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      satimis
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      What are VM1 and VM2?

      VM1 - Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
      VM2 - LinuxMint desktop

      Th host configuration is not important either. We need to see how VirtualBox's internal virtual network is configured. For example see the attached screenshot that I've shamelessly borrowed from Jonpoz. That's how ESXi shows it's network config.

      How to find it?  Thanks

      satimis

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, Ok some reading later. It appears, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that there is no real concept of a switch in Virtual Box at least not by default. You can add various things like openvswitch to do it but it's not standard. There's also no easy way to view the whole network config as there is in ESXi so we have to go through it step by step. There are at least two internal networks that can be used to separate VMs and we can use for pfSense. There are also a ton of tutorials out there like this one: http://pc-addicts.com/how-to-install-pfsense-in-virtualbox/

        Edit: Just watch that linked video. In fact you have as many independent internal networks as you want, the switches are implied.

        So the pfSense VM should have two network adapters enabled. The first should be a bridge adapter, that will be the pfSense WAN. The second should be an internal adapter, that will be the pfSense LAN.
        The VM you are suing to configure pfSense should have one network adapter and it should be the internal type.
        The internal adapters of both VMs MUST have the same name otherwise they will be isolated.

        I'm unsure about adding an adapter to allow the host to access the internet through pfSense though.  :-\

        Steve

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          satimis
          last edited by

          @stephenw10:

          Hmm, Ok some reading later. It appears, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that there is no real concept of a switch in Virtual Box at least not by default. You can add various things like openvswitch to do it but it's not standard. There's also no easy way to view the whole network config as there is in ESXi so we have to go through it step by step. There are at least two internal networks that can be used to separate VMs and we can use for pfSense. There are also a ton of tutorials out there like this one: http://pc-addicts.com/how-to-install-pfsense-in-virtualbox/

          • snip-

          Thanks for your link.

          I have no problem to install pfSense but unable making it to work.  I have tried importing .ova and .vdi download on Internet.  pfSense can start without probem.  But I couldn't browse it on VM and Host.

          em0 -> (not pointing to device/IP address)
          (see image attached)

          It can't connect ISP even after filling in the MAC address.

          I watched following video;
          Setup Virtual Lab | Networking and Virtualbox
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W9QTm-l1ck

          The physical setup is behind a physical router
          ISP (pppoe/ethernet) -> Router -> PC

          What I expect to achieve is without a physical route.  If it is a MUST behind a physical router that is NOT what I expect to do.

          satimis

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            satimis
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            Hi stephenw10,

            Further to my late posting I found following article:
            Virtualize your router using pfSense and Virtualbox
            http://www.area536.com/projects/virtualize-your-router-using-pfsense-and-virtualbox/

            It seems to me possible to replace the physical router with pfSense as virtual router.

            I made another round download pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-amd64.ova and import it to VirtualBox.  Thereafter started it without problem.  Both em0 and em1 are connected.
            (see attached image)

            Adapter-1
            Bridge Adapter
            eth0

            Adapter-2
            Bridge Adapter
            eth1

            WAN (wan)  -> em1  -> 192.168.0.11 (DHCP)
            LAN (lan)  -> em0  -> 192.168.1.1

            But still I couldn't browse it on Host browser running;
            http://192.168.1.1
            or
            https://192.168.1.1

            It is quite strange to me.

            satimis

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              You will have to browse to the pfSense webgui from the internal VM and make sure they both connected to the same internal network name.
              What OS are you using for the other VM? Does it receive an IP from the pfSense DHCP server?

              Steve

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                satimis
                last edited by

                @stephenw10:

                You will have to browse to the pfSense webgui from the internal VM and make sure they both connected to the same internal network name.

                I got it, thanks

                VM - Ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64bit
                On browser ran;
                192.168.1.1

                -> Add Exception
                Get Certificate
                [check] Permanently store this exception
                -> Confirm Security Exception

                Pls see attached images.

                Adapter-1 same as pfSense
                Adapter-2 same as pfSense

                What will be the login and password ?

                Where can I find tutorial using the webgui pfSense to configure ?

                $ cat /etc/network/interfaces```

                auto lo
                iface lo inet loopback

                
                sudo ifconfig
                

                eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                          inet addr:192.168.0.12  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                          inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                          RX packets:4549 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:3824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                          RX bytes:4787482 (4.7 MB)  TX bytes:630362 (630.3 KB)

                eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:e6:ca:14 
                          inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                          inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fee6:ca14/64 Scope:Link
                          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                          RX packets:267 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:268 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                          RX bytes:176246 (176.2 KB)  TX bytes:37546 (37.5 KB)

                lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                          RX packets:254 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:254 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                          RX bytes:44773 (44.7 KB)  TX bytes:44773 (44.7 KB)

                
                I don't think Ubuntu 12.04 receive IP from pfSense routing?
                
