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    • ?
      Guest
      last edited by

      @Clown:

      Would be nice to have for the new APU board:

      • LED Support

      working
      @Clown:

      • Thermal sensors

      working, but won't be enabled by default.  Can be enabled via 'Advanced' menu.
      @Clown:

      • as mentioned in an other thread (GPU prozessors as crypto device)

      not even going to bother, (as mentioned in other thread)

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        router_wang
        last edited by

        Gonzo, what is the current and roadmap for Wifi cards that I can use with this board?

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          connorxxl
          last edited by

          Gonzo, any hints about how to enable thermal sensors? I tried the advanced settings (AMD K8, K10, etc.), but no temperature… At least not in the Thermal Sensors Dashboard...

          Thanks for your help.

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          • nesenseN
            nesense
            last edited by

            @gonzopancho:

            @Clown:

            Would be nice to have for the new APU board:

            • LED Support

            working
            @Clown:

            • Thermal sensors

            working, but won't be enabled by default.  Can be enabled via 'Advanced' menu.
            @Clown:

            • as mentioned in an other thread (GPU prozessors as crypto device)

            not even going to bother, (as mentioned in other thread)

            BlinkLED does not work with the APU board:

            "Mar 22 01:06:49 php: /pkg_edit.php: The command '/usr/local/bin/blinkled -i 're2' -l '/dev/led/led2'' returned exit code '2', the output was '/usr/local/bin/blinkled: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected'
            Mar 22 01:06:49 php: /pkg_edit.php: The command '/usr/local/bin/blinkled -i 're1' -l '/dev/led/led3'' returned exit code '2', the output was '/usr/local/bin/blinkled: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected'"

            Same for thermal Sensors, ACPI  or amdtemp both do not show temperatures.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Clearly that's not going to be for 2.1 since the board has only recently become available. At the very least it would be a 2.1.1 build but more likely he is referencing a 2.2 build.

              Steve

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                tmueko
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                Can somebody measure throughput on his APU?

                I startet a "nc -l 8888 > /dev/null" on a device on WAN Interface.
                then I startet "cat <big file="">| nc <ip_from_device>8888"

                I dont get more then 10 MByte/s.

                What am I doing wrong?</ip_from_device></big>

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                  tirsojrp
                  last edited by

                  Testing with a 100Mbps equipment?

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                    tohil
                    last edited by

                    hi

                    i tried to install the embedded version on a 4GB Kingston SD Card. but it doesn't fit, so i used the 2GB nanobsd edition.
                    but when i try to boot, i got errors about mounting the root parition, wrong geometry aborting startup

                    can i fix this by this
                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_6501_USB_Flash_installation#Root_Mount_error

                    or the USB Boot Problem article?

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                      0x55
                      last edited by

                      @tmueko:

                      Can somebody measure throughput on his APU?

                      I startet a "nc -l 8888 > /dev/null" on a device on WAN Interface.
                      then I startet "cat <big file="">| nc <ip_from_device>8888"

                      I dont get more then 10 MByte/s.

                      What am I doing wrong?</ip_from_device></big>

                      <big file="">Using Debian Wheezy 64bit, 'nc hera 7777
                      root@hera:/# netcat -l -p 7777 | dd of=/dev/null bs=1024
                      8503772+19682 records in
                      8513324+0 records out
                      4358821888 bytes (4.4 GB) copied, 45.7555 s, 95.3 MB/s

                      Pretty close to the theoretical maximum of 1 GBit when considering TCP/IP overhead, however the CPU is nearly at max (90-95%, 1 core), so the APU can cope with the GBit traffic, but is stressed to the limit in this simple test.
                      When doing packet forwarding solely in kernel space (without user space processes and thus a lot less context switches/copy operations) the CPU should be able to handle the traffic with ease. Didn't test throughput with smaller, sub-MTU packets though, this should stress the CPU a lot more.

                      Overall a huge improvement over the good old ALIX (had 2 ALIX, now 2 APUs), crypto could be a little faster (~ 30MB/s AES128 CTR + umac128  when doing a simple cat /dev/zero test via SSH connection, compression (obvioulsy) turned off), but since the APU does not have an onboard hardware crypto engine, that's ok in my opinion  :)</big>

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                        tmueko
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                        @tohil:

                        hi

                        i tried to install the embedded version on a 4GB Kingston SD Card. but it doesn't fit, so i used the 2GB nanobsd edition.
                        but when i try to boot, i got errors about mounting the root parition, wrong geometry aborting startup

                        can i fix this by this
                        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_6501_USB_Flash_installation#Root_Mount_error

                        or the USB Boot Problem article?

