• Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
Netgate Discussion Forum
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login

Hardware recommendations?

Hardware
7
38
8.4k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • C
    CaptainWTF
    last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 5:17 PM

    Im looking to get a new router.

    I'm stuck between a RouterOS device and a PfSense machine.

    I've seen the watchguard fireboxes can be converted, most of them I'm finding within the price range I am willing to dip into are only 100mbit which I want gigabit.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Barebones-Mini-ITX-pfSense-Firewall-Router-Intel-D2500CC-PicoPSU-80-2x-Gbe-LAN-/200839113376?pt=US_Firewall_VPN_Devices&hash=item2ec2f1aaa0 <–- i've found things like this but I also need to be able to add in wireless functionality.

    As far as hardware reccomendations go does anyone have any, as well as has anyone here had experience w/ RouterOS and how does it compare?

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • C
      CaptainWTF
      last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 6:08 PM

      Additionally can you set up a wireless interface via USB?

      And how well would pfsense run on an Asrock e350m1 e350 APU machine?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 6:19 PM

        You can use usb wifi adapters and some can be used as an access point. However the wifi hardware support is limited so you have to choose your card/stick carefully. See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AojFUXcbH0ROdHgwYkFHbkRUdV9hVWljVWl5SXkxbFE&hl=en#gid=0
        There is no 802.11N support at all so if you need that you have to use an external access point. To be honest access points can be had so cheaply these days that it's hard no to recommend going that route. You can also locate it for better radio reception as a bonus.

        I don't know what your price range is but Watchguard boxes can be had very cheaply, even the gigabit models. E.g. : http://www.ebay.com/itm/181193373805
        That box will not route at gigabit speed though. What are your actual requirements?

        Steve

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • C
          CaptainWTF
          last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 6:23 PM

          No requirements really, Im just using this in the home setting and I want some additional functionality.

          The most intensive thing I'd probably be doing is transferring data within the network to my NAS.

          I prefer buy it now items and @ 30.00 shipping thats a joke. lol

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • K
            kejianshi
            last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 6:27 PM

            I could sell you "Specially configured" DD-WRT linksys E2000 set up as Wireless N AP/Gigabit switch for $20 + $1,000,000 shipping…

            Or you could buy one and configure it yourself for like $20.  ;D

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • C
              CaptainWTF
              last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 7:32 PM

              I already run a Buffalo router preloaded w/ dd-wrt.

              Im looking for a firewall as well.

              Only way to do that is to add entries to iptables which I don't care for.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • K
                kejianshi
                last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 7:37 PM

                Then you are all set.  You buffalo router can be your gigabit switch and your wireless N AP.

                Just plug it into a configured pfsense LAN port and you are all set.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • C
                  CaptainWTF
                  last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 8:43 PM Aug 13, 2013, 8:38 PM

                  Ill just look at gigabit firebox solutions.

                  its not difficult to do the conversions is it, what all is required. I've kinda looked at some of the info on it.

                  @Stephen, That is a non gigabit model.
                  What are the models that ARE gigabit?

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • K
                    kejianshi
                    last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 8:49 PM

                    Does it have to fit some certain special form factor or power consumption spec?

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • C
                      CaptainWTF
                      last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 9:27 PM

                      Yeah, not a 4 ft long 1u rackmount blade. or anything of  large size. I'd like it to be something I can fit on my desk. or next to it.

                      Also whats a good intel gigabit nic w/ multiple ports on it that would be supported by pfsense

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • K
                        kejianshi
                        last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 9:40 PM Aug 13, 2013, 9:38 PM

                        If it just needs to fit on your desk, just get yourself a nice small desktop board, a couple of 2 port PCIe NICs, almost any modern intel or AMD CPU, a couple GB or more of ram and put it on your desk.  If all the hardware is 2 years old or more and especially if its all Intel, it going to work great.  It doesn't need to be expensive either.  But, if it doesn't have to fit a 1U chassis I'd suggest a quad core processor clocked at 3GHZ or more. A modern I5, I7 or AMD or something will allow you to get pretty creative.  When I'm not constrained by space, power or heat, I opt for horsepower.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • K
                          kejianshi
                          last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 9:54 PM Aug 13, 2013, 9:48 PM

                          BTW - Gigabit NICs are are nice and I definitely like the pretty green color it turns my switch's lights, but gigabit ports doesn't equal gigabit throughput necessarily.  If you have some space, build something with a bit of CPU to spare  ;)

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • C
                            CaptainWTF
                            last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 9:54 PM

                            Well right now the machine I've got to play with is a 1.6ghz dual core AMD 350 APU machine w/ 4gb of ram.

                            Asrock e350m1 specifically.

                            I was looking into something like this potentially as well http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281150078955&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • K
                              kejianshi
                              last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:05 PM

                              The realtek 8111e on the Asrock might be a problem and the processor isn't going to give you blazing throughput.  Might be a headache.

                              The server is pretty big, but it will surely work one would think.

                              I might go a different way though if I were going to spend $200 or more.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • K
                                kejianshi
                                last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:20 PM

                                The advertisement for the server on ebay says dual core in the specs then quad core further down.  Which is correct?

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • C
                                  CaptainWTF
                                  last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:26 PM

                                  Yeah, I noticed that. I already messaged the seller for clarification… haha. I'll have to do some digging. Ill probably end up going for a server for it.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • K
                                    kejianshi
                                    last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:27 PM

                                    If its going to give you 8 or 16 threads, I like the server too.  You can put ESXi on it, use two cores for a pfsense and put a bunch other services on the remaining vCores.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • C
                                      CaptainWTF
                                      last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:49 PM

                                      if I had a new haswell machine i'd use my current rig on it with a 3960x, 12 threads :D

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • K
                                        kejianshi
                                        last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 10:58 PM

                                        I have a couple small VMs running here and there but my personal machines are all either quad or dual core.  (Thats the downside of being able to fix things well - Nothing breaks often - Nothing gets upgraded often).  The up-side of that is my pfsense here runs on a dual core AMD with no virtualization, my desktop is quad core no virtualization. Most everything here is single serving one user/purpose per machine and its super reliable.  I've done 8 core 16 thread installs for a few people and its nice and saves on power bill, but mine is way more reliable.  Most things run well, but the more I do it for others, the less I want pfsense on a VM for me.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • C
                                          CaptainWTF
                                          last edited by Aug 13, 2013, 11:01 PM

                                          Im not looking to get extreme speeds, I imagine my APU machine will have more throughput then my current router lol. Definitely more processing power.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          3 out of 38
                                          • First post
                                            3/38
                                            Last post
                                          Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.