                On Host
                $ sudo ifconfig```
                
                eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:44:b6:1a  
                          inet addr:192.168.0.10  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                          inet6 addr: fe80::226:18ff:fe44:b61a/64 Scope:Link
                          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                          RX packets:14177 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:12287 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                          RX bytes:15365450 (14.6 MiB)  TX bytes:1973191 (1.8 MiB)
                          Interrupt:18 
                
                eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86  
                          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                          Interrupt:43 Base address:0xe000 
                
                lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
                          RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                          TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                          RX bytes:480 (480.0 B)  TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)
                
                

                What OS are you using for the other VM?

                I have Ubuntu/LinuxMint/OpenSUSE running here.

                Does it receive an IP from the pfSense DHCP server?

                I don't think so.  It receive IP from the physical router

                Connection;
                ISP -> Cable Modem -> Router -> PC eth0 (built-in NIC of motherboard)

                After making sure it works I'll change back to;
                ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC eth0 (built-in NIC of motherboard)

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Aha!  :)
                  The default login is admin:pfsense
                  The IP address in the Ubuntu VM, 192.168.1.100 is in the pfSense LAN default subnet. Is is not receiving that from the pfSense VM? Or did you set it manually? It looks like your physical router is using 192.168.0.X for its lan side subnet.
                  Why do you have two NICs in the Ubuntu VM?

                  There are many tutorials for setting up pfSense. Check Youtube, the docs wiki here, many places.  :) When you first login there is a wizard to guide through the initial setup anyway.

                  Set the WAN to DHCP. It should then receive an IP from your physical router and you will be able to ping things from the pfSense console. Then when you know that the pfSense VM has connectivity to the router try removing the router and reconfiguring the pfSense WAN for PPPoE.

                  Steve

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                    satimis
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10:

                    Aha!  :)
                    The default login is admin:pfsense

                    Thanks  Now I can login.

                    The IP address in the Ubuntu VM, 192.168.1.100 is in the pfSense LAN default subnet. Is is not receiving that from the pfSense VM? Or did you set it manually? It looks like your physical router is using 192.168.0.X for its lan side subnet.

                    pfSense is now working on my system, routing the traffic to all VMs on PC-1

                    PC-2
                    Connect the physical NIC of PC-1 to that of PC-2
                    Now PC-2 can connect ISP browsing Internet.

                    Setting of static IP on VMs of PC-2 (MintLinux)

                    $ cat /etc/network/interface```

                    auto lo
                    iface lo inet loopback

                    The primary network interface

                    auto eth0
                    iface eth0 inet static
                            address        192.168.1.11
                            dns-nameservers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
                            network        192.168.1.1/100
                            netmask        255.255.255.0
                            gateway        192.168.1.1

                    
                    $ sudo ifconfig```
                    
                    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:b5:8d:04  
                              inet addr:192.168.1.11  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                              inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:feb5:8d04/64 Scope:Link
                              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                              RX packets:209 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                              TX packets:209 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                              RX bytes:220407 (220.4 KB)  TX bytes:25932 (25.9 KB)
                    
                    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                    
                    

                    Why do you have two NICs in the Ubuntu VM?

                    I was not sure which virtual NIC would work, eth0 and eth1.  Later I found it eth1.  Now I have unchecked Adapter 2"

                    Why eth1 NOT eth0?

                    There are many tutorials for setting up pfSense. Check Youtube, the docs wiki here, many places.

                    Yes, Google found me many including the official tutorial of pfSense.  I just wonder which of them is suitable to me.

                    Set the WAN to DHCP. It should then receive an IP from your physical router and you will be able to ping things from the pfSense console. Then when you know that the pfSense VM has connectivity to the router try removing the router and reconfiguring the pfSense WAN for PPPoE.

                    Thanks.  I'll check it later to see whether;
                    ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC-1

                    this connect will work.  Interface here is PPPoE.  It worked before installing/running pfSense.

                    satimis

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      @satimis:

                      Why eth1 NOT eth0?

                      Well I'm guessing since I can't see your VM config but I'd say eth0, adapter1, was set as a bridge so it connects directly to the physical router whereas eth1, adapter2, is set as type internal so it connects to the pfSense LAN.