                        Yes, that are the steps, you have to go, but 'set kern.cam.boot_delay="5000"'  will be enough.

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                        • forbiddenlakeF
                          forbiddenlake
                          last edited by

                          Is there a way to speed up crypto? Like a Mini-PCI crypto accelerator?

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                            doktornotor Banned
                            last edited by

                            @forbiddenlake:

                            Like a Mini-PCI crypto accelerator?

                            No such slot on the board.

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                            • forbiddenlakeF
                              forbiddenlake
                              last edited by

                              @doktornotor:

                              No such slot on the board.

                              ?

                              http://pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm

                              "Expansion: 2 miniPCI express (one with SIM socket)"

                              "Use with …
                              wle200nx miniPCI express wireless module"

                              Looks like it does to me?

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                                tirsojrp
                                last edited by

                                MiniPCI Express not just MiniPCI

                                Use Google

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                                  tmueko
                                  last edited by

                                  I just tracked down my performance-problem with the APU: It is a problem with the realtek-chipset on freebsd! That Device is unusable with pfSense yet:

                                  The same APU, one time bootet with ipfire, one time with pfSense:

                                  ipfire(linux):
                                  [root@ipfire ~]# iperf -c 192.168.0.67 -p 1000
                                  –----------------------------------------------------------
                                  Client connecting to 192.168.0.67, TCP port 1000
                                  TCP window size: 21.0 KByte (default)

                                  [  3] local 192.168.0.7 port 32863 connected with 192.168.0.67 port 1000
                                  [ ID] Interval      Transfer    Bandwidth
                                  [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  667 MBytes  559 Mbits/sec

                                  pfSense-2.1(FreeBSD-8.3)
                                  [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(14): iperf -c 192.168.0.67 -p 1000
                                  –----------------------------------------------------------
                                  Client connecting to 192.168.0.67, TCP port 1000
                                  TCP window size: 65.0 KByte (default)

                                  [  3] local 192.168.0.121 port 9760 connected with 192.168.0.67 port 1000
                                  [ ID] Interval      Transfer    Bandwidth
                                  [  3]  0.0- 2.7 sec  8.62 MBytes  26.4 Mbits/sec

                                  I'll try to build a NanoBSD-Image from 10.0 …

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                                    tohil
                                    last edited by

                                    @tmueko:

                                    @tohil:

                                    hi

                                    i tried to install the embedded version on a 4GB Kingston SD Card. but it doesn't fit, so i used the 2GB nanobsd edition.
                                    but when i try to boot, i got errors about mounting the root parition, wrong geometry aborting startup

                                    can i fix this by this
                                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Soekris_6501_USB_Flash_installation#Root_Mount_error

                                    or the USB Boot Problem article?

                                    Yes, that are the steps, you have to go, but 'set kern.cam.boot_delay="5000"'  will be enough.

                                    Thanks for your reply. Will this maybe added to the nanobsd image as default? also the automatic mapping of the new APU interfaces re0 re1 re2?

                                    I used now the normal installer from a usb stick. i installed the embedded kernel and set a ramdisk for /tmp and /var in the webconfigurator. is this enough, that my SD card will not die in a few weeks or have i better to reinstall the whole boxes with the embedded edition?

                                    regards angelo

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      What makes you think that it's the Realtek driver rather than something else? I'm fully prepare to believe it might be but just curious as to your thinking.
                                      Also your window size is not consistent between those tests so the numbers are not directly comparable. Though the larger window in pfSense should be favourable.

                                      It's better to run Nano on flash media.

                                      Steve

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                                        Oliver_
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                                        @ tmueko

                                        Nice test! would be interesting to test with freebsd 10, hoping the troughput is increasing!

