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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      did you enable/disable it again..  What your saying is just not possible to be honest..

      Can you post up your debug rules ones you disable the rule..  So I have a ssh rule that I keep disabled… I have enabled it and this is what is in my /tmp/rules.debug for port 22, I xx out some of my wan IP and isp gateway

      [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(3): cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22
      rdr on vmx3f0 proto tcp from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 24.13.xx.x port 22 -> 192.168.1.7
      block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
      pass in quick on vmx3f1 proto tcp from any to (vmx3f1) port { 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"
      pass  in log  quick  on $WAN reply-to ( vmx3f0 24.13.xx.xx ) inet proto tcp  from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 192.168.1.7 port 22 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: NAT "

      So I then disabled it, leaving the firewall rule enabled still and then notice my rules.debug grep for 22

      [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(4): cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22
      block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
      pass in quick on vmx3f1 proto tcp from any to (vmx3f1) port { 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"
      pass  in log  quick  on $WAN reply-to ( vmx3f0 24.13.xx.xx ) inet proto tcp  from ! $pfBlockerTopSpammers to 192.168.1.7 port 22 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: NAT "

      Notice the forward is gone..

      And if I check it from outside - blocked.  So lets take a look at your cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22

      ssh.png
      ssh.png_thumb
      disabledssh.png
      disabledssh.png_thumb
      sshblocked.png
      sshblocked.png_thumb</sshlockout></sshlockout>

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      • denningsrogueD
        denningsrogue
        last edited by

        So here is what I have done.

        enabled the ssh forward and rule
        hit save
        disabled the rule
        hit save
        reset the states table

        here is the output from cat /tmp/rules.debug | grep 22

        rdr on em0 proto tcp from any to 216.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22 -> $miniserver
        block in log quick proto tcp from <sshlockout>to (self) port 22 label "sshlockout"
        pass in quick on em1 proto tcp from any to (em1) port { 443 80 22 } keep state label "anti-lockout rule"</sshlockout>

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          so you disabled the port forward or just the firewall rule?

          Because from your rules.debug the port forward is still there, but there is no firewall rule.

          You should not be able to access in that way.. Do you have any firewall rules in your floating?  Something that is maybe allowing all and since you have the forward still it would be allowed?

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          • denningsrogueD
            denningsrogue
            last edited by

            I disabled the rule but not the forward.

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            • denningsrogueD
              denningsrogue
              last edited by

              Here is a screen shot showing all my rules (other than those related to pfblocker)

              ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png)
              ![Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-17 at 15.02.38.png_thumb)

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              • denningsrogueD
                denningsrogue
                last edited by

                johnpoz

                I don't know what you mean by "Do you have any firewall rules in your floating?".

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                • denningsrogueD
                  denningsrogue
                  last edited by

                  Well I've tried just about everything I can think of.  I deleted both the forward and the rule.  When I conduct a port scan against the public IP, port 22 still shows as open.  Any suggestions would be welcomed.

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                  • denningsrogueD
                    denningsrogue
                    last edited by

                    Is there something i can do from the command line?

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      There's another rule somewhere passing that traffic.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        looking in  your floating tab – are there rules there. These are looked at first before any other rules on specific tabs.

                        Post up your rules.debug file.  Seems to me your not even using pfsense to access this IP your sshing too.

                        Sniff on your wan and lan interfaces when you do this access - you actually see this traffic passthru pfsense?  You actually see a state for this connection?

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                        • denningsrogueD
                          denningsrogue
                          last edited by

                          No floating rules. Here's a screen shot of the tab.

                          [Screen Shot 2014-10-18 at 06.36.56.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 2014-10-18 at 06.36.56.png)

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            Yeah that image is not valid.  So show us this traffic going through pfsense with some simple sniffs, and post up your rules.debug..

                            What does that grep show for 22, as we dig before after you deleted the rules..  There is just no rules showing this should work, so traffic must not be going through pfsense.

