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    Powerline adapters - speed issue

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      robina80
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      If anyone wants to know its this -

      tp link av500 mini powerline adapter

      model no: tl-pa411

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        bennyc
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        I have a similar model here, also a AV500 (tl-pa4010p), I use them every now and then (lazy patching, allows me to temporary extend any network connection).
        I wouldn't put my money on it, but I think I would have noticed such sort of behaviour. When you say 'plugged into pfSense', what's on that end? (what is your HW?)

        Sure it isn't a wire-mapping issue? Laptops tend to be very forgiving (most do autoMDI-X), firewalls on the other hand…

        4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
        1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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          robina80
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          I have a apu 1c board and then a cable between it and the powerline adapter and that was showing as 10megs on the main pfsense dashboard but as soon as i changed the cable its showing as 100megs

          the powerline can do up to 500megs but the pfsense can only do 10/100/1000 so it must downgrade to 100 as it cant do 500?

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            jasonlitka
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            500Mbit/s isn't an Ethernet standard.  PowerLine devices that claim 500Mbit/s need to use a Gig-E port.

            I can break anything.

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              robina80
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              So it should read 500 then as my devices are all 1 gig?

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                jasonlitka
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                @robina80:

                So it should read 500 then as my devices are all 1 gig?

                No, if working correctly it should read 1Gbit/s because that is the link speed between you and the adapter, you just won't be able to transfer any more than 500Mbit/s because that is the maximum link speed between your powerline adapters.

                EDIT:  I just looked up the model you posted.  That adapter has a 10/100 port on it.  Your link speed should be 100Mbit/s, not 1Gbit/s, and your maximum throughput will be limited accordingly.  The 500Mbit/s on the box is pure marketing BS because you'll never come close.  If you're getting a 100Mbit/s link with the cable changed out then it sounds like everything is working correctly.

                I can break anything.

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                  bennyc
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                  It should advertise gig speed if it is a gig nic, even though the real throughput will be less.
                  But, to confirm you findings, I quickly plugged on into my APU1C, and it also settles on 100M(fd).

                  No idea why…  ::)

                  4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
                  1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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                    jasonlitka
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                    @bennyc:

                    It should advertise gig speed if it is a gig nic, even though the real throughput will be less.
                    But, to confirm you findings, I quickly plugged on into my APU1C, and it also settles on 100M(fd).

                    No idea why…  ::)

                    Read my post above.  The model in question only has a 10/100 port on it.

                    I can break anything.

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                      bennyc
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                      Hà. Good one… Missed your edit. You solved the mistery by reading the manual...  ;D

                      4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
                      1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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                        robina80
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                        now i understand there BS marketing jargon , when they say AV500, the internface is only 10/100, so you will never ever see 500mbps speeds

                        should have really got the AV500 gigabit, least i would have got 500mbps out of them as the interface is a gig

                        i cant believe i have been had!!!

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                          jasonlitka
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                          @robina80:

                          now i understand there BS marketing jargon , when they say AV500, the internface is only 10/100, so you will never ever see 500mbps speeds

                          should have really got the AV500 gigabit, least i would have got 500mbps out of them as the interface is a gig

                          i cant believe i have been had!!!

                          Doubt it.  Think of it like WiFi.  Your link speed may be 300Mbit/s but the odds of you getting more than 40-50% of that, even with line of sight to the AP, are pretty long.  The absolute best of the AV500 adapters are capable of about 250Mbit/s WHEN PLUGGED INTO THE SAME POWER STRIP.  They all drop to 60-80Mbit/s in more realistic residential scenarios.

                          If you really need networking over power lines then I'd suggest waiting a month or two for the AV2 MIMO adapters to start hitting the streets (based on QCA7500).  These should be branded as AV1000 or similar and should be capable of 2-3x the rate of older adapters and be able to maintain higher speeds in less optimal scenarios.

                          I can break anything.

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