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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 3:01 PM

    Hmm, OK. So if both the pfSense LAN and the Ubuntu NIC are on the same internal network then either the DHCP server is not enabled on the pfSense (it would be enabled by default) or the Ubuntu VM is not set to use DHCP.
    In your second setup you can see the Ubuntu VM sees the interface as UP but isn't receiving an IP.

    If you have the router in place then it will hand out an IP to the pfSense WAN and you will be able see immediately if you have the correct adapters assigned to the interfaces.

    Steve

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      satimis
      last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 4:04 PM

      Hi Steve

      The problem is my modem only has 1 IP address to assign.  Debian Host is getting this IP address before pfSense starts up.  I must sort out this problem first.  Secondly login and password are needed for assigning IP address.  Where shall I enter them to assign the IP address to pfSense in order to get connection to Internet?

      satimis

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 6:22 PM

        Well you could do that but as you say you need to be able to enter the PPP username/password to pfSense and you can only do that (without resorting to manually editing files) via the webgui. To access the webgui you need to sort out the connection between the pfSense LAN interface and Ubutu VM you're using for administration.
        If you put the router back inplace between the modem and PC1 then it will hand out a private IP to pfSense which you will be able to immediately see in the pfSense console. That will make it much easier to determine that you have the LAN interface assigned to the correct VM adapter and that that adapter is configured correctly.

        Steve

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          doktornotor Banned
          last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 6:45 PM

          Cannot you just add serial port in Virtualbox and use that as console?

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 7:12 PM Mar 8, 2014, 7:10 PM

            You could but there's no need to do that you can already access the virtual VGA console. To configure the WAN for PPPoE you pretty much need to do it from the LAN side via the webgui.

            Any second opinions on this are welcomed. As I said earlier in the thread I've used VBox only a few times and not recently so most of what I've said here is based on research rather than experience.

            Steve

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              doktornotor Banned
              last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 7:19 PM

              Only have ESXi and Hyper-V boxes available ATM, so… afraid I won't be of much help. I kinda don't understand what's the trouble here then. The web GUI does not work with WAN down, or what? If it does not, what's the problem with assigning some static temp IP to WAN meanwhile, just to get it running?

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Mar 8, 2014, 10:23 PM

                There are two issues.
                The first is configuring the pfSense WAN interface to connect using PPPoE via a bridged adapter in VBox to the physical NIC and the cable modem. However we havne't yet actually tackled that because of the second issue…
                Configuring the pfSense WAN to PPPoE needs (or is very much easier) to be done from the LAN side. Here the LAN interface is connected to an internal virtual network only so we have added an Ubuntu VM on that same network in order to fire up a browser and point it at the pfSense webgui. Currently the Ubuntu VM is not receiving an IP from the pfSense DHCP server. This should be pretty easy to accomplish. It's not helped by the fact that earlier access to the pfSense webgui was established via some accidental bridging route.

                If you're up for it read back through the thread, try not to shout at the computer to much!  ;)

                Steve

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                  satimis
                  last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 6:51 AM Mar 10, 2014, 6:49 AM

                  Hi all,

                  Performed following steps but still fail.

                  Connection
                  ISP -> Modem -> PC

                  Make following changes:

                  Host

                  /etc/network/interfaces```

                  The loopback network interface

                  auto lo
                  iface lo inet loopback

                  auto eth0
                  iface eth0 inet static
                  #(configure Debian host not using DHCP for the eth0 interface)

                  auto vboxnet0
                  iface vboxnet0 inet dhcp
                  #(configure debian host to connect to the pfSence router via the LAN port)

                  
                  pfSense:
                  ======
                  NIC1 of pfSence host - Adapter 1 - Bridged to eth0\. (also tried eth1/Internal Network)
                  NIC2 Adapter 2 - Host-Only Adapter
                  Name vboxnet0
                  
