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    • _Adrian__
      _Adrian_
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      Yep that's a weird box!
      I can find only two pictures of it open, including the one you posted, and in both it has nothing in the CF slot. Presumably it needs something there to boot the front board and you spec states 128MB flash. I would bet that front board is not X86 so, yes, you'd have to go OpenWRT or roll your own FreeBSD for whatever architecture it is.
      The back board looks like a standard of the shelf motherboard with none of the backplate connectors exposed. It has VGA so I'm sure you could boot that part easily enough.

      Do you have any specs for the original boxes performance? That would give you some idea of what contribution the front board may have been making. Did it use some custom ASICS to get multi gigabit throughput for example.

      Steve

      This might help… but this is mainly what i have found so far...

      This F5 LTM bigip 1500 unit has:
          500 Mbps of Throughput
          4 - gigabit (10/100/1000) copper ports
          100 TPS SSL Hardware Acceleration
          5 MBPS COMPRESSION
          F5 OS v9

      Server/Node Operating System Compatibility: Load balancing of any TCP/IP OS, including Windows NT, Windows 95, all UNIX platforms and Mac/OS

      Internet/Intranet Protocol Support: All TCP services, UDP, SIP and SSL; nearly all IP-based protocols

      Administrative Environment Support: DNS proxy, SMTP, F-secure SSH, SNMP, dynamic/static network monitoring, scheduled batch job processing, system status reports and alarms event notification

      Network Management & Monitoring: Secure SSL browser-based interface, remote encrypted login and file transfer using F-secure SSH monitor, BIG-IP system network monitoring utilities and additional contributed software; SNMP gets and traps.

      Dynamic Content Support: ASP (active server pages),VB (visual basic script), ActiveX, JAVA,VRML, CGI, Cool Talk, Net Meeting, Real Audio, Real Video, Netshow, Quick Time, PointCast, any HTTP encapsulated data

      BIG-IP LTM Device Redundancy: Watchdog timer card, fail-safe cable (primary & secondary)

      Web Server Application Compatibility: Any IP-based web or application server

      If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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      • _Adrian__
        _Adrian_
        last edited by

        Also found this…

        Here's the output from bigpipe version:

        Kernel:
        Linux 2.4.21-9.4.4.65.0smp
        Package:
        BIG-IP Version 9.4.4 65.1
        Final Edition

