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    Blocking SSH - Firewall Rule Troubles - SOLVED

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      And you mention you see stuff in the logs for attempted auth.. And what IP are they authing too?

      If that is the IP I can validate if ssh is open to the public.

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        tha_toadman
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        That's what I had done originally…

        I did the same. My rules don't seem to work after I enable the SSH server via the checkbox.

        Floating:
        block    IPv4 TCP/UDP * 22 (SSH) WAN address 22 (SSH) * none

        WAN:
        block    IPv4 TCP/UDP * 22 (SSH) WAN address 22 (SSH) * none

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          acherman
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          I just added the rules again and changed the port back to default 22.  You can try to SSH to 64.141.125.250, .251 or .254 (CARP).

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            tha_toadman
            last edited by

            I just added the rules again and changed the port back to default 22.  You can try to SSH to 64.141.125.250, .251 or .254 (CARP).

            They are all open. Sounds like your rules aren't working either.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              Source is not going to be 22  source could be ANY, and ssh is not UDP..

              And yes that is open!! on the 250, 251 and 254

              login as:

              Password for admin@router1.morad:

              251 shows
              steve.morad

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                tha_toadman
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                Ah, yep. Good point. I'll make the change and try again.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  dude you should not have to put in any rules.. There is a default DENY!!  Are you allowing traffic in like the OP?

                  if your going to block it has to be above your allow rule - post your rules.

                  If you have an allow for that segment, then above it put in a block to those specific addresses.

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                    acherman
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                    For me, I pretty much never put in a source port.  As others have said, they are usually random, so no point.  And also, I put them right at the top - since they are handled from the top down, start with the most specific and go from there.

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                      acherman
                      last edited by

                      My DMZ, or Public routed interface rules look like this now…

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        so anherman - are you rules in place to block it then?  Cuz they are still open.  2 all 3 IPs.

                        So you have a 1:1 nat setup or something?  Or your just routing the traffic?

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                          acherman
                          last edited by

                          Yup, those rules are active.  No, no 1:1 set up at all.  I do have some inbound stuff set up, but specific ports like 21, 80, 443, etc.  Although I do have a couple that I have all ports forwarded to 3 customer devices, just because I don't know what ports they use - those are the ones noted in the middle of the WAN rules (noted as BCM access).  But those are other IPs.  Dumb question, how can I see what IP's they are trying to get authed on?  My pfflowd packages aren't  working, so I'm not sure how to look.

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                            tha_toadman
                            last edited by

                            For me, I pretty much never put in a source port.  As others have said, they are usually random, so no point.  And also, I put them right at the top - since they are handled from the top down, start with the most specific and go from there.

                            Yeah it was towards the end of the day when I put that original rule in. I've since modified it to read as:

                            block  IPv4 TCP * * WAN address 22 (SSH) * none

                            I've corrected both the Floating and the WAN but I'm still telling you, SSH is open. The default deny isn't working in this case. Once that SSH server is enabled, it's WAN accessible on my box.

                            My top 3 rules on the WAN tab (apologies on the formatting):

                            block *            Reserved/not assigned by IANA * * *                         *        *   * Block bogon networks
                            block *         Private_Networks                      * *      *                         *      none (custom rule)
                            block IPv4 TCP *                                         * WAN address 22 (SSH) * none Block SSH remote access

                            I don't have any 1:1 going either.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              ok heres another thing - once you create the rules to block.  You have to kill the states.. So for example got in.. You need to kill all the states from my IP, or flush them all.  Or have to wait til they expire.

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                                acherman
                                last edited by

                                I actually added the rules, and then I turned SSH on and back to 22.  Would that have not allowed the states to begin with?  Or no?

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  no that would not have flushed the states in the firewall.  That just tells the box to listen or not listen.

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                                    acherman
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay, I just reset all states - that should confuse some people.  I will watch the logs now…

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      so you do understand its not just ssh that is open

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        If you PM a login - I would be happy to take a look to what is going on.

                                        And ssh is still open..  If you flushed the states..  You go something major issue here..  Either your rules are not being applied or you have something that in front of it allowing it.

                                        pfctl -sa

                                        Lets take a look at the rules..

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                                          acherman
                                          last edited by

                                          PM sent.  Thanks John.

                                          Just joking.  Apparently I hit the email button instead.

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                            I don't even know where to start with what's wrong with your rules.  You might want to start over.

                                            Of course everything is open.  You are connecting to something on PUBLIC net.  He has pass any any rules for that subnet from WAN1/WAN2.

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