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    • denningsrogueD
      denningsrogue
      last edited by

      Here is the specific rule.

      Thanks again for your help.

      ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 09.37.36.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 09.37.36.png)
      ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 09.37.36.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 09.37.36.png_thumb)

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        did you enable/disable it again..  What your saying is just not possible to be honest..

        Can you post up your debug rules ones you disable the rule..  So I have a ssh rule that I keep disabled… I have enabled it and this is what is in my /tmp/rules.debug for port 22, I xx out some of my wan IP and isp gateway

        [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(3): cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22
        rdr on vmx3f0 proto tcp from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 24.13.xx.x port 22 -> 192.168.1.7
        block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
        pass in quick on vmx3f1 proto tcp from any to (vmx3f1) port { 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"
        pass  in log  quick  on $WAN reply-to ( vmx3f0 24.13.xx.xx ) inet proto tcp  from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 192.168.1.7 port 22 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: NAT "

        So I then disabled it, leaving the firewall rule enabled still and then notice my rules.debug grep for 22

        [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(4): cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22
        block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
        pass in quick on vmx3f1 proto tcp from any to (vmx3f1) port { 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"
        pass  in log  quick  on $WAN reply-to ( vmx3f0 24.13.xx.xx ) inet proto tcp  from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 192.168.1.7 port 22 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: NAT "

        Notice the forward is gone..

        And if I check it from outside - blocked.  So lets take a look at your cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22

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        sshblocked.png_thumb</sshlockout></sshlockout>

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        • denningsrogueD
          denningsrogue
          last edited by

          So here is what I have done.

          enabled the ssh forward and rule
          hit save
          disabled the rule
          hit save
          reset the states table

          here is the output from cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22

          rdr on em0 proto tcp from any to 216.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22 -> $miniserver
          block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
          pass in quick on em1 proto tcp from any to (em1) port { 443 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"</sshlockout>

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            so you disabled the port forward or just the firewall rule?

            Because from your rules.debug the port forward is still there, but there is no firewall rule.

            You should not be able to access in that way.. Do you have any firewall rules in your floating?  Something that is maybe allowing all and since you have the forward still it would be allowed?

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            • denningsrogueD
              denningsrogue
              last edited by

              I disabled the rule but not the forward.

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              • denningsrogueD
                denningsrogue
                last edited by

                Here is a screen shot showing all my rules (other than those related to pfblocker)

                ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png)
                ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png_thumb)

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                • denningsrogueD
                  denningsrogue
                  last edited by

                  johnpoz

                  I don't know what you mean by "Do you have any firewall rules in your floating?".

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                  • denningsrogueD
                    denningsrogue
                    last edited by

                    Well I've tried just about everything I can think of.  I deleted both the forward and the rule.  When I conduct a port scan against the public IP, port 22 still shows as open.  Any suggestions would be welcomed.

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                    • denningsrogueD
                      denningsrogue
                      last edited by

                      Is there something i can do from the command line?

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        There's another rule somewhere passing that traffic.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          looking in  your floating tab – are there rules there. These are looked at first before any other rules on specific tabs.

                          Post up your rules.debug file.  Seems to me your not even using pfsense to access this IP your sshing too.

                          Sniff on your wan and lan interfaces when you do this access - you actually see this traffic passthru pfsense?  You actually see a state for this connection?

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                          • denningsrogueD
                            denningsrogue
                            last edited by

                            No floating rules. Here's a screen shot of the tab.

                            [Screen Shot 2014-10-18 at 06.36.56.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-18 at 06.36.56.png)

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Yeah that image is not valid.  So show us this traffic going through pfsense with some simple sniffs, and post up your rules.debug..

                              What does that grep show for 22, as we dig before after you deleted the rules..  There is just no rules showing this should work, so traffic must not be going through pfsense.

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                              • denningsrogueD
                                denningsrogue
                                last edited by

                                Here is the debug file.

                                rules.debug.txt

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                                • denningsrogueD
                                  denningsrogue
                                  last edited by

                                  I have no idea how the traffic could go any where but through pfSense.  The box has 2 NICS. One connected to the outside world and one to the inside.  There is no other software running on the box – its not a virtual implementation.  I have to take my son to a volleyball tournament right now.  I'll run some sniffs when I get back this afternoon.

                                  Again, thank you so much for all your efforts.  I really appreciate it.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Thought you said you deleted the rule??

                                    NAT Inbound Redirects

                                    rdr on em0 proto tcp from any to 216.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22 -> $miniserver

                                    Well being able to hit ssh, you didn't really hide your IP very well - sorry my curiosity got the better of me.  Pretty easy with a /29 mask

                                    So yup 22 is open, and I see the 311 and 625

                                    PORT    STATE  SERVICE
                                    22/tcp  open  ssh
                                    311/tcp  open  asip-webadmin
                                    625/tcp  open  apple-xsrvr-admin

                                    Again you say you deleted your port forward, but its clearly still there…  That needs to be removed..

                                    Also what does miniserver resolve to in your alias?  I personally not a fan of using them in rules where its a single IP..  But you need to get rid of the port forward rule that is still in there.

                                    So do you have UPnP enabled?

                                    UPnPd rdr anchor

                                    rdr-anchor "miniupnpd"

                                    Could this 10.0.1.20 box be opening up the rule, and since seems your nat is still listed?  I am wondering if your rule is also there just not in debug.

                                    Take a look at actual live rules with

                                    pfctl -sa, this will give us everything.  Send it to me PM, or PM me and will send you my personal email address, so your not posting that public.

                                    edit2:  so you have a /29 -- where are the other publics? being used?

                                    how exactly are you connected to the internet??  This is very strange - doing a traceroute to you

                                    13  ler2-axia-ge.yyc.platinum.ca (69.31.193.254)  81.638 ms  81.520 ms  81.319 ms
                                    14  10.17.3.6 (10.17.3.6)  76.219 ms  83.418 ms  79.970 ms
                                    15  10.17.2.6 (10.17.2.6)  106.304 ms  106.985 ms  96.545 ms

                                    How can there be 10.x addresses in the trace from me to you?? I can say I have never seen such a thing before!!

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                                    • denningsrogueD
                                      denningsrogue
                                      last edited by

                                      When removing the forward and rule didnot work I put them back.

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                                      • denningsrogueD
                                        denningsrogue
                                        last edited by

                                        Mini server is 10.0.1.20

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          "When removing the forward and rule didnot work I put them back. "

                                          what does pfctl -sa show for when you remove them!!

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                                          • C
                                            cmb
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz:

                                            how exactly are you connected to the internet??  This is very strange - doing a traceroute to you

                                            13  ler2-axia-ge.yyc.platinum.ca (69.31.193.254)  81.638 ms  81.520 ms  81.319 ms
                                            14  10.17.3.6 (10.17.3.6)  76.219 ms  83.418 ms  79.970 ms
                                            15  10.17.2.6 (10.17.2.6)  106.304 ms  106.985 ms  96.545 ms

                                            How can there be 10.x addresses in the trace from me to you??

                                            Some routers in the path there with private IP addressing. Generally ISPs don't do that for a variety of reasons, but there are some (largely outside the US, where IP space is more scarce) who have no choice. Some use CGNAT reserved IP space for that as well, and some do questionable things like Shaw Canada uses US DoD-assigned 7.0.0.0/8 IP space internally (DoD doesn't announce 7./8 on the Internet so that's OK…for now at least).

                                            That's less than ideal, but not in and of itself indicative of any kind of problem.

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