        Enabled Features:
        QoS and ToS Tagging                   
        Connection Limits                     
        OneConnect - Switching and Pooling   
        Connection Rebinding                 
        Connection Timeout                   
        Route Pool                           
        Last Hop Pool                         
        Active Active                         
        Failover                             
        Pool Min Up Members                   
        State Mirroring                       
        VLAN Failsafe                         
        HTTP traffic classifier               
        iSNAT - Rules Referencing SNAT Pools 
        Basic Load Balancing                 
        Dynamic Ratio Load Balancing         
        Fastest Load Balancing               
        L3 Addr Load Balancing               
        Least Connection Load Balancing       
        Least Sessions Load Balancing         
        Observed Load Balancing               
        LB Pools Maximum Nodes unlimited     
        Predictive Load Balancing             
        Priority Load Balancing               
        Ratio Load Balancing                 
        Round Robin Load Balancing           
        UDP Packet Load Balancing             
        Web Logic Load Balancing             
        EAV Monitor                           
        FTP Monitor                           
        gateway ICMP Monitor                 
        HTTP Monitor                         
        HTTPS Monitor                         
        ICMP Monitor                         
        IMAP Monitor                         
        LDAP Monitor                         
        LDAP Over SSL Monitor                 
        Microsoft SQL Monitor                 
        NNTP Monitor                         
        Oracle Monitor                       
        POP3 Monitor                         
        RADIUS Monitor                       
        RealN Monitor                         
        Reverse Keyword                       
        RPC Monitor                           
        Monitor Rules                         
        SASP Monitor                         
        SCRIPTED Monitor                     
        SIP Monitor                           
        SMB Monitor                           
        SMTP Monitor                         
        SNMP Monitor                         
        Soap Monitor                         
        TCP Monitor                           
        TCP Echo Monitor                     
        TCP Half Open Monitor                 
        Transparent Device Monitor           
        UDP Monitor                           
        WAP Monitor                           
        WMI Monitor                           
        Monitors                             
        Network Address Translation           
        Persistence                           
        Cookie Persistence                   
        Simple Persistence                   
        SIP Persistence                       
        SSL Session ID Persistence           
        Sticky Persistence                   
        Universal Persistence                 
        WTS Persistence                       
        Pools                                 
        HTTP Content Transformation           
        Fast L4                               
        FTP                                   
        HTTP Header Transformation           
        HTTP                                 
        Probe Control - IDS Traffic Management
        HTTP Redirection                     
        SIP                                   
        TCP                                   
        UDP                                   
        RTSP switching                       
        L4 iRules                             
        L7 iRules                             
        User-Defined Statistics               
        iRules                               
        SCTP support                         
        SNAT Standard                         
        Address Translation                   
        Port Translation                     
        Transparent Device Load Balancing     
        Local Traffic Manager                 
        Interface Mirroring                   
        Spanning Tree Protocol               
        PVA Enable                           
        SSL Mbps 4000                         
        SSL Total TPS 100                     
        HTTP Compression 5                   
        SSL client certificate authorization via LDAP
        DDoS Connection Limits               
        Dynamic Connection Reaping           
        Packet Filter                         
        SYN Check                             
        SSL Support

        Also found out that they update the switch card control processor (SCCP) manually.
        As of yet I have no clue whats on the drive… time to dig deeper and check out the OpenWRT forums :)

        If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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        • _Adrian__
          _Adrian_
          last edited by

          Also found this…
          @F5:

          The SCCP is a separate subsystem that controls the F5 switch hardware. The following examples include ways you can use the SCCP:

          Change the system boot device
              Halt or reboot the system
              Perform a number of other specialized tasks that F5 Technical Support may request when troubleshooting your system

          Warning: Some SCCP options can cause damage to your system. Do not use any SCCP option unless you are specifically instructed to do so in an AskF5 article or by an F5 Technical Support Engineer.

          Accessing SCCP through secure shell (SSH)

          Note:  By default, the SCCP is not configured to allow access through SSH from the network. To enable SCCP access from the network using SSH, refer to SOL3753: Configuring the switch card control processor (SCCP) so that it can be accessed over the network.

          You can access the SCCP from the command line when you are connected directly to the console port or remotely through SSH.

          Log in to the command line of the BIG-IP system.
              Connect through SSH to the SCCP by typing the following command:

          ssh sccp
              An sccp# prompt displays appearing similar to the following example:

          Last login: Mon Jan 01 01:23:45 2006 from host
              Welcome to the F5Networks SCCP!
              sccp#
              Enter the SCCP Host Console Shell by typing the following command:

          hostconsh
              The output appears similar to the following example:

          [hostconsh] Attempting to acquire the host processor console…
              Host Console Shell --- Press <esc>( for command menu.
              Display the SCCP menu by pressing the ESC key once, then press and hold down the SHIFT key while pressing the 9 key.

          The SCCP menu appears similar to the following example:

          [hostconsh] Command Menu:
              1 –- Connect to Host subsystem console
              2 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: boot from local drive
              3 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from SCCP
              4 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from external server
              5 --- Reboot Host subsystem (sends reboot command)
              6 --- Halt  Host subsystem (sends halt command)
              7 --- Reset  Host subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
              8 --- Reboot SCCP subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
              9 --- Halt  SCCP subsystem (issues hardware shutdown--USE WITH CARE!)
              Q --- Exit Host subsystem console shell
              [hostconsh] Enter command:

          Important: This menu selection is limited; for a full menu selection, you can access the SCCP menu from the console.
              Either select the desired SCCP menu item or exit the menu by pressing the q key and then pressing the y key to confirm exit. You return to the SCCP sccp# prompt.
              Exit the SCCP by typing the following command:

          exit

          Accessing SCCP from the console

          Note: You are not required to log in at the console prompt for the following procedure.

