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    • stan-qazS
      stan-qaz
      last edited by

      I noticed this addition here:  http://blog.pfsense.org/?p=712 and the settings for it on my pfSense box here: pfsense/system_advanced_misc.php

      Added a manual way to enable TRIM if someone needs it

      Is that the method described here:  https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/2319

      
      This can now be set manually after the install on 2.1.
      
      touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot
      
      to remove
      
      touch /root/TRIM_unset; /etc/rc.reboot
      
      

      Or did I miss something in the web interface to set it?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        It's non-gui only at the moment, you have the correct code there AFAIK. I guess if enough people are using it the devs will add it since it looks like a trivial option. Looks can be deceiving however.  ;)

        Steve

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          Sn3ak
          last edited by

          It's not sufficient to use the steps mentioned above. You also need to be using the ahci module, unless something changed in a later snap.

          see: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63656.0.html

           add ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local 
          

          See #20 for a way to convert you to ufslabels so that changing from ad* to ada* doesn't break your boot.

          
          The AHCI module should be included in snapshots now (I just updated a VM and checked, it's there).
          
          Also look at /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh - that would eliminate the need to make any fstab edits.
          
          Too late for 2.1 to grow an installer option for it, but perhaps for 2.2.
          
          
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          • J
            jeppe67
            last edited by

            It´s very simple to add TRIM to SSD disks now, it´s just hard to find out how in the first place.
            Here´s what I did today:
            Login with SSH and open the shell.
            Run /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh
            Add the line ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local
            reboot the machine
            Login with SSH and open the shell
            touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot

            Once the machine has rebooted check the status with: tunefs -p /
            [2.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.hemma]/root(1): tunefs -p /
            tunefs: POSIX.1e ACLs: (-a)                                disabled
            tunefs: NFSv4 ACLs: (-N)                                  disabled
            tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l)                              disabled
            tunefs: soft updates: (-n)                                disabled
            tunefs: gjournal: (-J)                                    disabled
            tunefs: trim: (-t)                                        enabled
            tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e)  2048
            tunefs: average file size: (-f)                            16384
            tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s)      64
            tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m)            8%
            tunefs: optimization preference: (-o)                      time
            tunefs: volume label: (-L)

            All done I guess

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            • J
              jasonlitka
              last edited by

              @Sn3ak:

              It's not sufficient to use the steps mentioned above. You also need to be using the ahci module, unless something changed in a later snap.

              see: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63656.0.html

               add ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local 
              

              See #20 for a way to convert you to ufslabels so that changing from ad* to ada* doesn't break your boot.

               
              The AHCI module should be included in snapshots now (I just updated a VM and checked, it's there).
              
              Also look at /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh - that would eliminate the need to make any fstab edits.
              
              Too late for 2.1 to grow an installer option for it, but perhaps for 2.2.
              
              

              My tunefs shows trim enabled without anything but the command in the first post.

              I can break anything.

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              • stan-qazS
                stan-qaz
                last edited by

                I'm seeing the trim not enabled warning in my dmesg output.

                I'm hesitant to break my pfSense box by poking at things I don't really understand and looking at the other topic I'm not seeing disk labels like they are discussing. Mine are /dev/ad12sla and /dev/ad12slb will the conversion script deal with these properly?

                Adding to me hesitation, what impact will this have for the next update, will I have to find this info and make the changes again? If I do an update with this in place will it break my box?

                Is enabling trim worth the risk of making these changes?

                I really wish I had an SSD in my test box, that would be less scary than running these on my live system.

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                • R
                  rjcrowder
                  last edited by

                  Above steps worked fine for me… on two different boxes.

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                  • K
                    kejianshi
                    last edited by

                    stan-qaz - I think it really depends on the SSD.

                    Oddly enough, if you get a 2008/2009ish SLC SSD which run about $50 on ebay, those work well without incident for me (so far) without TRIM.

                    If you get a 2010/2011ish MLC SSD without TRIM, you might get trouble in short order.