                  Reboot Host
                  
                  $ sudo ifconfig```
                  
                  eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86  
                            UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                            RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                            TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                            collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                            Interrupt:43 Base address:0xc000 
                  
                  lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
                            inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                            inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                            UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
                            RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                            TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                            collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
                            RX bytes:1584 (1.5 KiB)  TX bytes:1584 (1.5 KiB)
                  
                  vboxnet0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 0a:00:27:00:00:00  
                            inet addr:192.168.56.1  Bcast:192.168.56.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                            inet6 addr: fe80::800:27ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link
                            UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                            RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                            TX packets:54 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                            collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
                            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9229 (9.0 KiB)
                  
                  

                  Started pfSense

                  
                  ....
                  ....
                  Configuring WAN interface .... starting pppoe link... done
                  .......
                  Starting NTP time client...Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
                  (held here for sometime)
                  
                  WAN (wan)  ->  pppoe0  ->  NONE (PPPoE)
                  LAN (lan)  ->  em0  ->  192.168.1.1
                  ....
                  ....
                  
                  

                  (see attached photo image)

                  VM Ubuntu 12.04 64bit

                  Adapter -1
                  Bridge
                  eth0

                  Start VM
                  Warning:```

                  The virtual machine execution may run into an error condition as
                  described below.  We suggest that you take an appropriate
                  action to avert the error.

                  Bridged interface eth0 is down.  Guest will not be able to use
                  this interface.

                  Details
                  Error ID:  BridgeInterfaceDown
                  Severity:  Warning

                  
                  Login pfSense (192.168.1.1)
                  
                  Username
                  admin
                  Password
                  pfsense
                  -> Login
                  
                  -> Interfaces -> WAN
                  Description  WAN
                  
                  Type  PPPoE
                  
                  Username (xxxxxxx)
                  Password (xxxxxx)
                  
                  (check)
                  Block private networks
                  Block bogon networks
                  -> Save
                  
                  Warning```
                  
                  Interfaces: WAN
                  The WAN configuration has been changed.
                  You must apply the changes in order for them to take effect.
                  Don't forget to adjust the DHCP Server range if needed after applying.
                  
                  

                  -> Apply Changes

                  -> Status -> Interfaces -> click (connect)

                  Still failed (see attached photo image)

                  According to following document:-
                  pfSense initial configuration with ADSL WAN
                  http://www.interspective.net/2012/05/pfsense-initial-configuration-adsl-wan.html

                  
                  ....
                  The first thing you want to do is use a web browser to connect to your old modem / router and set the WAN interface to 'Bridge Mode'. Once you've logged in you will need to find the WAN type....
                  
                  

                  First I'm not allowed to touch the modem, impossible making change on its settings.  Besides there will be no sense using the router to continue this test.  My goal is using vRouter (pfSense)

                  I think my chance of success being remote?  I'll buy a new router after switching to the new ISP on the coming April (the current router is on loan).

                  Rgds
                  satimis

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                  Screenshot_wan_interface_20140309.png
                  Screenshot_wan_interface_20140309.png_thumb
                  Screenshot_lan_20140310.png
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                    doktornotor Banned
                    last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 8:30 AM

                    If you are not able to configure the modem in any way, you cannot use pfSense to dial PPPoE. That's pretty much the whole story.

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                      satimis
                      last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 9:07 AM

                      @doktornotor:

                      If you are not able to configure the modem in any way, you cannot use pfSense to dial PPPoE. That's pretty much the whole story.

                      Hi,

                      Thanks for your advice.

                      I consider not to spend further effort here because less than a month I'll use a new ISP.  Then I'll try again before purchasing a new router.  I'm subscribing Static IP.  I'll make request to the new ISP for changing the settings on their ONT.  They'll provide ONT not cable modem for HTTH Optical Fibre Network.  My current ISP is not providing Optical Fibre Service.

                      I have the photo of the ONT attached here which is provided by the new ISP

                      There are 2 ports.  I think I can use them connecting my 2 PCs?  But how to assign LAN IP to VMs without a router?

