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    [Solved] SSHD not starting after upgrade to 2.2

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      I know you can just gen them with the right ssh-keygen commands but there's probably something you can do that will make them regenerate automatically.  I don't know what that is.

      You can try this in the shell:

      cd /etc/ssh
      ssh-keygen -N '' -t ecdsa -f ssh_host_ecdsa_key
      ssh-keygen -N '' -t ed25519 -f ssh_host_ed25519_key

      '' is two single quotes indicating an empty passphrase.

      Then start sshd and see what happens.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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        cellobita
        last edited by

        It worked! I had to use the command prompt via the GUI (I'm far from the customer), and so had to concatenate the command into a single line, but this did the trick:

        cd /etc/ssh ; ssh-keygen -N '' -t ecdsa -f ssh_host_ecdsa_key ; ssh-keygen -N '' -t ed25519 -f ssh_host_ed25519_key ; /usr/sbin/sshd
        

        I'll follow both boxes closely to see if there are any additional issues, but for the moment everything seems in order.

        Many thanks!

        Marcello
        São Paulo - SP - Brazil

        Marcello Marques
        Santos - SP - Brazil

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          I think the only problem would be rebooting.  If those keys are stored in config.xml and overwritten on a reboot, you might lose them.  I don't see anything in the config file and I can't remember if keys are regenerated on a reinstall/restore or not.  I think they might be so you might be ok.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            cellobita
            last edited by

            Tried rebooting, the SSH daemon came back up without a hitch - the issue seems solved, but I'll keep a close watch on both boxes.

            Marcello Marques
            Santos - SP - Brazil

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              kejianshi
              last edited by

              Install service watchdog and add all your services to it (like SSH).

              I'd almost recommend this to be a default setting in pfsense now.

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                cmb
                last edited by

                Those are the two types of keys it generates post-upgrade (they didn't exist in earlier versions). It'll generate those in the background, which delays the start of SSH until it's completed. That happens very quickly on fast CPUs, but will take some time on something like a 500 MHz Geode. Regardless, it should always still start once that is complete.

                OP's issue is it somehow failed to generate those keys.

                cellobita: if you still have system logs from the reboot (Diag>Command, 'clog /var/log/system.log' to dump the full history), do you see anything in there about SSH or key generation?

                @NOYB:

                If you run console option 14 does it change option from one to the other?  Mine would not.  Always stayed on enable ssh.

                That menu is a bit of a hack in that regard - "Enable SSH" means sshd is not running, "Disable SSH" means sshd is running. So it's not necessarily correct with the setting in the config, though before this thread I'd yet to hear of anyone seeing it show incorrectly.

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                  cellobita
                  last edited by

                  Sorry, they seem to go back a few hours only, and the upgrade was performed days ago - whatever the logs showed, it isn't there anymore…

                  Marcello Marques
                  Santos - SP - Brazil

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                    kejianshi
                    last edited by

                    I wonder what would happen if someone cut the power or rebooted during key generation?

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                      cmb
                      last edited by

                      @kejianshi:

                      I wonder what would happen if someone cut the power or rebooted during key generation?

                      Shouldn't matter, if the keys aren't there, they'll be generated at the next boot, and they won't be put into place until they're generated.

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                        cellobita
                        last edited by

                        I must confess that I didn't try rebooting the box(es) after the upgrade - I just assumed (wrongly?) that the generation of both keys was triggered by the upgrade, and not something that would happen again if they weren't there during the startup process.

                        Anyway, as mentioned before all my twenty or so pfSense installs are now on 2.2, and everything is working smoothly - my sincerest thanks to the developers, I wish every other piece of software in use on my customers was as reliable as this. Kudos!

                        Marcello
                        São Paulo - SP - Brazil

                        Marcello Marques
                        Santos - SP - Brazil

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