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    2.1 Snapshot Feedback and Problems - RETIRED
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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by

      @miloman:

      heres your wall of text. :)

      Thanks :-)

      Summarizing a little…
      @miloman:

      OpenSSL 0.9.8q, aesni.ko UNloaded:
      aes-128-cbc      98891.21k  107382.09k  109967.84k  110944.78k  111161.64k

      OpenSSL 1.0.1c, aesni.ko UNloaded:
      aes-128-cbc    579671.54k  617097.75k  627073.02k  629606.40k  630352.55k

      OpenSSL 0.9.8q, aesni.ko loaded:
      aes-128-cbc      14535.69k    53485.26k  164217.56k  351201.58k  403372.36k

      OpenSSL 1.0.1c, aesni.ko loaded:
      aes-128-cbc      14502.88k    53441.32k  163384.91k  350985.22k  403617.11k

      OpenSSL 0.9.8q, aesni.ko loaded, cryptodev engine:
      aes-128-cbc      14514.45k    53674.88k  164313.53k  351151.19k  403847.11k

      OpenSSL 1.0.1c, aesni.ko loaded, cryptodev engine
      aes-128-cbc      14577.42k    53591.79k  164157.89k  351943.00k  403794.60k

      It looks like loading aesni.ko does make it get used, since there is a substantial difference between the base system aesni before and after it is loaded.
      Oddly, OpenSSL 1.0.1c without aesni.ko loaded is even faster. I'm not sure if that's somehow linked to OpenSSL's internal aesni support that may be getting dragged down by cryptodev or what.

      If you repeat that test (just the first two commands), are the results the same each time?

      Once aesni.ko is loaded it doesn't seem to matter which version of openssl is used or the engine used, too, suggesting at least the speed command is autoselecting the engine based on the cipher being used. (I confirmed this is also the case on ALIX with glxsb). So the last two commands can be ignored apparently.

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        miloman
        last edited by

        If you repeat that test (just the first two commands), are the results the same each time?

        yes… i ran the commands a couple of times to see if the speed/results were consistent.

        let me know if you need me to test anything else. :)

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          It may be helpful if others with capable hardware could run the same test, I started a spreadsheet here:
          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AojFUXcbH0ROdE15eHB4dndHTXZYcU1mQm9Dc3V2elE

          The only other thing to try is a similar test but with actual VPN traffic (e.g. OpenVPN using AES-128-CBC) to see if (a) throughput is improved and/or (b) cpu usage reduced under load.

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
            last edited by

            Thought of one more thing:

            cryptotest -va aes128
            
            

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              bardelot
              last edited by

              Just out of curiosity, I wonder how big the difference is when you do not use EVP (e.g. without -evp). Or is AES-NI only used when using EVP anyway?

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                ggzengel
                last edited by

                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 660 @ 3.33GHz

                (cryptodev) BSD cryptodev engine
                [RSA, DSA, DH, AES-128-CBC, AES-192-CBC, AES-256-CBC]
                    [ available ]
                (rsax) RSAX engine support
                [RSA]
                    [ available ]

                cryptotest -a aes 100000 100000
                23.461 sec,  200000    aes crypts,  100000 bytes, 852493443 byte/sec,  6504.0 Mb/sec

                /usr/local/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -engine cryptodev -multi 4
                OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
                evp              33879.67k  137175.74k  474658.63k  1254087.68k  1675531.61k

                /usr/local/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-256-cbc -engine cryptodev -multi 4
                evp              33888.18k  135526.57k  447022.51k  1109458.88k  1423601.97k

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                  vitek
                  last edited by

                  Input from my machine an virtualized pfsense in esxi 5.1. (AES NI working on other win7 guest, so its correctly passthroughed)
                  ESXI host specs:
                  Xeon 1220
                  32gb ram
                  Intel NICs

                  pfSense guest specs:
                  2 cores
                  1gb ram
                  VMxNet3 nics

                  Before kldload aesni

                  [2.1-BETA1][admin@pfsense.localdomain]/root(1): /usr/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
                  You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
                  To get the most accurate results, try to run this
                  program when this computer is idle.
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 25200854 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 7556040 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 1974553 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 506622 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 63906 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010
                  built on: date not available
                  options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
                  compiler: cc
                  available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value]
                  timing function used: gettimeofday
                  The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
                  type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
                  aes-128-cbc    134377.68k  160686.63k  167961.52k  172378.58k  173953.57k