                      @satimis:

                      Thanks.  I'll check it later to see whether;
                      ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC-1  this connect will work.  Interface here is PPPoE.  It worked before installing/running pfSense.

                      This should work OK since you know the pfSense WAN has connectivity to the physical NIC. However be aware that when you apply those new settings you will loose connectivity at the host(PC1) and probably at PC2. The PPPoE connection will now be terminated in the pfSense VM so the only internet connectivity will be via pfSense. You will have to add a 'host only' adapter in order for the host PC to use the connection.

                      What address is the PC2 machine receiving?

                      Do you want the VMs on PC2 to be in the same network at the VMs on PC1?

                      Steve

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                        satimis
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10:

                        • snip -

                        @satimis:

                        Thanks.  I'll check it later to see whether;
                        ISP -> Cable Modem -> PC-1  this connect will work.  Interface here is PPPoE.  It worked before installing/running pfSense.

                        This should work OK since you know the pfSense WAN has connectivity to the physical NIC. However be aware that when you apply those new settings you will loose connectivity at the host(PC1) and probably at PC2. The PPPoE connection will now be terminated in the pfSense VM so the only internet connectivity will be via pfSense. You will have to add a 'host only' adapter in order for the host PC to use the connection.

                        I have spent more than 2 hours and could not make VM (Ubuntu12.04 desktop) connecting Internet

                        pfSense (see attached image)

                        Adapter-1
                        Bridge
                        eth0
                        Adapter-2
                        Bridge
                        eth1

                        VM PC1
                        satimis@ub12043dk00:~$ sudo ifconfig```

                        eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                                  inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                  inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                  RX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                  TX packets:275 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                  RX bytes:2680 (2.6 KB)  TX bytes:57037 (57.0 KB)

                        lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                  RX packets:204 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                  TX packets:204 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                  RX bytes:15804 (15.8 KB)  TX bytes:15804 (15.8 KB)

                        
                        satimis@ub12043dk00:~$ ping yahoo.com```
                        
                        ping: unknown host yahoo.com
                        

                        satimis@ub12043dk00:~$ ping 67.195.160.76```

                        PING 67.195.160.76 (67.195.160.76) 56(84) bytes of data.
                        From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
                        From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
                        From 192.168.1.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable

                        
                        Adapter-1
                        Bridge
                        eth0
                        Adapter-2
                        Bridge
                        eth1
                        Adapter-3
                        Host-only Adapter
                        
                        pfSense (pls see attached image)
                        
                        VM still unable to connect Internet.
                        
                        However VM can login 192.168.1.1
                        
                        During booting pfSense following warning displayed```
                        
                        ..
                        Starting NTP time client .. . Error : Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                        Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                        ..
                        

                        It held there for long time.  How to fix it?

                        What address is the PC2 machine receiving?

                        Host
                        IIRC 192.168.1.3

                        Do you want the VMs on PC2 to be in the same network at the VMs on PC1?

                        Can I create another network?  If YES, pls advise HOW?  Thanks

                        Rgds
                        satimis

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          @satimis:

                          pfSense (see attached image)

                          Adapter-1
                          Bridge
                          eth0
                          Adapter-2
                          Bridge
                          eth1

                          That's the pfSense VM?
                          The pfSense LAN interface must be type 'internal' in VBox. Otherwise it can't connect to the other VMs in PC1 which are also using the internal network.

                          @satimis:

                          VM PC1
                          satimis@ub12043dk00:~$ sudo ifconfig```

                          eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                                    inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                    inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                    UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                    RX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                    TX packets:275 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                    collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                    RX bytes:2680 (2.6 KB)  TX bytes:57037 (57.0 KB)

                          How is that IP being set in the Ubuntu VM? It should be set to DHCP and receiving its address from pfSense.

                          @satimis:

                          Adapter-1
                          Bridge
                          eth0
                          Adapter-2
                          Bridge
                          eth1
                          Adapter-3
                          Host-only Adapter

                          Which VM is that?

                          @satimis:

                          During booting pfSense following warning displayed```

                          ..
                          Starting NTP time client .. . Error : Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                          Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                          ..

                          It held there for long time.  How to fix it?
                          

                          That happens if pfSense is unable to connect to an external NTP server to update its time. Not a good sign.