          From the console, display the SCCP menu by pressing the ESC key once, then press and hold down the SHIFT key while pressing the 9 key.

          You see output that appears similar to the following example:

          [hostconsh] Command Menu:
              1 –- Connect to Host subsystem console
              2 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: boot from local drive
              3 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from SCCP
              4 --- Select Host subsystem boot mode: netboot from external server
              5 --- Reboot Host subsystem (sends reboot command)
              6 --- Halt Host subsystem (sends halt command)
              7 --- Reset Host subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
              8 --- Reboot SCCP subsystem (issues hardware reset--USE WITH CARE!)
              9 --- Halt SCCP subsystem (issues hardware shutdown--USE WITH CARE!)
              B --- SCCP baud rate configurator
              L --- SCCP login
              N --- SCCP network configurator
              [hostconsh] Enter command:

          Important: When you access the SCCP through the console, the SCCP menu contains additional selections that were not provided on the menu when you accessed the SCCP through SSH.

          Select the desired SCCP menu item, or type 1 to exit the menu.

          If you select 1 to exit, you see output that appears similar to the following example:

          Host Console Shell –- Press <esc>( for command menu.
              Press the Enter key to return to the console prompt.

          Displaying SCCP version information

          To display the SCCP version information, connect to the SCCP using one of the methods described above, and type the following command:

          uname -a</esc></esc>

          Also after a bit of digging it looks like the card in the picture is a Broadcom SSL Crypto card…

          If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            So it looks like there's a good chance you can just use the switch board as is and run pfSense on the rear board. It looks to be connected via serial internally (the black braided cable) as well as via ethernet. Of course you'll need a good grasp on how it's configured and how it can be changed.
            The crypto card may be supported by the ubsec(4) driver.

            Steve

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            • _Adrian__
              _Adrian_
              last edited by

              Good thing i have a decent IP-KVM and can use one of these…

              hidden inside the case and adding 2 of those neutrik case connector ( one for WAN and one for KVM ) at the back

              I think I'm going to pull the trigger and see what can I get out of this box :P

              If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Don't spend too much, you could end up with a massive paper weight if you can't get the front board to play nicely. Also even if you can the whole box working the performance is never going to be anything special with that single Celeron.

                Steve

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                  Darkk
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10:

                  Don't spend too much, you could end up with a massive paper weight if you can't get the front board to play nicely. Also even if you can the whole box working the performance is never going to be anything special with that single Celeron.

                  Steve

                  It looks like a standard motherboard in the back so if performance is an issue he could just swap the board out with something a bit newer.  Very odd set up but it does have some advantages.  Mainly able to swap out the motherboard.

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                  • _Adrian__
                    _Adrian_
                    last edited by

                    I think I see some SATA connectors at behind the last PCI slot…

                    BUT...
                    with that being said I didnt have one open, I just posted an image off the net.
                    Ther are roughly going for $50 plus shipping on ebay.

                    I'm looking for something like a firebox.
                    Whats your guys take on the XTM810 ?

                    Then I can actually use the DL380 for MS Exchange and free up my DL360 and let it handle DNS/DHCP/AD instead of running pfSense.

                    If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      The XTM8 series are nice boxes. There is a gotcha with the install because the serial console port is actually com2 and Nano is hard coded to use com1. It all detailed in the XTM8 thread.

                      Steve

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                        TeknikL
                        last edited by

                        Did you try to boot the pfsense cd with a usb cdrom?

                        I have a Bigip 6400 and it boots off the disc, trying with a nanobsd serial console version now… will update.

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