                  [2.1-BETA1][admin@pfsense.localdomain]/root(3): /usr/local/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
                  You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 111268869 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 30363529 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 7753535 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 1944836 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 243389 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
                  built on: Sun Jan 27 13:08:29 EST 2013
                  options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
                  compiler: cc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -pthread -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,–noexecstack -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIOS -O3 -DMD32_REG_T=int -Wall -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM
                  The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
                  type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
                  aes-128-cbc    593433.97k  646072.80k  659916.45k  662113.10k  662887.96k

                  after kldload aesni

                  [2.1-BETA1][admin@pfsense.localdomain]/root(5): /usr/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
                  You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
                  To get the most accurate results, try to run this
                  program when this computer is idle.
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 2914003 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 2776488 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 2127090 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 1097708 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 129159 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010
                  built on: date not available
                  options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(ptr,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) blowfish(idx)
                  compiler: cc
                  available timing options: USE_TOD HZ=128 [sysconf value]
                  timing function used: gettimeofday
                  The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
                  type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
                  aes-128-cbc      15517.00k    59045.34k  180937.99k  373499.22k  351573.93k

                  [2.1-BETA1][admin@pfsense.localdomain]/root(6): /usr/local/bin/openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
                  You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 2870466 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 2702743 aes-128-cbc's in 3.02s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 2093458 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 1087780 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 130583 aes-128-cbc's in 3.01s
                  OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
                  built on: Sun Jan 27 13:08:29 EST 2013
                  options:bn(64,64) md2(int) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) idea(int) blowfish(idx)
                  compiler: cc -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB_SHARED -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -pthread -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,–noexecstack -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIOS -O3 -DMD32_REG_T=int -Wall -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM
                  The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
                  type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
                  aes-128-cbc      15309.15k    57359.77k  178177.74k  370331.17k  355652.47k

                  I can add that i have tested actual VPN performance which conclude.
                  Speed measured with iperf on 2 windows 7 machines one on LAN and on WAN

                  If i just route between 2 nets without an tunnel the speeds are well above Gbit speed. CPU usage = ~75%

                  If i use the vpn tunnel with AES 128 the speed is around 300mbit (around same speed with BSD engine, no hardware , and RSX engine). CPU usage ~40%

                  If i use the vpn tunnel with NO encryption the speed is still around 300mbit.

                  Not really sure why as soon as the tunnel is used the speed no more than 300mbit.

                  Hope this helps!
                  Let me know if I should test something else.

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    You might be hitting a general openvpn limit at some point there, check threads around the forum here, you might at least try this tweak:
                    http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,47567.0.html

                    Your numbers seem to coincide with the similar numbers from the previous tester as well.

                    Did you happen to try the VPN speed without aesni.ko loaded? Or just with and toggling the engine setting?

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                      vitek
                      last edited by

                      Actually now that you say it. I only tested the vpn speed without the aesni.ko loaded. I should test it with it loaded.

                      Ill also check the thread with the tweak.

                      EDIT: I tested with the aesni.ko loaded no speedchange. Might be higher cpu usage though not entirely sure.
                      Also tested the ip fastforwarding tweak which had no effect.

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                        adam65535
                        last edited by

                        Did anyone ever discover why there was no apparent change in performance with aes-ni enabled?  I did a search for aes-ni and aesni but didn't see any further threads.  I don't have a system with aes-ni on 2.1 yet.

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                          kejianshi
                          last edited by

                          I see you are testing IPsec earlier and some openvpn. I would be interested in knowing what the maximum throughput you might get with all 4 cores enabled, using 4 separate clients connecting to 1 server each client on a different port with separate openvpn instance for each.  Its probably not part of your testing, bit would be interesting to know if it will saturate a gigabit interface.

                          As far as file transferes from 1 computer to another be careful that drive read/write speed isn't a bottleneck.

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                            last edited by

                            @adam65535:

                            Did anyone ever discover why there was no apparent change in performance with aes-ni enabled?  I did a search for aes-ni and aesni but didn't see any further threads.  I don't have a system with aes-ni on 2.1 yet.

                            Not yet, mostly for lack of a good test setup. We're building up some test rigging/infrastructure to get some good throughput numbers for the new book and for other purposes and I believe some of that hardware does have AES-NI, so we may have better information in the coming months.

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                              adam65535
                              last edited by

                              jimp, If I have time I will probably throw a 2.1 snapshot one of the Dell R320 servers I have and see how the openssl test does on it.  I assume it will reveal the same results as everyone else though.

                              kejianshi,  I just don't have time to do that kind of testing right now.

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                A single test probably won't really tell us much. What we'd really need to see is a pair of identical systems configured identically back-to-back (but with different IPs/subnets as needed) and see what kind of LAN-to-LAN throughput we can obtain through an active/live VPN in each of the test cases

                                1. aesni.ko loaded, OpenVPN set to use cryptodev
                                2. aesni.ko loaded, OpenVPN set to "no hardware"
                                3. aesni.ko unloaded, OpenVPN set to use cryptodev
                                4. aesni.ko unloaded, OpenVPN set to "no hardware"

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                                  kejianshi
                                  last edited by

                                  My AMD FX-8150 at a remote site with aes-ni absolutely smokes my Intel CPUs without aes-ni in these openssl tests.
                                  Its not even close.

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