                    If you get a newer 2013ish small MLC SSD with a newer sandforce controller and newer highly durable garbage collection you again would probably be OK.  (According to specs anyway)

                    In all scenarios with MLC, your are far better off with TRIM than without.

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                    • stan-qazS
                      stan-qaz
                      last edited by

                      I ran the  command and got the following, the "swapoff invalid" argument is worrisome. I'm not feeling really confident so I did a backup of my original fstab in hopes that if I need it I can somehow replace it.

                      [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfsense.home]/root(6): /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh                                                                                                          
                      FS: / on device ad12s1a with ufsid 50f89405e017f40f                                                                                                                             
                      FS: Swap on device ad12s1b                                                                                                                                                      
                      ====================                                                                                                                                                            
                      Current fstab:                                                                                                                                                                  
                      # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#                                                                                                   
                      /dev/ad12s1a            /               ufs     rw,noatime              1       1                                                                                               
                      /dev/ad12s1b            none            swap    sw              0       0                                                                                                       
                      ====================                                                                                                                                                            
                      New fstab:                                                                                                                                                                      
                      # Device                Mountpoint      FStype  Options         Dump    Pass#                                                                                                   
                      /dev/ufsid/50f89405e017f40f             /               ufs     rw,noatime              1       1                                                                               
                      /dev/label/swap         none            swap    sw              0       0                                                                                                       
                      Commit changes? (y/n):                                                                                                                                                          
                      y                                                                                                                                                                               
                      Disabling swap to apply label                                                                                                                                                   
                      swapoff: /dev/ad12s1b: Invalid argument                                                                                                                                         
                      Applying label to swap parition                                                                                                                                                 
                      Activating new fstab                                                                                                                                                            
                      Re-enabling swap 
                      

                      Added the load module line and I'm going to reboot once I've downloaded the 2.1 boot CD.

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                      • stan-qazS
                        stan-qaz
                        last edited by

                        It seems to have worked, no obvious error messages. My dmesg output for the SSD is now looking like this:

                        
                        ada0 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0                                                                                                                                     
                        ada0: <m4-ct064m4ssd2 040h="">ATA-9 SATA 3.x device                                                                                                                               
                        ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes)                                                                                                                    
                        ada0: Command Queueing enabled                                                                                                                                                  
                        ada0: 61057MB (125045424 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)</m4-ct064m4ssd2> 
                        

                        I'll print out a cheat sheet for this just in case. :-)

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                        • T
                          Taigar
                          last edited by

                          @Sn3ak:

                          It's not sufficient to use the steps mentioned above. You also need to be using the ahci module, unless something changed in a later snap.

                          see: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63656.0.html

                           add ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local 
                          

                          See #20 for a way to convert you to ufslabels so that changing from ad* to ada* doesn't break your boot.

                           
                          The AHCI module should be included in snapshots now (I just updated a VM and checked, it's there).
                          
                          Also look at /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh - that would eliminate the need to make any fstab edits.
                          
                          Too late for 2.1 to grow an installer option for it, but perhaps for 2.2.
                          
                          

                          I don't know if I have to start a new topic, or can reply here.

                          I also am trying to enable TRIM, and tried the following steps

                          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63656.msg344604.html#msg344604

                          But I don't understand step 6.

                          When I reboot the system, I can choose to escape to loader prompt by pressing '7'

                          Is that correct or do I have to do something else?
                          Do I even need to do all those steps?

                          My motherboard is Supermicro X7SP-HF-D525 and I am using an Intel 320 series SSD.

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                            MediocreFred
                            last edited by

                            Thanks very much for consolidating all of the steps into one easily followable list! Worked perfectly!

