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    • forbiddenlakeF
      forbiddenlake
      last edited by

      @MaxPF:

      Just when I decided to go with the 2GB model instead of waiting for the 4GB, it sold out.

      what country are you in?  Check their other distributors.  I just ordered an APU1C from mini-box.com (free US shipping!).

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        @tmueko:

        Network performance is very poor, below 15MB/sec scp from host to /dev/null

        Why use SCP? That's testing crypto and network in combination. Hardly a fair test unless you're running that specifically.

        Steve

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          watercooled
          last edited by

          Add -elapsed to that openssl command to measure elapsed time, rather than CPU time. As the code doesn't run on the CPU with the hardware test, you get massively inaccurate results. Just think about the results for a second - ~20GB/s throughput?

          This is more the sort of result you should be getting with -elapsed: http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/bx/blosxom.cgi/index.front?-tags=geode

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            tmueko
            last edited by

            I aslo tried to just use the APU as Gbit-Gateway with the ame bad results.

            Using the "-elapsed" Option gives complete different results!

            APU
            type            16 bytes    64 bytes    256 bytes  1024 bytes  8192 bytes
            aes-256-cbc      25906.20k    27743.31k    28145.80k    28552.07k    28663.62k
            aes-128-cbc      31903.42k    34736.06k    35349.14k    35994.51k    36190.80k

            ALIX
            aes-128-cbc        439.80k    1711.46k    5388.38k    15939.21k    28228.88k
            aes-256-cbc      3880.35k    4004.79k    4381.44k    4132.74k    4014.75k

            NA820(hifn)
            aes-128-cbc        617.01k    2462.52k    7257.86k    13492.76k    21152.43k
            aes-256-cbc        616.61k    2412.38k    7626.04k    15504.02k    23657.20k

            I think I'll try to find a bottleneck … maybe a brocken cable...

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              watercooled
              last edited by

              Do you have a way of measuring idle/load power consumption?

              Also, what's the thermal solution like? Retailers I've checked say it comes with an aluminium heat spreader, but don't go into much detail about how the system works.

              For example, does the heat spreader come bonded to the processor die somehow and contact the enclosure via some thermal paste?

              Edit: NVM, I've just found this page, linked by a retailer: http://www.pcengines.ch/apucool.htm

              Edit2: connorxxl beat me to it. :P

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                connorxxl
                last edited by

                See http://www.pcengines.ch/apucool.htm.

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                  Anaximelis
                  last edited by

                  Power consumption on apu1c with ssd + wifi card is 9.5 watt Idee / 13 watt load

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                  • ?
                    Guest
                    last edited by

                    @olivier:

                    Here is a network performance bench of the APU1c (2Go of RAM) under FreeBSD 11-current.

                    It's going to be a while before we run 11 under pfSense.

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                    • ?
                      Guest
                      last edited by

                      @Clown:

                      Would be nice to have for the new APU board:

                      • LED Support

                      working
                      @Clown:

                      • Thermal sensors

                      working, but won't be enabled by default.  Can be enabled via 'Advanced' menu.
                      @Clown:

                      • as mentioned in an other thread (GPU prozessors as crypto device)

                      not even going to bother, (as mentioned in other thread)

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                        router_wang
                        last edited by

                        Gonzo, what is the current and roadmap for Wifi cards that I can use with this board?

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                          connorxxl
                          last edited by

                          Gonzo, any hints about how to enable thermal sensors? I tried the advanced settings (AMD K8, K10, etc.), but no temperature… At least not in the Thermal Sensors Dashboard...

                          Thanks for your help.

