long as you're within 1km of the cabinet you should see 38Mbps.
Not a problem for me, I'm less than 100M from the exchange! :P
Steve
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if you watch 1080p HD video and downloading Demo on steam and on the PS3 and even on YouTube you can reach up to 2TB easily, I just did some testing watching the following video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk
240p - 580k/s peak rate, 525k sustained
360p - 1.2Mb/s peak, and around 750k/s sustained
480p - 7Mb/s peak rate, and around 850k/s sustained
720p - 11Mb/s peak rate, and around 2-2.5Mb/s sustained
1080p - 15Mb/s peak rate, 13Mb/s sustainedCapped to 60Mbps doesn't sound too bad. ;)
Yeah is not too bad but i tend to download during the night. But give it a few months and Openreach (BT, TalkTalk, Sky fiber etc) will start capping too because there will be people abusing the system with illegal P2P / Torrents but thats gonna come to a stop soon
On one hand i do torrent linux iso distros because i find them faster then the HTTP and FTP but i seed about 1mbits during the night
So as long as you're within 1km of the cabinet you should see 38Mbps.
Lucky for some haha! :P
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if you watch 1080p HD video and downloading Demo on steam and on the PS3 and even on YouTube you can reach up to 2TB easily, I just did some testing watching the following video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk
240p - 580k/s peak rate, 525k sustained
360p - 1.2Mb/s peak, and around 750k/s sustained
480p - 7Mb/s peak rate, and around 850k/s sustained
720p - 11Mb/s peak rate, and around 2-2.5Mb/s sustained
1080p - 15Mb/s peak rate, 13Mb/s sustainedCapped to 60Mbps doesn't sound too bad. ;)
Yeah is not too bad but i tend to download during the night. But give it a few months and Openreach (BT, TalkTalk, Sky fiber etc) will start capping too because there will be people abusing the system with illegal P2P / Torrents but thats gonna come to a stop soon
On one hand i do torrent linux iso distros because i find them faster then the HTTP and FTP but i seed about 1mbits during the night
So as long as you're within 1km of the cabinet you should see 38Mbps.
Lucky for some haha! :P
Sky ADSL Unlimited never had a cap or throttle.
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Clearly I'm not trying hard enough:
Billing Period Allowance Used Overnight Usage Total usage 01 Apr - 01 May 10.27GB 4.3GB 14.57GB 01 Mar - 01 Apr 11.01GB 5.18GB 16.18GB 01 Feb - 01 Mar 8.28GB 4.05GB 12.33GBI'll have to step up my downloading! ::)
Steve
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Thanks for this info :)
Didn't have any issues before because I was on DSL and I could use PPoE.
Then I upgraded to FTTC and… well... there was a noticeable improvement on speed (more than double) but my SonicWALL TZ200 didn't want to play ball.
Selected DHCP, put Skyusername|Skypassword on the Host Name field... nothing. Tried with hex converted Skyusername|Skypassword not enough characters in the field. Disappointing.
Contacted SonicWALL about it, they said "we don't support DHCP option 61"... which left me perplexed, what is the Host Name field then?
Then I stumbled upon this thread... Luckily I had just bought hardware for a small HTPC, which swiftly became a pfsense box :D
I was up and running in less than 10 minutes.
Now I need to figure out how to integrate the SonicWALL (after all pfsense looks very able but is not a UTM appliance, at least not out of the box) but I'm no longer bound to the Sky router hardware :)
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I cant wait till the bring FTTH here too :)
right now im on a lower speed cable…
but cant complain about service.
Im paying for 50/3 and
That's what I'm getting
Also our FTTH service will start at 250/30 and span to 1000/200 :DCan't wait for November.
They are coming out sometime next week to replace my backdrop as its damaged and they are dropping in a new "structured" cable that contains the fiber and the coax :) -
Well, my daughter is torrenting now :/
Got sick of the bottle neck this morning so upgraded a bit…
100/5
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Figured I update this…
They are replacing the underground backdrop to my place and the structured cable is going in the next few days.
Thank you SHAW :)However...
Not sure how your guys setup is but this is what they are going to use on our end...
http://www.arrisi.com/products/product.asp?id=31BTW…
Its a dual fiber feed but only one fiber is being lit in a 1310/1550 SM
Cant wait for the launch of Gigabit in this neighbourhood :D -
sorry to bring back this thread to life.
I have recently had fiber installed and i though it was going to be straight forward as shown here before.
Sky sent me new router and the username and password were built in. I used wireshark to retrieve those by sniffing for client option (61)
put those details in host name section in wan interface. and its not picking up and ip.
I don't know what i am doing wrong. It was working before same setup using adsl with different username and password but now its stopped.
screen shot below of my setup
right its not good news.
I came home and no ip has been issued.
here is my setup
ive put the new username|password i have extracted in my settings to replace the old one.
the second picture is the screenshot of my configuration for my hacked huwae hg612 modem. setup for bridged as it was before for MER AUTH
third picture is the systems logs and errors im receiving.
your help would be much appreciated particularly the pfsense devs
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I suspect you have the modem configured incorrectly.
Have you used it before on another connection?I'll have to re-read this whole thread, I seem to have forgotten most of it! ::)
There is probably new information at the original linked website also.Steve
Edit: Ok, read it! Were you using the HG612 on your previous adsl2+ connection? Have you reconfigured it to use vdsl? Have you hacked the HG612 Sky/Openreach provided you with or is it a different one? What router have Sky supplied you?
