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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yikes.  :o
      You never want to see that.

      Steve

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        kejianshi
        last edited by

        Hackers out of MIT?  haha…

        Go figure...

        Yeah - wipe and reinstall by hand.

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          blueart
          last edited by

          I will try to export only the Firewall Rules and OpenVPN Server config and check them, because the rules are too much to do them by hand and also the VPNServer configs. But I need to change the keys since they are no longer save.

          Thanks for your help!!!

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            kejianshi
            last edited by

            Good deal.

            BTW - Nice of your hacker friends to maintain your network for you.  I've only ever known one set of hackers to do such a thing.  Interesting.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Yuk.  I have to know.  Was it still admin/pfsense?

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                kejianshi
                last edited by

                haha - I'd assumed no, but thats actually a great question.

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                  blueart
                  last edited by

                  no :) it was admin with a 26 char password containing letters,numbers and special characters.

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Umm.  Ok.  Were you sniffed somewhere?  Was http/80 available?  Was that what you used when outside?

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    • BBcan177B
                      BBcan177 Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Pretty bad Rep on that IP.

                      https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_18.239.0.140

                      https://www.senderbase.org/lookup/ip/?search_string=18.239.0.140

                      That IP is listed in the Snort BL that I use for pfBlockerNG:

                      https://labs.snort.org/feeds/ip-filter.blf

                      grep "^18.239.0." /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/*

                      /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/BadIPs.txt:18.239.0.126
                        /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Snort_BL.txt:18.239.0.140
                        /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Snort_BL.txt:18.239.0.155

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                        kejianshi
                        last edited by

                        I'm pretty sure its a proxy address used by lots of people.  Thats not the biggest deal.  Whats on the other side of that pfsense?  Anything important?

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                        • BBcan177B
                          BBcan177 Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Also listed in the Spamhaus XBL list.
                            http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=18.239.0.140

                          It is also listed in MaxMind Inc. Anonymous Proxy list:
                            https://www.maxmind.com/en/proxy/18.239.0.140

                          Stop Forum Spam - appears in our database 402 times. Current country of … 14-Mar-15 13:54
                          www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/18.239.0.140

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                            cmb
                            last edited by

                            Was that 2.1-RELEASE, not 2.1.2 or newer? If so, that was Heartbleed vulnerable. Definitely could be compromised through either OpenVPN (if a server is listening and not using TLS auth) and the web interface since it was open to the world. That's my best guess as to what happened. Given it was upgraded, sounds like maybe someone hacking Heartbleed vulnerable devices to patch them.

                            That IP is clearly a compromised machine of some sort, given the spam and other abuse coming out of it. Though it's odd that someone into spamming would be going around fixing people's security vulnerabilities. I'd expect them to want to be silent, to keep access to the system without you being aware. It's not uncommon for attackers to patch a system after they compromise it, because they don't want others to hack "their" systems, but usually done more quietly so the system's owner is unaware.

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                              cmb
                              last edited by

                              Actually that's a Tor exit node, which changes things a bit. It's potentially anyone in the world, not just a machine controlled by some spammers/hackers. More likely to have "altruistic" possibilities in that case.

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                                blueart
                                last edited by

                                Yes it was still 2.1 since I never got the downtime to patch it :( Which I did now….

                                the WebGUI of the PFsense was available via HTTPs on the OPT1 Interface which is the DMZ.
                                In the DMZ thare are a  couple of WebServer, Lync Frontend and the usual stuff.
                                The PFsense is also holding a couple of VPN Tunnels to remote Sites and Remote Access for VPN Clients.
                                And all the Clients have been using OpenVPN without TLS!!!

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                                  kejianshi
                                  last edited by

                                  You think the hacker hacked his system and patched it to be nice?

                                  Or that the TOR node is made available to be nice?  (This on I can believe)

                                  Heartbleed - I didn't even consider that but really I should have.

                                  Unless I'm understanding wrong, you have to update not only the pfsense but also any SSH or Openvpn client accessing it.

                                  Any unpatched server or client makes everything vulnerable.  Is this correct?

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                                  • BBcan177B
                                    BBcan177 Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Since I had De-Duplication on in pfBNG my first search only showed that IP in one list, i did a full search for that IP and it is a TOR exit node and listed on more Lists…

                                    grep "^18.239.0." *

                                    Blut_Tor.orig:18.239.0.140
                                      ET_IPrep.orig:18.239.0.140
                                      Greensnow.orig:18.239.0.155
                                      Iblock_TOR.orig:18.239.0.155/32
                                      Infiltrated.orig:18.239.0.140
                                      Snort_BL.orig:18.239.0.140

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                                      cmb
                                      last edited by

                                      @kejianshi:

                                      You think the hacker hacked his system and patched it to be nice?

                                      Possibly. That or they're super inept given absolutely no attempts to clear up their tracks - no clearing of logs showing their login and IP, and probably other traces left behind.

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                                        kejianshi
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah - These guys left alot of evidence behind.  Pretty sloppy…  Barely better than I could do (-:

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          So the prevailing concern at the time was that heartbleed would divulge private key material.  Are you saying that you think it divulged the admin password instead?

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            kejianshi
                                            last edited by

                                            Not sure what others were thinking, but yeah.  Credentials seems to be on the menu with heartbleed as well as other memory contents.

                                            http://heartbleed.com has a list of the various impacts and what could be compromised (everything in this case it would seem).

                                            I still wouldn't assume the way in didn't start with a compromised windows machine though.

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