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    • _Adrian__
      _Adrian_
      last edited by

      My buddy has a handful of these on the shelf :

      "F5 NETWORKS BIG IP 1500 200-0138-02 LOCAL TRAFFIC MANAGER LOAD BALANCER

      This unit is being sold As-Is due to missing software. The unit boots, but ends up in a boot loop, due to hard-drive being wiped clean.

      Unit is equipped with 80GB WD Hard Drive. 4 Sticks of 512MB DDR memory, 128MB Flash and Channel Well PSG300C-80 Power Supply. etc "

      @Boot:

      System is booting, please wait…
      Press Ctrl-c to stop autoboot:  0
      kernel.core_uses_pid = 0
      kernel.core_pattern = /var/core/%e.sccp.core

      Host Console Shell --- Press <esc>( for command menu.

      PXELINUX/F5 HSIBJ 3.07  Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin
      Booting from local disk...

      PXELINUX/F5 HSIBJ 3.07  Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin
      Booting from local disk...

      PXELINUX/F5 HSIBJ 3.07  Copyright (C) 1994-2005 H. Peter Anvin
      Booting from local disk...

      etc...

      etc.........</esc>

      Almost wondering if that front board will accept DD-WRT or Open-WRT and with pfSense behind it it would make a hella team :)

      If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Yep that's a weird box!
        I can find only two pictures of it open, including the one you posted, and in both it has nothing in the CF slot. Presumably it needs something there to boot the front board and you spec states 128MB flash. I would bet that front board is not X86 so, yes, you'd have to go OpenWRT or roll your own FreeBSD for whatever architecture it is.
        The back board looks like a standard of the shelf motherboard with none of the backplate connectors exposed. It has VGA so I'm sure you could boot that part easily enough.

        Do you have any specs for the original boxes performance? That would give you some idea of what contribution the front board may have been making. Did it use some custom ASICS to get multi gigabit throughput for example.

        Steve

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        • _Adrian__
          _Adrian_
          last edited by

          @stephenw10:

          Yep that's a weird box!
          I can find only two pictures of it open, including the one you posted, and in both it has nothing in the CF slot. Presumably it needs something there to boot the front board and you spec states 128MB flash. I would bet that front board is not X86 so, yes, you'd have to go OpenWRT or roll your own FreeBSD for whatever architecture it is.
          The back board looks like a standard of the shelf motherboard with none of the backplate connectors exposed. It has VGA so I'm sure you could boot that part easily enough.

          Do you have any specs for the original boxes performance? That would give you some idea of what contribution the front board may have been making. Did it use some custom ASICS to get multi gigabit throughput for example.

          Steve

          This might help… but this is mainly what i have found so far...

          This F5 LTM bigip 1500 unit has:
              500 Mbps of Throughput
              4 - gigabit (10/100/1000) copper ports
              100 TPS SSL Hardware Acceleration
              5 MBPS COMPRESSION
              F5 OS v9

          Server/Node Operating System Compatibility: Load balancing of any TCP/IP OS, including Windows NT, Windows 95, all UNIX platforms and Mac/OS

          Internet/Intranet Protocol Support: All TCP services, UDP, SIP and SSL; nearly all IP-based protocols

          Administrative Environment Support: DNS proxy, SMTP, F-secure SSH, SNMP, dynamic/static network monitoring, scheduled batch job processing, system status reports and alarms event notification

          Network Management & Monitoring: Secure SSL browser-based interface, remote encrypted login and file transfer using F-secure SSH monitor, BIG-IP system network monitoring utilities and additional contributed software; SNMP gets and traps.

          Dynamic Content Support: ASP (active server pages),VB (visual basic script), ActiveX, JAVA,VRML, CGI, Cool Talk, Net Meeting, Real Audio, Real Video, Netshow, Quick Time, PointCast, any HTTP encapsulated data

          BIG-IP LTM Device Redundancy: Watchdog timer card, fail-safe cable (primary & secondary)

          Web Server Application Compatibility: Any IP-based web or application server

          If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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          • _Adrian__
            _Adrian_
            last edited by

            Also found this…

            Here's the output from bigpipe version:

            Kernel:
            Linux 2.4.21-9.4.4.65.0smp
            Package:
            BIG-IP Version 9.4.4 65.1
            Final Edition