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thank you for your fast response. I managed to get it working with the ECI modem provided from BTO.
however my hacked huwaei hg612 is not working. ive posted this question on skyuser forum. I will cut and paste here for a clearer understanding.
good news my suspicions were correct.
So I had been using my hacked Huwaei HG612 previously with my sky unlimited and it was working absolutely fine and the settings I had were correct as posted above.
eventually after exploring all avenues. I thought to myself why dont i try plug in the ECI modem that the engineer originally installed and see if that makes a difference.(ie chipset/cabinet compatibility)
So that's what I did. Plugged the ECI modem in and voila my firewall/router automatically picked up the dhcp address with the new username|password I extracted from the new hub, I have also tested it with the old username and password from my sagem router and it also picked up a dhcp lease and ip.
so I guess the issues are the following:
huwaei modem chipset is not compatible with the cabinet
the modem configuration settings that I have been using up until now with unlimited, don't work for fiber.The first point seems the most likely but it just doesn't make sense. That would mean BTO had a monopoly on hardware to be used for fiber.
Again I cant confirm this point because I don't have access to the cabinet hahaha.I'm hoping its the second point and someone can shed some on what the corrects settings are to be used with fibre.
obviously im not going to chance it and hack the eci for the sake of line stats, however it would of been nice to use my Huwaei HG612.
I just need someone to confirm the above before I put it on fleabay
I suspect you have the modem configured incorrectly.
Have you used it before on another connection?I'll have to re-read this whole thread, I seem to have forgotten most of it! ::)
There is probably new information at the original linked website also.Steve
Edit: Ok, read it! Were you using the HG612 on your previous adsl2+ connection? Have you reconfigured it to use vdsl? Have you hacked the HG612 Sky/Openreach provided you with or is it a different one? What router have Sky supplied you?
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Edit: Ok, read it! Were you using the HG612 on your previous adsl2+ connection? Have you reconfigured it to use vdsl? Have you hacked the HG612 Sky/Openreach provided you with or is it a different one? What router have Sky supplied you?
Ok, read it! Were you using the HG612 on your previous adsl2+ connection?
Yes my hacked one.Have you reconfigured it to use vdsl?
Yes just changed the modulation to vdsl2 and left everything the same ie vpi/vci. dont know if this is the problem and it needs alteringHave you hacked the HG612 Sky/Openreach provided you with or is it a different one?
yes i bought a hg612 off ebay and hacked it because i want to have line stats etc/ but i also have the eci one provided by BTO and that works fine as mentioned in above postWhat router have Sky supplied you?
Sky have supplied me with the new sky hub SR101, but i have managed to sucessfull extract the username|password using wireshark and it works fine with pfsense+eci modem bto provided however not with the hacked hg612 modem.So i think my huwaei settings maybe incorrect ?
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So i think my huwaei settings maybe incorrect ?
I agree. It should be standard config across all providers, Sky, BT etc so I would imagine it's well documented on the HG612 hack site.
Steve
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So i think my huwaei settings maybe incorrect ?
I agree. It should be standard config across all providers, Sky, BT etc so I would imagine it's well documented on the HG612 hack site.
Steve
thanks. I thought it might have been. I will have a look on the huwaei hack site and see what i can find. but for the mean time its working perfect with the eci modem.
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tried looking but no luck. i am assuming your not using a hacked modem ?
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No, my BT supplied HG612 is still locked down.
Steve
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No, my BT supplied HG612 is still locked down.
Steve
i think i need to search them web abit more then. is there anyway to access the settings via telnet/ssh ?
does sky use atm or ptm for its connection ?
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got it working.
done some more diggin. Fiber use PTM connection not ATM
and VLAN is required to establish connection.
here is a screenshot of the settings if anyone needs them for the future or decides to use a hacked huwaei modem or any other alternative modem.
what I am interested to know from the pfsense gurus is vlan 802.1p. i have set it to default 2
but i have noticed when googling there are 7 values each with different priority. which is the best in terms of performance ?PCP Priority Acronym Traffic Types
1 0 (lowest) BK Background
0 1 BE Best Effort
2 2 EE Excellent Effort
3 3 CA Critical Applications
4 4 VI Video, < 100 ms latency and jitter
5 5 VO Voice, < 10 ms latency and jitter
6 6 IC Internetwork Control
7 7 (highest) NC Network Control -
Ah good stuff. :)
I have no idea about 802.1p, or no more than is revealed by a quick Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_P802.1p
You might think that setting it to a higher level would give you priority over other users. However it may also screw things completely or have engineers are your door in seconds!
Since everyone else will be at 2 there would be no need to go higher than 3. Wait until a busy time when your connection speed has slowed and try it. ;)
Most likely it will do nothing at all and is just an option provided by Huawei that's unused by BT/Sky.I keep meaning to get a second modem to hack. This may be the final trigger.
Steve
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Ah good stuff. :)
I have no idea about 802.1p, or no more than is revealed by a quick Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_P802.1p
You might think that setting it to a higher level would give you priority over other users. However it may also screw things completely or have engineers are your door in seconds!
Since everyone else will be at 2 there would be no need to go higher than 3. Wait until a busy time when your connection speed has slowed and try it. ;)
Most likely it will do nothing at all and is just an option provided by Huawei that's unused by BT/Sky.I keep meaning to get a second modem to hack. This may be the final trigger.
Steve
yeah nice one. thanks for your help. your thread came in really handy