                      Rgds
                      satimis

                      Screenshot_ont.png
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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 11:28 AM

                        You don't need to put your router in bridge mode because you have a separate modem and router. You have removed the router entirely leaving just the modem which expects to see a PPPoE connection.

                        Here's the think though. You are making this far more difficult than it needs to be by trying to do everything at once. The way to solve problems like this is to do in one step at a time. Right now you're trying to solve the PPPoE connection, the connection to the host and connection to the Ubuntu VM simultaneously. You are also changing many things between each post so that diagnosing what effect the changed have had becomes far more difficult.

                        The 192.168.56.X address given by the host only adapter to the host is an address given out by VBox when it's NATing. You probably don't want that.

                        Here's what I would do:
                        Solve one thing at a time. So first I would setup the connection between the pfSense VM and the Ubuntu administration VM.
                        Please put the router back in place so that it's handing out IPs. Setup the pfSense VM with two adapters as you did before:

                        pfSense
                        Adapter 1
                        Bridge
                        eth0

                        Adapter 2
                        Internal Network
                        intnet

                        Set the pfSense WAN interface to DHCP. It should receive an IP address on the WAN from the router. Now you know you have the correct adapter assigned to the WAN.

                        Set the Ubuntu VM adapter to:

                        Adapter 1
                        Internal Network
                        intnet

                        Set Ubuntu to use DHCP. Now it should receive an IP address from the pfSense DHCP server. If it does not we will try to solve that first before doing anything else. We need that connection work.

                        Steve

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                          satimis
                          last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 12:32 PM Mar 10, 2014, 12:27 PM

                          @stephenw10:

                          • snip -

                          Please put the router back in place so that it's handing out IPs. Setup the pfSense VM with two adapters as you did before:

                          pfSense
                          Adapter 1
                          Bridge
                          eth0

                          Adapter 2
                          Internal Network
                          intnet

                          Set the pfSense WAN interface to DHCP. It should receive an IP address on the WAN from the router. Now you know you have the correct adapter assigned to the WAN.

                          Set the Ubuntu VM adapter to:

                          Adapter 1
                          Internal Network
                          intnet

                          Set Ubuntu to use DHCP. Now it should receive an IP address from the pfSense DHCP server. If it does not we will try to solve that first before doing anything else. We need that connection work.

                          Set connection as advised;

                          ISP -> Modem -> Router -> PC

                          also set config as advised.

                          Started pfSense followed by VM

                          Login gui pfSense
                          Wan -> DHCP
                          -> Applied changes

                          Status -> Interfaces
                          Status  down
                          DHCP  down [renew] (no function on clicking)

                          Rebooted pfSense, it held here;```

                          .....
                          Do you want tp set VLANs [y|n] em1: DAD detected duplicate IPv6 address
                          fe80:2::226:10ff:fe44:b61a: NS in/out=0/1 NA in=1
                          em1: DAD complete for fe80:2::226:10ff:fe44:b61a - duplicate found
                          em1: manual intervention required
                          em1: possible hardware address duplication detected,l disable IPv6

                          
                          Edit:
                          ===
                          Host
                          /etc/network/interfaces```
                          
                          # The loopback network interface
                          auto lo
                          iface lo inet loopback
                          

                          satimis

                          Screenshot_interfaces_20140310.png
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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 3:24 PM

                            Ok, well we have some new information at least!
                            That duplicated IPv6 address is probably because both the pfSense WAN and the Host, PC1, are requesting addresses using the same MAC address. They share the same physical MAC. I'm unsure why that didn't happen before. There is probably a work around by spoofing the MAC but if you don't need IPv6 you can just go to Interfaces: WAN: and set the IPv6 configuration type to 'none'. I assume you had set that to DHCP. Obviously leave the IPv4 type as DHCP.