                          @satimis:

                          Can I create another network?  If YES, pls advise HOW?  Thanks

                          Yes you could create another interface in pfSense to connect the PC2 host. That will then have a different subnet and could have a different set of firewall rules. You can filter any traffic between PC1 VMs and PC2 VMs.

                          Steve

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                            satimis
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                            Hi Steve,

                            Just discovered that pfSense has no function after Host (PC1) connected ISP running pppoe.

                            PC1 VM (Ubuntu)
                            Adapter
                            NAT

                            pfSense NOT running

                            ~$ sudo ifconfig```

                            [sudo] password for satimis:
                            eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                                      inet addr:10.0.2.15  Bcast:10.0.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                      inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                      UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                      RX packets:119229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                      TX packets:66072 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                      collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                      RX bytes:97656834 (97.6 MB)  TX bytes:5485570 (5.4 MB)

                            lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                      inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                      inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                      UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                      RX packets:1018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                      TX packets:1018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                      collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                      RX bytes:190128 (190.1 KB)  TX bytes:190128 (190.1 KB)

                            
                            PC2 unable to connect Internet
                            
                            ifconfig```
                            
                            ....
                            inet addr: 192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                            ....
                            
                            

                            @stephenw10:

                            @satimis:

                            pfSense (see attached image)

                            Adapter-1
                            Bridge
                            eth0
                            Adapter-2
                            Bridge
                            eth1

                            That's the pfSense VM?

                            Yes

                            The pfSense LAN interface must be type 'internal' in VBox. Otherwise it can't connect to the other VMs in PC1 which are also using the internal network.

                            Tried.

                            Adapter-1
                            internal
                            Adapter-2
                            Bridge
                            eth1 (also tried eth0)

                            PC1 VM (if Adapter 1 set to Bridge) and PC2 Host unable to connect Internet. 
                            If Adapter set to NAT, VM gets connection via the Host

                            How is that IP being set in the Ubuntu VM? It should be set to DHCP and receiving its address from pfSense.

                            If PC1 VM

                            Adapter 1
                            NAT

                            VM gets connection on Host not pfSense.

                            @satimis:

                            Adapter-1
                            Bridge
                            eth0
                            Adapter-2
                            Bridge
                            eth1
                            Adapter-3
                            Host-only Adapter

                            Which VM is that?

                            Not VM.  pfSense

                            @satimis:

                            During booting pfSense following warning displayed```

                            ..
                            Starting NTP time client .. . Error : Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                            Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                            ..

                            It held there for long time.  How to fix it?
                            

                            That happens if pfSense is unable to connect to an external NTP server to update its time. Not a good sign.

                            I have tried googling a while with a solution to me.  The solution found relating to BSD.  I import pfSense.ova on their server.  However I didn't find this problem on following physical network connect:
                            ISP -> Cable Modem -> Router - PC

                            @satimis:

                            Can I create another network?  If YES, pls advise HOW?  Thanks

                            Yes you could create another interface in pfSense to connect the PC2 host. That will then have a different subnet and could have a different set of firewall rules. You can filter any traffic between PC1 VMs and PC2 VMs.

                            Is it adding another Adapter say Adapter 3 on pfSense?

                            I'll come back to this question later after sorting out my recent problem.

                            Rgds
                            satimis

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Ok, I think we have a bit of a miscommunication problem here. A diagram would probably go a long way to help that. I'll try to draw something up this afternoon.

                              I can well believe that the pfSense VM has a problem if you are using PPPoE directly from its host PC. Why are you doing PPPoE from PC1? The PPPoE session should be in the pfSense WAN interface.

                              What happens when you try to start pfSense?

                              You should forget PC2 until you have pfSense running correctly with PC1 and the VMs hosted by PC1. Then add PC2.

                              If you have any adapters set to type 'NAT' in VBox then you will be bypassing pfSense. All the NAT should be done by pfSense.

                              pfSense is being run inside a VM like any of the other OSes, they are all just VMs to Vbox.

                              Steve

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                                @stephenw10:

                                Ok, I think we have a bit of a miscommunication problem here. A diagram would probably go a long way to help that. I'll try to draw something up this afternoon.

                                Thanks

                                I can well believe that the pfSense VM has a problem if you are using PPPoE directly from its host PC. Why are you doing PPPoE from PC1? The PPPoE session should be in the pfSense WAN interface.

