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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      ^ exactly!  This would be normal common setup..

      If your "modem" (isp connection device) does not support bridge mode and you have to double nat - then ok, but you sure and the hell do not want to add a triple nat to the mix.  Your netgear should be used as just a Access Point.

      Then put wan of pfsense into the dmz of your isp device, and control your forwards at pfsense.

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        Azoic
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        Thanks, i am aware of how it's supposed to be, it's just not playing fair with me.
        I know it's a simple thing i have missed and am missing, but it's driving me around the bend….

        I wish i could have the WAP as a standalone, but even following the Netgear instructions on how to set it as one fails....this bloody thing will be the death of me.
        I'm sure i will figure it out one day, but right now it's beginning to piss me off.

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          kejianshi
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          Well - Do things in baby steps.

          Put the wireless router aside.  Get yourself a cat 5 cable.  Connect that to the LAN of pfsense and your computer. Directly connect your pfsesne WAN to the modem also.  Get that working.

          If you intend to have an OPT1 interface, create that and test it directly connected to your computer.  Get that working.

          Then when modem > pfsense is working perfectly, then add the wireless AP to the picture.

          In my opinion, currently, you can't know what is and is not working.

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            doktornotor Banned
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            And as for Netgear AP, there are tons of alternative much better firmwares, such as DD-WRT, Tomato or OpenWRT. Sadly, for your prehistoric model, the only way is to solder something better than the crappy 1MB chip on the board. Best dumped, frankly. Not worth the waste of time.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Yeah its not worth time and effort dicking with older wireless routers if you ask me.  I just picked up a tp-link dual band wdr3600 I believe is the model number for $42 to my door.

              Took all of 30 seconds to put dd-wrt on it.. And now got nice stable N both 2.4 and 5ghz AP – my old reliable wrt54gL was still working - but it was about time I moved to N.. only thing left that was g is my sons old laptop everything else is N.

              As to getting it to work as AP - what do they have you doing.. The thing already has a 192.168.1.1 address right, leave it at that change pfsense to say .254 and turn off netgear dhcp server = bing bang zoom accesspoint.  Just connect it to your switch or pfsense via the netgears LAN port..  Put some tape over the wan port on the netgear you have no use for it if using it as AP.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                If you have all three routers in line they must have different subnets between them. Did you try my earlier suggestion?

                Steve

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                  Azoic
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                  @stephenw10:

                  If you have all three routers in line they must have different subnets between them. Did you try my earlier suggestion?

                  Steve

                  Im not sure if i tried all the things everyone suggested so far, i haven't had time in the last couple of days to do much.
                  I've had family issues come up , and have had no time for network tinkering, especially when my server 2003 box died and i had to
                  spend time getting that fixed.
                  I haven't given up, i'm still tinkering, just a few minutes a day instead of the few hours i would normally have.

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                    Azoic
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                    @doktornotor:

                    And as for Netgear AP, there are tons of alternative much better firmwares, such as DD-WRT, Tomato or OpenWRT. Sadly, for your prehistoric model, the only way is to solder something better than the crappy 1MB chip on the board. Best dumped, frankly. Not worth the waste of time.

                    I know it's old, but once it's set-up. it is stable and does what i need, i rarely use the wireless, it's mainly inline to use it as a second switching device.
                    I will be buying a real switch soon, and an dedicated WAP device to replace the Netgear, but each time i save the money for it, something comes up that eats up the savings…
                    It's hard to save any cash with the house, car and 5 kids , especially as i'm on a pension.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      How long does it take to turn off the dhcp server?  That is ALL you have to do to turn that router into a accesspoint, and not use its wan/internet port to connect it to your network.

                      You have to uncheck 1 box, and connect it to your network via one of its lan ports vs its wan/internet and shazam its an AP

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                        Azoic
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                        @johnpoz:

                        How long does it take to turn off the dhcp server?  That is ALL you have to do to turn that router into a accesspoint, and not use its wan/internet port to connect it to your network.

                        You have to uncheck 1 box, and connect it to your network via one of its lan ports vs its wan/internet and shazam its an AP

                        I thank you for the post, but seriously, this thing is not a simple matter of unchecking a radio button….its a f**king nightmare this bloody thing, from day one it's been a son of a bitch.....i change one thing in it i can't access it...and have to reset to default...it's a feckin' nightmare....i swear.....but like i said, when i have the time to tinker i will, i have far more important things to think about this week, i have a funeral to organise now, and now a 16 month old grandchild just diagnosed with a hole in her heart. Damn firewall can wait.