                            So you had no problem connecting to the LAN from the Ubuntu VM? Did it receive an IP from the pfSense DHCP server? You can check it in Status: DHCP leases:

                            Steve

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                              satimis
                              last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 4:14 PM

                              On Host before firing up pfSense

                              $ sudo ifconfig```

                              eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:18:44:b6:1a 
                                        inet addr:192.168.0.10  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                        inet6 addr: fe80::226:18ff:fe44:b61a/64 Scope:Link
                                        UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                        RX packets:231980 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                        TX packets:144575 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:1
                                        collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                        RX bytes:322513726 (307.5 MiB)  TX bytes:13891455 (13.2 MiB)
                                        Interrupt:18

                              eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 90:f6:52:03:57:86 
                                        UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                        RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                        TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                        collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                        RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
                                        Interrupt:43 Base address:0x4000

                              lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                        inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                        inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                        UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
                                        RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                        TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                        collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                        RX bytes:480 (480.0 B)  TX bytes:480 (480.0 B)

                              
                              > That duplicated IPv6 address is probably because both the pfSense WAN and the Host, PC1, are requesting addresses using the same MAC address. They share the same physical MAC. I'm unsure why that didn't happen before. There is probably a work around by spoofing the MAC but if you don't need IPv6 you can just go to Interfaces: WAN: and set the IPv6 configuration type to 'none'. I assume you had set that to DHCP. Obviously leave the IPv4 type as DHCP.
                              
                              Before changing pppoe back to DHCP I have put the MAC Address of eth0 "00:26:18:44:b6:1a" there (IIRC).  During changing pppoe to DHCP I deleted that MAC Address.
                              
                              Now I couldn't start pfSense anymore it was held on;```
                              
                              .....
                              Do you want tp set VLANs [y|n] em1: DAD detected duplicate IPv6 address
                              fe80:2::226:10ff:fe44:b61a: NS in/out=0/1 NA in=1
                              em1: DAD complete for fe80:2::226:10ff:fe44:b61a - duplicate found
                              em1: manual intervention required
                              em1: possible hardware address duplication detected,l disable IPv6
                              
                              

                              satimis

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Mar 10, 2014, 9:59 PM

                                So you tried disabling DHCPv6?

                                At that screen you should still be able to answer 'N' to the VLANs question and continue the pfSense setup. The duplicate IP warning is just informational. It shouldn't stop you continuing.

                                Steve

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                                  satimis
                                  last edited by Mar 11, 2014, 2:39 AM

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  So you tried disabling DHCPv6?

                                  At that screen you should still be able to answer 'N' to the VLANs question and continue the pfSense setup. The duplicate IP warning is just informational. It shouldn't stop you continuing.

                                  I was stuck there.  Actually I was not allowed to keyin any imput.  All were done automatically eversince starting pfSense.

                                  This version of pfSense was imported on pfSense-2.0.3-RELEASE-amd64.ova download on Internet.  Would this .ova have problem?

                                  I also have pfSense-LiveCD-2.1-RELEASE-amd64.iso.gz download.  I can create another VM installing this version.

                                  satimis

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                                    satimis
                                    last edited by Mar 11, 2014, 12:39 PM Mar 11, 2014, 12:36 PM

                                    Hi Steve

                                    Created another pfSense VM (name=pfSense2.1) on pfSense-LiveCD-2.1-RELEASE-amd64.iso.gz download on pfSense site.