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                            • denningsrogueD
                              denningsrogue
                              last edited by

                              Here is the debug file.

                              rules.debug.txt

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                              • denningsrogueD
                                denningsrogue
                                last edited by

                                I have no idea how the traffic could go any where but through pfSense.  The box has 2 NICS. One connected to the outside world and one to the inside.  There is no other software running on the box – its not a virtual implementation.  I have to take my son to a volleyball tournament right now.  I'll run some sniffs when I get back this afternoon.

                                Again, thank you so much for all your efforts.  I really appreciate it.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  Thought you said you deleted the rule??

                                  NAT Inbound Redirects

                                  rdr on em0 proto tcp from any to 216.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22 -> $miniserver

                                  Well being able to hit ssh, you didn't really hide your IP very well - sorry my curiosity got the better of me.  Pretty easy with a /29 mask

                                  So yup 22 is open, and I see the 311 and 625

                                  PORT    STATE  SERVICE
                                  22/tcp  open  ssh
                                  311/tcp  open  asip-webadmin
                                  625/tcp  open  apple-xsrvr-admin

                                  Again you say you deleted your port forward, but its clearly still there…  That needs to be removed..

                                  Also what does miniserver resolve to in your alias?  I personally not a fan of using them in rules where its a single IP..  But you need to get rid of the port forward rule that is still in there.

                                  So do you have UPnP enabled?

                                  UPnPd rdr anchor

                                  rdr-anchor "miniupnpd"

                                  Could this 10.0.1.20 box be opening up the rule, and since seems your nat is still listed?  I am wondering if your rule is also there just not in debug.

                                  Take a look at actual live rules with

                                  pfctl -sa, this will give us everything.  Send it to me PM, or PM me and will send you my personal email address, so your not posting that public.

                                  edit2:  so you have a /29 -- where are the other publics? being used?

                                  how exactly are you connected to the internet??  This is very strange - doing a traceroute to you

                                  13  ler2-axia-ge.yyc.platinum.ca (69.31.193.254)  81.638 ms  81.520 ms  81.319 ms
                                  14  10.17.3.6 (10.17.3.6)  76.219 ms  83.418 ms  79.970 ms
                                  15  10.17.2.6 (10.17.2.6)  106.304 ms  106.985 ms  96.545 ms

                                  How can there be 10.x addresses in the trace from me to you?? I can say I have never seen such a thing before!!

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                                  • denningsrogueD
                                    denningsrogue
                                    last edited by

                                    When removing the forward and rule didnot work I put them back.

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                                    • denningsrogueD
                                      denningsrogue
                                      last edited by

                                      Mini server is 10.0.1.20

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        "When removing the forward and rule didnot work I put them back. "

                                        what does pfctl -sa show for when you remove them!!

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                                        • C
                                          cmb
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz:

                                          how exactly are you connected to the internet??  This is very strange - doing a traceroute to you

                                          13  ler2-axia-ge.yyc.platinum.ca (69.31.193.254)  81.638 ms  81.520 ms  81.319 ms
                                          14  10.17.3.6 (10.17.3.6)  76.219 ms  83.418 ms  79.970 ms
                                          15  10.17.2.6 (10.17.2.6)  106.304 ms  106.985 ms  96.545 ms

                                          How can there be 10.x addresses in the trace from me to you??

                                          Some routers in the path there with private IP addressing. Generally ISPs don't do that for a variety of reasons, but there are some (largely outside the US, where IP space is more scarce) who have no choice. Some use CGNAT reserved IP space for that as well, and some do questionable things like Shaw Canada uses US DoD-assigned 7.0.0.0/8 IP space internally (DoD doesn't announce 7./8 on the Internet so that's OK…for now at least).

                                          That's less than ideal, but not in and of itself indicative of any kind of problem.

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                                          • denningsrogueD
                                            denningsrogue
                                            last edited by

                                            With the great help of johnpoz I finally got port 22 closed.  I had to delete my ssh forward and rule and then reboot.  Thanks again John.

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