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    [Solved] SSHD not starting after upgrade to 2.2

    Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      cellobita
      last edited by

      I have successfully upgraded about twenty pfSense installs, from 2.1.5 to 2.2; on a couple of them, however, the SSHD service fails to start, and SSH access is therefore unavailable.

      I have tried starting the service via the GUI, to no avail; manually executing /usr/sbin/sshd results in the following error messages:

      Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key
      Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key
      

      Any ideas?

      TIA

      Marcello
      São Paulo - SP - Brazil

      Marcello Marques
      Santos - SP - Brazil

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        NOYB
        last edited by

        I also had some trouble getting SSH to work.

        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87548.0

        Does the console option 14 say to enable or disable ssh?

        If you run console option 14 does it change option from one to the other?  Mine would not.  Always stayed on enable ssh.  But would prompt as though it was already enabled and ask to disable.  And visa-versa.  Like something was out of sync and the toggle action would turn something on and something else off.

        Then enabling it in web gui worked for me.  So your issue sounds a little different.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Do those files exist and do they look sane?  Should contain:

          –---BEGIN EC PRIVATE KEY-----
          blah blah blah
          -----END EC PRIVATE KEY-----

          and

          -----BEGIN OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY-----
          blah blah blah
          -----END OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY-----

          (don't post yours.  :/)

          I think they're created when you upgrade to 2.2, or when sshd first starts after upgrading.

          I don't know what the trigger is to make them regenerate.  If they exist and contain bad keys, I'd delete them and their corresponding .pub files and see if starting sshd creates new ones.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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            cellobita
            last edited by

            They do not exist:

            $ ls -ahl /etc/ssh/
            total 560
            drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel   512B Jan 29 00:46 .
            drwxr-xr-x  29 root  wheel   4.5K Jan 29 00:48 ..
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   236K Jan 22 19:07 moduli
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   1.6K Jan 22 19:07 ssh_config
            -rw-------   1 root  wheel   672B Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_dsa_key
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   613B Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
            -rw-------   1 root  wheel   988B Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_key
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   653B Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_key.pub
            -rw-------   1 root  wheel   1.6K Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_rsa_key
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   405B Jul 27  2013 ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
            -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   436B Jan 29 01:03 sshd_config
            

            I've checked on another system that upgraded without issues, and they are there.

            Disabling and reenabling Secure Shell via the GUI doesn't work.

            Guess my next question is, how do I (re)generate those files without reinstalling?

            Marcello Marques
            Santos - SP - Brazil

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              I know you can just gen them with the right ssh-keygen commands but there's probably something you can do that will make them regenerate automatically.  I don't know what that is.

              You can try this in the shell:

              cd /etc/ssh
              ssh-keygen -N '' -t ecdsa -f ssh_host_ecdsa_key
              ssh-keygen -N '' -t ed25519 -f ssh_host_ed25519_key

              '' is two single quotes indicating an empty passphrase.

              Then start sshd and see what happens.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                cellobita
                last edited by

                It worked! I had to use the command prompt via the GUI (I'm far from the customer), and so had to concatenate the command into a single line, but this did the trick:

                cd /etc/ssh ; ssh-keygen -N '' -t ecdsa -f ssh_host_ecdsa_key ; ssh-keygen -N '' -t ed25519 -f ssh_host_ed25519_key ; /usr/sbin/sshd
                

                I'll follow both boxes closely to see if there are any additional issues, but for the moment everything seems in order.

                Many thanks!

                Marcello
                São Paulo - SP - Brazil

                Marcello Marques
                Santos - SP - Brazil

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  I think the only problem would be rebooting.  If those keys are stored in config.xml and overwritten on a reboot, you might lose them.  I don't see anything in the config file and I can't remember if keys are regenerated on a reinstall/restore or not.  I think they might be so you might be ok.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    cellobita
                    last edited by

                    Tried rebooting, the SSH daemon came back up without a hitch - the issue seems solved, but I'll keep a close watch on both boxes.

                    Marcello Marques
                    Santos - SP - Brazil

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                      kejianshi
                      last edited by

                      Install service watchdog and add all your services to it (like SSH).

                      I'd almost recommend this to be a default setting in pfsense now.

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                        cmb
                        last edited by

                        Those are the two types of keys it generates post-upgrade (they didn't exist in earlier versions). It'll generate those in the background, which delays the start of SSH until it's completed. That happens very quickly on fast CPUs, but will take some time on something like a 500 MHz Geode. Regardless, it should always still start once that is complete.

                        OP's issue is it somehow failed to generate those keys.

                        cellobita: if you still have system logs from the reboot (Diag>Command, 'clog /var/log/system.log' to dump the full history), do you see anything in there about SSH or key generation?

                        @NOYB:

                        If you run console option 14 does it change option from one to the other?  Mine would not.  Always stayed on enable ssh.

                        That menu is a bit of a hack in that regard - "Enable SSH" means sshd is not running, "Disable SSH" means sshd is running. So it's not necessarily correct with the setting in the config, though before this thread I'd yet to hear of anyone seeing it show incorrectly.

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                          cellobita
                          last edited by

                          Sorry, they seem to go back a few hours only, and the upgrade was performed days ago - whatever the logs showed, it isn't there anymore…

                          Marcello Marques
                          Santos - SP - Brazil

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                            kejianshi
                            last edited by

                            I wonder what would happen if someone cut the power or rebooted during key generation?

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                              cmb
                              last edited by

                              @kejianshi:

                              I wonder what would happen if someone cut the power or rebooted during key generation?

                              Shouldn't matter, if the keys aren't there, they'll be generated at the next boot, and they won't be put into place until they're generated.

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                                cellobita
                                last edited by

                                I must confess that I didn't try rebooting the box(es) after the upgrade - I just assumed (wrongly?) that the generation of both keys was triggered by the upgrade, and not something that would happen again if they weren't there during the startup process.

                                Anyway, as mentioned before all my twenty or so pfSense installs are now on 2.2, and everything is working smoothly - my sincerest thanks to the developers, I wish every other piece of software in use on my customers was as reliable as this. Kudos!

                                Marcello
                                São Paulo - SP - Brazil

                                Marcello Marques
                                Santos - SP - Brazil

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