                                    
                                    pfSense2.1
                                    ========
                                    Adapter 1
                                    Bridge
                                    eth0
                                    
                                    Adapter 2
                                    Internal Network
                                    intnet
                                    
                                    
                                    
                                    VM Ubuntu 12.04
                                    ==============
                                    Adapter 1
                                    Internal Network
                                    intnet
                                    
                                    

                                    This time it works
                                    –-------------------
                                    Fire up pfSense2.1

                                    
                                    WAN (wan)  -> em0  -> v4/DHCP4: 192.168.0.15/24
                                    LAN (lan)  -> em1  -> v4: 192.168.1.1/24
                                    
                                    

                                    WAN gets DHCP on physical Router

                                    Start VM

                                    $ sudo ifconfig```

                                    eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 08:00:27:5a:3d:a4 
                                              inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
                                              inet6 addr: fe80::a00:27ff:fe5a:3da4/64 Scope:Link
                                              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:12104 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:10357 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
                                              RX bytes:13944700 (13.9 MB)  TX bytes:1169137 (1.1 MB)

                                    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
                                              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
                                              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
                                              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
                                              RX packets:1627 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
                                              TX packets:1627 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
                                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
                                              RX bytes:226777 (226.7 KB)  TX bytes:226777 (226.7 KB)

                                    
                                    VM obtains IP on pfSense2.1
                                    
                                    I can login pfSense2.1 on VM
                                    
                                    satimis
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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by Mar 12, 2014, 12:43 PM

                                      Ok, excellent. Remember those settings!  :)

                                      So now there are two further problems to be tackled one at a time.
                                      1. Change the WAN connection to PPPoE directly from pfSense.
                                      2. Add a host adapter so the host also uses pfSense as it's internet gateway.

                                      Personally I would try to do 1 first but it's up to you. Don't try to do both at the same time though it will only introduce further confusion.

                                      Steve

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                                        satimis
                                        last edited by Mar 12, 2014, 2:21 PM Mar 12, 2014, 2:19 PM

                                        @stephenw10:

                                        So now there are two further problems to be tackled one at a time.
                                        1. Change the WAN connection to PPPoE directly from pfSense.
                                        2. Add a host adapter so the host also uses pfSense as it's internet gateway.

                                        Personally I would try to do 1 first but it's up to you. Don't try to do both at the same time though it will only introduce further confusion.

                                        Ok I'll do step-1 first without changing Adapter 1 and 2 of pfSense.  I'll do direct editing on gui pfSense to change DHCP to PPPoE

                                        1. How about the devices connection?  Still behind the router?

                                        OR
                                        ISP -> Modem -> PC ?

                                        1. Shall I add the MAC Address of eth0 ?

                                        If unsuccessful I'll add Step-2 which, I suppose, is an addition to Step-1?

                                        I'm not very clear of;

                                        2. Add a host adapter so the host also uses pfSense as it's internet gateway.

                                        Whether add another Adapter to pfSense
                                        Adapter 3
                                        Host-Only Adapter
                                        Name: vboxnet0

                                        And edit /etc/network/interfaces of Host as;```

                                        The loopback network interface

                                        auto lo
                                        iface lo inet loopback

                                        auto eth0
                                        iface eth0 inet static
                                        Address  192.168.1.2
                                        Netmask  255.255.255.0
                                        Gateway  192.168.1.1

                                        auto vboxnet0
                                        iface vboxnet0 inet dhcp

                                        
                                        Please advise.  Thanks
                                        
                                        satimis
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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Mar 13, 2014, 2:23 AM

                                          Ok so to do part one, yes, change the pfSense WAN interrface to PPPoE and connect the modem directly the bridged host NIC.
                                          Enter the correct PPP username/password in pfSense. Reboot the modem.
                                          If it doesn't connect check the system and PPP logs in pfSense to see how far it got for clues.

                                          For part 2 that's exactly what I would do though when I read through the documentation I wasn't able to fully understand how the 'host only' adapter functions.
                                          In pfSense go to Interfaces: (assign) and click the '+' icon and bottom to add a new interface. It will be OPT1 but you can rename it, say, HOST, if you like. Enable the interface and give it an IP address and subnet, something you're not using anywhere else. Go to Firewall: Rules: OPT1: and add a rule to allow out traffic, use the default allow rule from LAN as a template. Go to Services: DHCP Server: and add a DHCP sever to OPT1. Since you will only ever have one machine in that subnet you could use static IPs instead.

                                          Steve

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