            Enabled Features:
            QoS and ToS Tagging                   
            Connection Limits                     
            OneConnect - Switching and Pooling   
            Connection Rebinding                 
            Connection Timeout                   
            Route Pool                           
            Last Hop Pool                         
            Active Active                         
            Failover                             
            Pool Min Up Members                   
            State Mirroring                       
            VLAN Failsafe                         
            HTTP traffic classifier               
            iSNAT - Rules Referencing SNAT Pools 
            Basic Load Balancing                 
            Dynamic Ratio Load Balancing         
            Fastest Load Balancing               
            L3 Addr Load Balancing               
            Least Connection Load Balancing       
            Least Sessions Load Balancing         
            Observed Load Balancing               
            LB Pools Maximum Nodes unlimited     
            Predictive Load Balancing             
            Priority Load Balancing               
            Ratio Load Balancing                 
            Round Robin Load Balancing           
            UDP Packet Load Balancing             
            Web Logic Load Balancing             
            EAV Monitor                           
            FTP Monitor                           
            gateway ICMP Monitor                 
            HTTP Monitor                         
            HTTPS Monitor                         
            ICMP Monitor                         
            IMAP Monitor                         
            LDAP Monitor                         
            LDAP Over SSL Monitor                 
            Microsoft SQL Monitor                 
            NNTP Monitor                         
            Oracle Monitor                       
            POP3 Monitor                         
            RADIUS Monitor                       
            RealN Monitor                         
            Reverse Keyword                       
            RPC Monitor                           
            Monitor Rules                         
            SASP Monitor                         
            SCRIPTED Monitor                     
            SIP Monitor                           
            SMB Monitor                           
            SMTP Monitor                         
            SNMP Monitor                         
            Soap Monitor                         
            TCP Monitor                           
            TCP Echo Monitor                     
            TCP Half Open Monitor                 
            Transparent Device Monitor           
            UDP Monitor                           
            WAP Monitor                           
            WMI Monitor                           
            Monitors                             
            Network Address Translation           
            Persistence                           
            Cookie Persistence                   
            Simple Persistence                   
            SIP Persistence                       
            SSL Session ID Persistence           
            Sticky Persistence                   
            Universal Persistence                 
            WTS Persistence                       
            Pools                                 
            HTTP Content Transformation           
            Fast L4                               
            FTP                                   
            HTTP Header Transformation           
            HTTP                                 
            Probe Control - IDS Traffic Management
            HTTP Redirection                     
            SIP                                   
            TCP                                   
            UDP                                   
            RTSP switching                       
            L4 iRules                             
            L7 iRules                             
            User-Defined Statistics               
            iRules                               
            SCTP support                         
            SNAT Standard                         
            Address Translation                   
            Port Translation                     
            Transparent Device Load Balancing     
            Local Traffic Manager                 
            Interface Mirroring                   
            Spanning Tree Protocol               
            PVA Enable                           
            SSL Mbps 4000                         
            SSL Total TPS 100                     
            HTTP Compression 5                   
            SSL client certificate authorization via LDAP
            DDoS Connection Limits               
            Dynamic Connection Reaping           
            Packet Filter                         
            SYN Check                             
            SSL Support

            Also found out that they update the switch card control processor (SCCP) manually.
            As of yet I have no clue whats on the drive… time to dig deeper and check out the OpenWRT forums :)

            If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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            • _Adrian__
              _Adrian_
              last edited by

              Also found this…
              @F5:

              The SCCP is a separate subsystem that controls the F5 switch hardware. The following examples include ways you can use the SCCP:

              Change the system boot device
                  Halt or reboot the system
                  Perform a number of other specialized tasks that F5 Technical Support may request when troubleshooting your system

              Warning: Some SCCP options can cause damage to your system. Do not use any SCCP option unless you are specifically instructed to do so in an AskF5 article or by an F5 Technical Support Engineer.

              Accessing SCCP through secure shell (SSH)

              Note:  By default, the SCCP is not configured to allow access through SSH from the network. To enable SCCP access from the network using SSH, refer to SOL3753: Configuring the switch card control processor (SCCP) so that it can be accessed over the network.

              You can access the SCCP from the command line when you are connected directly to the console port or remotely through SSH.

              Log in to the command line of the BIG-IP system.
                  Connect through SSH to the SCCP by typing the following command:

              ssh sccp
                  An sccp# prompt displays appearing similar to the following example:

              Last login: Mon Jan 01 01:23:45 2006 from host
                  Welcome to the F5Networks SCCP!
                  sccp#
                  Enter the SCCP Host Console Shell by typing the following command:

              hostconsh
                  The output appears similar to the following example:

              [hostconsh] Attempting to acquire the host processor console…
                  Host Console Shell --- Press <esc>( for command menu.
                  Display the SCCP menu by pressing the ESC key once, then press and hold down the SHIFT key while pressing the 9 key.