                                I'll use another ISP on the coming early April.  The new ISP shall not provide router but an ONT for connecting my PC.  The new service will be FTTH Fibre Optic Service, 100MB/100MB..  Therefore I have to provide a router for collecting 2 PCs.  PC1 is my daily working PC with 10 VMs running.  PC2 is a spare PC also with 10 VMs running.  The latter is NOT running round the clock.  If I succeed installing/running pfSense as router on PC1 then I don't need purchasing a router.  I just plug a Cat5e cable to NIC2 of PC1 and to NIC of PC2 when I use the latter.

                                What happens when you try to start pfSense?

                                Nothing special found.  I can't use it as router to routing Internet connection to VM of PC1.  I haven't tested the VM on PC2.  What I noticed was I can start the login page of pfSense on browser of PC2 but unable to login.

                                You should forget PC2 until you have pfSense running correctly with PC1 and the VMs hosted by PC1. Then add PC2.

                                OK

                                If you have any adapters set to type 'NAT' in VBox then you will be bypassing pfSense. All the NAT should be done by pfSense.

                                pfSense is being run inside a VM like any of the other OSes, they are all just VMs to Vbox.

                                Noted.  Thanks

                                Rgds
                                satimis

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Right rather than my usual 'WordCad' effort I thought I'd give gliffy a try. Think I need more practise!  ::)
                                  Anyway here's the diagram. I didn't put any IPs or subnets on there since that's up to you really.
                                  I hope you can understand it.

                                  Steve

                                  vbox_suggested_setup.jpg
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                                    @stephenw10:

                                    Right rather than my usual 'WordCad' effort I thought I'd give gliffy a try. Think I need more practise!  ::)
                                    Anyway here's the diagram. I didn't put any IPs or subnets on there since that's up to you really.
                                    I hope you can understand it.

                                    Hi,

                                    Thanks for your diagram.

                                    Performed following steps but without result.

                                    Started pfSense```

                                    ........
                                    Configuring WAN interface ......
                                    (holding here for a long time but finally done)
                                    Configuring WAN interface done
                                    .....

                                    
                                    Also holding here for long time```
                                    
                                    ....
                                    Starting NTP time client .. . Error : Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                                    Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                                    ....
                                    
                                    

                                    WAN (wan)  -> em1  -> NONE (DHCP)
                                    LAN (lan  -> em0  -> 192.168.1.1

                                    VM Ubuntu 12.04 desktop

                                    Network -> Adapter 1
                                    Bridged Adapter
                                    eth1 (not eth0)

                                    It can ping 192.168.1.1 but unable to ping yahoo.com

                                    Also on browser I can login pfSense

                                    $ sudo ifconfig```

                                    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d 
                                              inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                              inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:102 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                              RX bytes:4344 (4.3 KB)  TX bytes:13633 (13.6 KB)

                                    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                              RX bytes:5660 (5.6 KB)  TX bytes:5660 (5.6 KB)

                                    
                                    According to following article:
                                    Virtualize your router using pfSense and Virtualbox
                                    http://www.area536.com/projects/virtualize-your-router-using-pfsense-and-virtualbox/
                                    
                                    I further performed following steps:
                                    
                                    Host
                                    ====
                                    $ sudo ifconfig```
                                    
                                    eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:44:b6:1a  
                                              inet6 addr: fe80::226:18ff:fe44:b61a/64 Scope:Link
                                              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:1229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:1627 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                              RX bytes:883218 (862.5 KiB)  TX bytes:324344 (316.7 KiB)
                                              Interrupt:18 
                                    
                                    eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86  
                                              UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                                              Interrupt:43 Base address:0x4000
                                    ....
                                    ....
                                    
                                    

                                    eth0   HWaddr 00:26:18:44:b6:1a
                                    MAC  00261844b61a

                                    eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86
                                    MAC 90f652035786

                                    Tried changing following MAC Address on both eth0 and eth1

                                    MAC  00261844b61a/00261844B61A
                                        90f652035786/90F652035786

                                    Still the same pfSense can't connect ISP

                                    A side question, how to draw your diagram?

                                    Rgds
                                    satimis

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      @satimis:

                                      
                                      ........
                                      Configuring WAN interface ......
                                      (holding here for a long time but finally done)
                                      Configuring WAN interface done
                                      .....
                                      
                                      

                                      Also holding here for long time```

                                      ....
                                      Starting NTP time client .. . Error : Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                                      Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                                      ....

                                      That's expected behaviour as it tries to obtain an IP address via DHCP (and fails) and then tries to get the time from an NTP server (and fails).