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                                          p1erre
                                          last edited by

                                          @tmueko:

                                          I just tracked down my performance-problem with the APU: It is a problem with the realtek-chipset on freebsd! That Device is unusable with pfSense yet:

                                          The same APU, one time bootet with ipfire, one time with pfSense:

                                          ipfire(linux):
                                          [root@ipfire ~]# iperf -c 192.168.0.67 -p 1000
                                          –----------------------------------------------------------
                                          Client connecting to 192.168.0.67, TCP port 1000
                                          TCP window size: 21.0 KByte (default)

                                          [  3] local 192.168.0.7 port 32863 connected with 192.168.0.67 port 1000
                                          [ ID] Interval      Transfer    Bandwidth
                                          [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  667 MBytes  559 Mbits/sec

                                          pfSense-2.1(FreeBSD-8.3)
                                          [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(14): iperf -c 192.168.0.67 -p 1000
                                          –----------------------------------------------------------
                                          Client connecting to 192.168.0.67, TCP port 1000
                                          TCP window size: 65.0 KByte (default)

                                          [  3] local 192.168.0.121 port 9760 connected with 192.168.0.67 port 1000
                                          [ ID] Interval      Transfer    Bandwidth
                                          [  3]  0.0- 2.7 sec  8.62 MBytes  26.4 Mbits/sec

                                          I'll try to build a NanoBSD-Image from 10.0 …

                                          Hi I just did a quick test from my NAS running Debian Jessie and connected over a 1GB switch to the APU.

                                          iperf -c pfsense -i                                                                                    ⏎
iperf: option requires an argument -- i
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to pfsense, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.30 port 46982 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   357 MBytes   299 Mbits/sec

                                          Pfsense running 2.1.1 Prerelease

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                                          • GruensFroeschliG
                                            GruensFroeschli
                                            last edited by

                                            I have somewhat different results:

                                            
    10.0.8.3                10.0.8.1 (LAN - re0)
    ----------              ----------
    |   PC1  |--------------|  APU   |
    ----------              ----------
                                 |   10.0.42.237 (WAN - re2)
                                 |
                                 |
                          -----------
                          |   PC2   | 10.0.42.2
                          -----------
                                            • pfSense 2.1
                                            • portforward from WAN to PC1
                                            • 50 concurrent iperf connections from PC1 to PC2
                                            • 50 concurrent iperf connections from PC2 to PC1
                                            • Quite constant 440~445 Mbit/s (see quotes below)

                                            @PC1:

                                            TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default)
                                            [SUM] 2230.0-2240.0 sec  259 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2240.0-2250.0 sec  262 MBytes  219 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2250.0-2260.0 sec  257 MBytes  216 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2260.0-2270.0 sec  259 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2270.0-2280.0 sec  257 MBytes  215 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2280.0-2290.0 sec  260 MBytes  219 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2290.0-2300.0 sec  256 MBytes  215 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2300.0-2310.0 sec  258 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2310.0-2320.0 sec  259 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2320.0-2330.0 sec  259 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2330.0-2340.0 sec  260 MBytes  218 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2340.0-2350.0 sec  260 MBytes  218 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2350.0-2360.0 sec  259 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2360.0-2370.0 sec  262 MBytes  219 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2370.0-2380.0 sec  257 MBytes  216 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2380.0-2390.0 sec  260 MBytes  218 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2390.0-2400.0 sec  260 MBytes  218 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2400.0-2410.0 sec  258 MBytes  217 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2410.0-2420.0 sec  260 MBytes  218 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2420.0-2430.0 sec  263 MBytes  220 Mbits/sec

                                            @PC2:

                                            TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default)
                                            [SUM] 2230.0-2240.0 sec  271 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2240.0-2250.0 sec  270 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2250.0-2260.0 sec  270 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2260.0-2270.0 sec  268 MBytes  225 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2270.0-2280.0 sec  268 MBytes  225 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2280.0-2290.0 sec  269 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2290.0-2300.0 sec  270 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2300.0-2310.0 sec  270 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2310.0-2320.0 sec  271 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2320.0-2330.0 sec  269 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2330.0-2340.0 sec  273 MBytes  229 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2340.0-2350.0 sec  271 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2350.0-2360.0 sec  268 MBytes  225 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2360.0-2370.0 sec  268 MBytes  225 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2370.0-2380.0 sec  270 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2380.0-2390.0 sec  270 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2390.0-2400.0 sec  271 MBytes  227 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2400.0-2410.0 sec  269 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2410.0-2420.0 sec  269 MBytes  225 Mbits/sec
                                            [SUM] 2420.0-2430.0 sec  269 MBytes  226 Mbits/sec

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