              The SCCP menu appears similar to the following example:

              [hostconsh] Command Menu:
                  1 –- Connect to Host subsystem console
                  2 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: boot from local drive
                  3 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from SCCP
                  4 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from external server
                  5 --- Reboot Host subsystem (sends reboot command)
                  6 --- Halt  Host subsystem (sends halt command)
                  7 --- Reset  Host subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
                  8 --- Reboot SCCP subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
                  9 --- Halt  SCCP subsystem (issues hardware shutdown--USE WITH CARE!)
                  Q --- Exit Host subsystem console shell
                  [hostconsh] Enter command:

              Important: This menu selection is limited; for a full menu selection, you can access the SCCP menu from the console.
                  Either select the desired SCCP menu item or exit the menu by pressing the q key and then pressing the y key to confirm exit. You return to the SCCP sccp# prompt.
                  Exit the SCCP by typing the following command:

              exit

              Accessing SCCP from the console

              Note: You are not required to log in at the console prompt for the following procedure.

              From the console, display the SCCP menu by pressing the ESC key once, then press and hold down the SHIFT key while pressing the 9 key.

              You see output that appears similar to the following example:

              [hostconsh] Command Menu:
                  1 –- Connect to Host subsystem console
                  2 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: boot from local drive
                  3 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from SCCP
                  4 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from external server
                  5 --- Reboot Host subsystem (sends reboot command)
                  6 --- Halt Host subsystem (sends halt command)
                  7 --- Reset Host subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
                  8 --- Reboot SCCP subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
                  9 --- Halt SCCP subsystem (issues hardware shutdown--USE WITH CARE!)
                  B --- SCCP baud rate configurator
                  L --- SCCP login
                  N --- SCCP network configurator
                  [hostconsh] Enter command:

              Important: When you access the SCCP through the console, the SCCP menu contains additional selections that were not provided on the menu when you accessed the SCCP through SSH.

              Select the desired SCCP menu item, or type 1 to exit the menu.

              If you select 1 to exit, you see output that appears similar to the following example:

              Host Console Shell –- Press <esc>( for command menu.
                  Press the Enter key to return to the console prompt.

              Displaying SCCP version information

              To display the SCCP version information, connect to the SCCP using one of the methods described above, and type the following command:

              uname -a</esc></esc>

              Also after a bit of digging it looks like the card in the picture is a Broadcom SSL Crypto card…

              If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                So it looks like there's a good chance you can just use the switch board as is and run pfSense on the rear board. It looks to be connected via serial internally (the black braided cable) as well as via ethernet. Of course you'll need a good grasp on how it's configured and how it can be changed.
                The crypto card may be supported by the ubsec(4) driver.

                Steve

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                • _Adrian__
                  _Adrian_
                  last edited by

                  Good thing i have a decent IP-KVM and can use one of these…

                  hidden inside the case and adding 2 of those neutrik case connector ( one for WAN and one for KVM ) at the back

                  I think I'm going to pull the trigger and see what can I get out of this box :P

                  If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Don't spend too much, you could end up with a massive paper weight if you can't get the front board to play nicely. Also even if you can the whole box working the performance is never going to be anything special with that single Celeron.

                    Steve

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                      Darkk
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10:

                      Don't spend too much, you could end up with a massive paper weight if you can't get the front board to play nicely. Also even if you can the whole box working the performance is never going to be anything special with that single Celeron.

                      Steve

                      It looks like a standard motherboard in the back so if performance is an issue he could just swap the board out with something a bit newer.  Very odd set up but it does have some advantages.  Mainly able to swap out the motherboard.

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                      • _Adrian__
                        _Adrian_
                        last edited by

                        I think I see some SATA connectors at behind the last PCI slot…

                        BUT...
                        with that being said I didnt have one open, I just posted an image off the net.
                        Ther are roughly going for $50 plus shipping on ebay.

                        I'm looking for something like a firebox.
                        Whats your guys take on the XTM810 ?

                        Then I can actually use the DL380 for MS Exchange and free up my DL360 and let it handle DNS/DHCP/AD instead of running pfSense.

                        If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          The XTM8 series are nice boxes. There is a gotcha with the install because the serial console port is actually com2 and Nano is hard coded to use com1. It all detailed in the XTM8 thread.

                          Steve

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                            TeknikL
                            last edited by

                            Did you try to boot the pfsense cd with a usb cdrom?

                            I have a Bigip 6400 and it boots off the disc, trying with a nanobsd serial console version now… will update.

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