                                      @satimis:

                                      WAN (wan)  -> em1  -> NONE (DHCP)
                                      LAN (lan  -> em0  -> 192.168.1.1

                                      Ok, so which adapter is which? Is the router still in it's standard mode, handing out IP address on it's LAN? If so then probably have the interfaces the wrong way around. This worked earlier. You set the interface that is assigned to the pfSense WAN to 'bridged interface' and pfSense recived an IP on its WAN from the router. It was em1 there too though so perahps you have changed the WAN adapter to 'internal' in VBox instead of the LAN.

                                      @satimis:

                                      VM Ubuntu 12.04 desktop

                                      Network -> Adapter 1
                                      Bridged Adapter
                                      eth1 (not eth0)

                                      It can ping 192.168.1.1 but unable to ping yahoo.com
                                      Also on browser I can login pfSense

                                      The Ubuntu VM that we are using to configure pfSense should have only one adapter enabled on it and it should be type 'Internal'. It is shown as any of the VMs I have on PC1 in my diagram. It should be set to use DHCP in Ubuntu so that you can see when it is correctly receiving an IP from pfSense.

                                      It seems likely that you have accidentally set the pfSense VM WAN adapter to internal and the LAN adapter to bridged. In that instance the pfSense LAN would be accessible via a bridged adapter on the Ubuntu VM because they are both bridged to the same physical NIC in the host.

                                      If that is the case you need rectify this by either reassigning the interfaces in pfSense, WAN as em0 and LAN as em1, OR change the adapter types in VBox so the the correct adapters are bridged and internal.

                                      Forget about MAC addresses for now. You may have to spoof the WAN MAC address in pfSense if your ISP requires that

                                      @satimis:

                                      A side question, how to draw your diagram?

                                      I used giffly.com gliffy.com. The first time I used it hence the colours are at bit odd. Haven't worked out how to change that yet.  ::)

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                                        Hi Steve,

                                        pfSense was imported on "pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-amd64.ova" download on pfSense website.

                                        Remark:
                                        I'm confused here.  Physical NIC-1 (eth0) is onboard (motherboard) and physical NIC-2 (eth1) is a PCI-e Gigabit NIC.  On host they are displayed correctly.  However on pfSense and VM NIC-1 becomes eth1 and NIC-2 eth0

                                        Changed eth0 and eth1 back to their original MAC Addresses.  Started pfSense

                                        Adapter 1
                                        Attached to: Bridge
                                        eth0

                                        Adapter 2
                                        Attached to: Bridge
                                        eth1

                                        VM 12.04 Desktop

                                        Adapter 1
                                        Attached to: Internal Network
                                        Name: intnet

                                        $ sudo ifconfig

                                        
                                        eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:10:8c:3d  
                                                  inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:8c3d/64 Scope:Link
                                                  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                                                  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:12394 (12.3 KB)
                                        
                                        lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                                                  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                                  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                                  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                                  RX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                  TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                                                  RX bytes:1312 (1.3 KB)  TX bytes:1312 (1.3 KB)
                                        
                                        

                                        $ ping 192.168.1.1
                                        connect: Network is unreachable

                                        I think my problem is pfSense can't establish a second connection to ISP via the virtual NIC.  Because Host is already connected to ISP.  Seemly second connection is NOT allowed unless behind a physical router.

                                        Other advice noted with thanks.

                                        satimis

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          The pfSense VM needs to have :

                                          Adapter 2
                                          Attached to: Internal Network
                                          Name: intnet

                                          That is the adapter that is then set as the pfSense LAN interface.

                                          Steve

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                                            satimis
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10:

                                            The pfSense VM needs to have :

                                            Adapter 2
                                            Attached to: Internal Network
                                            Name: intnet

                                            That is the adapter that is then set as the pfSense LAN interface.

                                            Steve

                                            Performed following steps

                                            pfSense
                                            Adapter 1
                                            Bridge
                                            eth0 (also tried eth1)

                                            Adapter 2
                                            Internal Network
                                            intnet

                                            WAN still can't connect ISP

                                            WAN (wan) -> em1 -> NONE (DHCP)
                                            LAN (lan) -> em0 -> 192.168.1.1

                                            VM Ubuntu
                                            Adapter 1
                                            Bridge
                                            eth1 (also tried eth0)

                                            same output;

                                            $ sudo ifconfig```

                                            lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                                      inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                                      inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                                      UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                                      RX packets:176 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                                      TX packets:176 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                                      collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                                      RX bytes:14432 (14.4 KB)  TX bytes:14432 (14.4 KB)

                                            
                                            Rgds
                                            satimis
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