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                          • nesenseN
                            nesense
                            last edited by

                            @gonzopancho:

                            @Clown:

                            Would be nice to have for the new APU board:

                            • LED Support

                            working
                            @Clown:

                            • Thermal sensors

                            working, but won't be enabled by default.  Can be enabled via 'Advanced' menu.
                            @Clown:

                            • as mentioned in an other thread (GPU prozessors as crypto device)

                            not even going to bother, (as mentioned in other thread)

                            BlinkLED does not work with the APU board:

                            "Mar 22 01:06:49 php: /pkg_edit.php: The command '/usr/local/bin/blinkled -i 're2' -l '/dev/led/led2'' returned exit code '2', the output was '/usr/local/bin/blinkled: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected'
                            Mar 22 01:06:49 php: /pkg_edit.php: The command '/usr/local/bin/blinkled -i 're1' -l '/dev/led/led3'' returned exit code '2', the output was '/usr/local/bin/blinkled: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected'"

                            Same for thermal Sensors, ACPI  or amdtemp both do not show temperatures.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Clearly that's not going to be for 2.1 since the board has only recently become available. At the very least it would be a 2.1.1 build but more likely he is referencing a 2.2 build.

                              Steve

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                                tmueko
                                last edited by

                                Can somebody measure throughput on his APU?

                                I startet a "nc -l 8888 > /dev/null" on a device on WAN Interface.
                                then I startet "cat <big file="">| nc <ip_from_device>8888"

                                I dont get more then 10 MByte/s.

                                What am I doing wrong?</ip_from_device></big>

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                                  tirsojrp
                                  last edited by

                                  Testing with a 100Mbps equipment?

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                                    tohil
                                    last edited by

                                    hi

                                    i tried to install the embedded version on a 4GB Kingston SD Card. but it doesn't fit, so i used the 2GB nanobsd edition.
                                    but when i try to boot, i got errors about mounting the root parition, wrong geometry aborting startup

                                    can i fix this by this
                                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_6501_USB_Flash_installation#Root_Mount_error

                                    or the USB Boot Problem article?

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                                      0x55
                                      last edited by

                                      @tmueko:

                                      Can somebody measure throughput on his APU?

                                      I startet a "nc -l 8888 > /dev/null" on a device on WAN Interface.
                                      then I startet "cat <big file="">| nc <ip_from_device>8888"

                                      I dont get more then 10 MByte/s.

                                      What am I doing wrong?</ip_from_device></big>

                                      <big file="">Using Debian Wheezy 64bit, 'nc hera 7777
                                      root@hera:/# netcat -l -p 7777 | dd of=/dev/null bs=1024
                                      8503772+19682 records in
                                      8513324+0 records out
                                      4358821888 bytes (4.4 GB) copied, 45.7555 s, 95.3 MB/s

                                      Pretty close to the theoretical maximum of 1 GBit when considering TCP/IP overhead, however the CPU is nearly at max (90-95%, 1 core), so the APU can cope with the GBit traffic, but is stressed to the limit in this simple test.
                                      When doing packet forwarding solely in kernel space (without user space processes and thus a lot less context switches/copy operations) the CPU should be able to handle the traffic with ease. Didn't test throughput with smaller, sub-MTU packets though, this should stress the CPU a lot more.

                                      Overall a huge improvement over the good old ALIX (had 2 ALIX, now 2 APUs), crypto could be a little faster (~ 30MB/s AES128 CTR + umac128  when doing a simple cat /dev/zero test via SSH connection, compression (obvioulsy) turned off), but since the APU does not have an onboard hardware crypto engine, that's ok in my opinion  :)</big>

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                                        tmueko
                                        last edited by

                                        @tohil:

                                        hi

                                        i tried to install the embedded version on a 4GB Kingston SD Card. but it doesn't fit, so i used the 2GB nanobsd edition.
                                        but when i try to boot, i got errors about mounting the root parition, wrong geometry aborting startup

                                        can i fix this by this
                                        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_6501_USB_Flash_installation#Root_Mount_error

                                        or the USB Boot Problem article?

                                        Yes, that are the steps, you have to go, but 'set kern.cam.boot_delay="5000"'  will be enough.

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                                        • forbiddenlakeF
                                          forbiddenlake
                                          last edited by

                                          Is there a way to speed up crypto? Like a Mini-PCI crypto accelerator?

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                                            doktornotor Banned
                                            last edited by

                                            @forbiddenlake:

                                            Like a Mini-PCI crypto accelerator?

                                            No such slot on the board.

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