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      kejianshi
      last edited by

      SSH is pretty durable if you use a long/complex password.  You can also move it to a high numbered port for a little obscurity.  VPN also - use difficult passwords and also certificates for user authentication.

      Don't expose your gui though.

      Yeah - wipe the box and reinstall by hand.  Don't use your config backup.

      At least thats what I would do.

      If its a windows admin machine thats compromised, they have your keystrokes.  This is the easiest way for someone to "hack" your box BTW.

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        blueart
        last edited by

        SSH Password is 20+ char. with different numbers and all that stuff so that should be good to go.
        OpenVPN is access able via Certificate.

        The only thing unsafe, was that the GUI was exposed at a PublicIP for everyone reachable.

        The Admin PC should be secured. I will check that before I will reinstall the box.

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          kejianshi
          last edited by

          If I was doing anything for a business, I'd use a non-windows computer to admin the pfsense and would make it a no-personal-bs box.

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            blueart
            last edited by

            Yeah normally I use my Linux Laptop to administrate the box but sometimes it has to windows.

            I was going through the logs of the box and it really was an attack over the webGUI.

            Mar 16 08:15:06 hostname php: /index.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 18.239.0.140
            Mar 16 08:15:06 hostname php: /index.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 18.239.0.140
            Mar 16 08:17:18 hostname shutdown: reboot by root:
            Mar 16 08:17:18 hostname shutdown: reboot by root:

            edit:
            I can tell from which IP's I will access this box. Since they are all static and only 3 diffrent. And I don't have access to any Server in the MIT network.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Yikes.  :o
              You never want to see that.

              Steve

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                kejianshi
                last edited by

                Hackers out of MIT?  haha…

                Go figure...

                Yeah - wipe and reinstall by hand.

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                  blueart
                  last edited by

                  I will try to export only the Firewall Rules and OpenVPN Server config and check them, because the rules are too much to do them by hand and also the VPNServer configs. But I need to change the keys since they are no longer save.

                  Thanks for your help!!!

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                    kejianshi
                    last edited by

                    Good deal.

                    BTW - Nice of your hacker friends to maintain your network for you.  I've only ever known one set of hackers to do such a thing.  Interesting.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Yuk.  I have to know.  Was it still admin/pfsense?

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        kejianshi
                        last edited by

                        haha - I'd assumed no, but thats actually a great question.

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                          blueart
                          last edited by

                          no :) it was admin with a 26 char password containing letters,numbers and special characters.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            Umm.  Ok.  Were you sniffed somewhere?  Was http/80 available?  Was that what you used when outside?

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            • BBcan177B
                              BBcan177 Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Pretty bad Rep on that IP.

                              https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_18.239.0.140

                              https://www.senderbase.org/lookup/ip/?search_string=18.239.0.140

                              That IP is listed in the Snort BL that I use for pfBlockerNG:

                              https://labs.snort.org/feeds/ip-filter.blf

                              grep "^18.239.0." /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/*

                              /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/BadIPs.txt:18.239.0.126
                                /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Snort_BL.txt:18.239.0.140
                                /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Snort_BL.txt:18.239.0.155

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                                kejianshi
                                last edited by

                                I'm pretty sure its a proxy address used by lots of people.  Thats not the biggest deal.  Whats on the other side of that pfsense?  Anything important?

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                                • BBcan177B
                                  BBcan177 Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Also listed in the Spamhaus XBL list.
                                    http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=18.239.0.140

                                  It is also listed in MaxMind Inc. Anonymous Proxy list:
                                    https://www.maxmind.com/en/proxy/18.239.0.140

                                  Stop Forum Spam - appears in our database 402 times. Current country of … 14-Mar-15 13:54
                                  www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/18.239.0.140

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                                    cmb
                                    last edited by

                                    Was that 2.1-RELEASE, not 2.1.2 or newer? If so, that was Heartbleed vulnerable. Definitely could be compromised through either OpenVPN (if a server is listening and not using TLS auth) and the web interface since it was open to the world. That's my best guess as to what happened. Given it was upgraded, sounds like maybe someone hacking Heartbleed vulnerable devices to patch them.

                                    That IP is clearly a compromised machine of some sort, given the spam and other abuse coming out of it. Though it's odd that someone into spamming would be going around fixing people's security vulnerabilities. I'd expect them to want to be silent, to keep access to the system without you being aware. It's not uncommon for attackers to patch a system after they compromise it, because they don't want others to hack "their" systems, but usually done more quietly so the system's owner is unaware.

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                                      cmb
                                      last edited by

                                      Actually that's a Tor exit node, which changes things a bit. It's potentially anyone in the world, not just a machine controlled by some spammers/hackers. More likely to have "altruistic" possibilities in that case.

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                                        blueart
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes it was still 2.1 since I never got the downtime to patch it :( Which I did now….

                                        the WebGUI of the PFsense was available via HTTPs on the OPT1 Interface which is the DMZ.
                                        In the DMZ thare are a  couple of WebServer, Lync Frontend and the usual stuff.
                                        The PFsense is also holding a couple of VPN Tunnels to remote Sites and Remote Access for VPN Clients.
                                        And all the Clients have been using OpenVPN without TLS!!!

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                                          kejianshi
                                          last edited by

                                          You think the hacker hacked his system and patched it to be nice?

                                          Or that the TOR node is made available to be nice?  (This on I can believe)

                                          Heartbleed - I didn't even consider that but really I should have.

                                          Unless I'm understanding wrong, you have to update not only the pfsense but also any SSH or Openvpn client accessing it.

                                          Any unpatched server or client makes everything vulnerable.  Is this correct?

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                                          • BBcan177B
                                            BBcan177 Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Since I had De-Duplication on in pfBNG my first search only showed that IP in one list, i did a full search for that IP and it is a TOR exit node and listed on more Lists…

                                            grep "^18.239.0." *

                                            Blut_Tor.orig:18.239.0.140
                                              ET_IPrep.orig:18.239.0.140
                                              Greensnow.orig:18.239.0.155
                                              Iblock_TOR.orig:18.239.0.155/32
                                              Infiltrated.orig:18.239.0.140
                                              Snort_BL.orig:18.239.0.140

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