                            @jeppe67:

                            It´s very simple to add TRIM to SSD disks now, it´s just hard to find out how in the first place.
                            Here´s what I did today:
                            Login with SSH and open the shell.
                            Run /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh
                            Add the line ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local
                            reboot the machine
                            Login with SSH and open the shell
                            touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot

                            Once the machine has rebooted check the status with: tunefs -p /
                            [2.1-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.hemma]/root(1): tunefs -p /
                            tunefs: POSIX.1e ACLs: (-a)                                disabled
                            tunefs: NFSv4 ACLs: (-N)                                  disabled
                            tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l)                              disabled
                            tunefs: soft updates: (-n)                                disabled
                            tunefs: gjournal: (-J)                                    disabled
                            tunefs: trim: (-t)                                        enabled
                            tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e)  2048
                            tunefs: average file size: (-f)                            16384
                            tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s)      64
                            tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m)            8%
                            tunefs: optimization preference: (-o)                      time
                            tunefs: volume label: (-L)

                            All done I guess

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                            • R
                              Ramosel
                              last edited by

                              Had to go back and re-read some of these posts regarding "Trim" to answer a question for a friend.

                              Any chance this (TRIM_set) will become an advanced system setup checkbox on an upcoming release??  I mean SSDs are becoming "de rigueur" and the release of FreeBSD now being employed does support the Trim command.  I'll ask nicely…. PLEASE?

                              edit:  I'll be greedy while I'm asking...  also have it be an installation setup option?

                              Rick

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                              • H
                                Hugovsky
                                last edited by

                                @Jason:

                                @Sn3ak:

                                It's not sufficient to use the steps mentioned above. You also need to be using the ahci module, unless something changed in a later snap.

                                see: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63656.0.html

                                 add ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local 
                                

                                See #20 for a way to convert you to ufslabels so that changing from ad* to ada* doesn't break your boot.

                                 
                                The AHCI module should be included in snapshots now (I just updated a VM and checked, it's there).
                                
                                Also look at /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh - that would eliminate the need to make any fstab edits.
                                
                                Too late for 2.1 to grow an installer option for it, but perhaps for 2.2.
                                
                                

                                My tunefs shows trim enabled without anything but the command in the first post.

                                Exactly the same to me. Disk used:

                                Model Family:    SandForce Driven SSDs
                                Device Model:    KINGSTON SV300S37A60G

                                2.1-RELEASE (amd64)
                                built on Wed Sep 11 18:17:34 EDT 2013
                                FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p11

                                Platform: nanobsd (4g)

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                                • J
                                  jideel
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello,
                                  I managed to enable TRIM on a Samsung 840 Pro SSD, but not so simply.
                                  The appliance used is a Teak 5020. By default AHCI is not enabled in the bios, and i used ufslabels.sh before enabling AHCI in the bios.
                                  After, ufsid was set but the TRIM_set trick was not working.
                                  I enabled AHCI, rebooted, then after started in single user mode, issued '/sbin/mount', and then "/sbin/tunefs -t enable /dev/ufsid/533f10e87e412553" (adapt with your own ufsid).
                                  Then "./tunefs -p /" returns well "tunefs: trim: (-t)      enabled".
                                  However "camcontrol identity ada0" does not show that TRIM is enabled :
                                  "data set management (TRIM)    yes    [empty]"
                                  Any idea ?
                                  Thank you

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                                    cfipilot
                                    last edited by

                                    I also have a samsung SSD and i cant enable trim.  Using the latest pfsense 2.1.4

                                    Please help

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      What have you tried? What was the result? What board is it connected to?

                                      Steve

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                                      • C
                                        cfipilot
                                        last edited by

                                        added the following

                                        Login with SSH or locally and open a shell
                                        Run /usr/local/sbin/ufslabels.sh
                                        Add ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf.local
                                        Reboot

                                        touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot

                                        When i try to boot in single user mode i get a kernel panic.

                                        Hardware
                                        Supermicro SuperServer 5018A-FTN4 with 16GB ECC ram. 
                                        Samsung pro 120GB SSD.

                                        pfsense 2.1.4

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Did you set the SATA controller to AHCI mode in the BIOS?

                                          Steve

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                                          • Z
                                            zimba
                                            last edited by

                                            You may try this instead in single user mode:

                                            /sbin/tunefs -t enable /

                                            After that reboot and then run tunefs -p /

                                            The touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot has been removed in the newer version.

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