                        The only reason i have replied to this post is to show i have read all, and am appreciating the assistance...when i can i will get back to the issue, but for now, it's of no importance.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          Dude I have no idea what you have done in the past - but I am telling you to turn ANY wireless router into an access point is simple disable of dhcp on the wireless router, and connect it via LAN port.  That is it.

                          I looked on your routers web ui via emulator and to disable dhcp all that is required is uncheck the enable box and click save..

                          I have done this on hundreds of wireless routers.. No matter the make, no matter the brand.  In your setup you don't even have to change the wireless routers lan IP..  Since its on the default network pfsense lan network defaults too.. All you have to do is change pfsense lan IP to not be 192.168.1.1 - make it 192.168.1.254 for example.  As long as you don't have something else already using 192.168.1.254 your ready to go.  Just connect in your wireless router via its LAN PORT to your pfsense lan inteface or a switch connected to your pfsense lan port already.  And you done!

                          If this takes you more than 30 seconds then your doing something wrong!

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                            Azoic
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                            @johnpoz:

                            Dude I have no idea what you have done in the past - but I am telling you to turn ANY wireless router into an access point is simple disable of dhcp on the wireless router, and connect it via LAN port.  That is it.

                            I looked on your routers web ui via emulator and to disable dhcp all that is required is uncheck the enable box and click save..

                            I have done this on hundreds of wireless routers.. No matter the make, no matter the brand.  In your setup you don't even have to change the wireless routers lan IP..  Since its on the default network pfsense lan network defaults too.. All you have to do is change pfsense lan IP to not be 192.168.1.1 - make it 192.168.1.254 for example.  As long as you don't have something else already using 192.168.1.254 your ready to go.  Just connect in your wireless router via its LAN PORT to your pfsense lan inteface or a switch connected to your pfsense lan port already.  And you done!

                            If this takes you more than 30 seconds then your doing something wrong!

                            I did that already and it did nothing, but somehow, its working now, i reset it to default, and suddenly it came up working.
                            Stupid thing is, i had done this a dozen or more times already.

                            Thanks to all who offered suggestions, everything is working now.

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                              kejianshi
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                              Even me?  :-\

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                What do you mean did nothing?  Its not suppose to really do anything - you just turned of its dhcp server.. Do you mean you turned it off and it was still running?

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                                  Azoic
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                                  @johnpoz:

                                  What do you mean did nothing?  Its not suppose to really do anything - you just turned of its dhcp server.. Do you mean you turned it off and it was still running?

                                  Sorry bad explanation on my part, i meant i did all the things you suggested, and it didn't fix the problem.
                                  I did however get the pf box up and running, it turned out it was a simple fix, the DHCP server in the modem didn't turn off
                                  when i first unchecked it. I rebooted the modem and DHCP and the SPI firewall in the modem were still turned on,
                                  i turned them off again, resaved the cfg file for the modem, rebooted and it came up with both SPI and DHCP turned off
                                  and the pf box was working fine with default install settings. so now it's all good.

                                  Thanks again to ALL who offered idea's and suggestion's.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    where did I say anything about turning off anything in your "modem"

                                    I am glad you feel you have your system up and running - I did not tell you to do ANYTHING with your modem, if you were playing with that you were not following instructions given.  I gave you a screen shot of your netgear for gosh sake..

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                                      Azoic
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                                      @johnpoz:

                                      where did I say anything about turning off anything in your "modem"

                                      I am glad you feel you have your system up and running - I did not tell you to do ANYTHING with your modem, if you were playing with that you were not following instructions given.  I gave you a screen shot of your netgear for gosh sake..

                                      Sorry didn't mean to offend John, i wasn't saying you told me to do anything to the Modem.
                                      All i was saying was with all i tried, nothing worked…..but it was ALL MY FAULT ---- my Modem settings
                                      were the cause of all my issues. It was the DHCP and SPI Firewall settings in the Modem that were giving me
                                      headaches. IT WAS NOT ANY OF THE ADVICE.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        I wouldn't worry about offending johnpoz, I'm sure he can take it!  ;D

                                        It can be frustrating when people don't appear to be following instruction. However in this thread there were many instructions from many people. I stopped posting because it was just confusing matters. Glad you got it sorted.  :)

                                        Steve

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