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    • N
      Nullity
      last edited by

      Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

      Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
      -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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        sideout
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        No I haven't but then I don't really care because I am setting real time limits on my high level queues anyways so they have reserved space on the meter.

        I use the load balancing limiter so it shares my bandwidth that I set equally for the most part across all the people trying to download.

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          sideout
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          For me , with having qDNS and qACK with reserved bandwidth along with my other queues , like qLoL and qGames , I am able to put my own level of priority into it.  LAN parties are unique situations to shape and deal with.

          You have all kinds of games running from Plants versus Zombies running TCP to LoL and Blizzard games using UDP then throw in Steam downloads and LoL downloads and you can have a mess real fast without some control.

          This config is probably my best one yet and the result of about 6 LAN parties of playing with along with running it at home on my network.

          I am far from a technical HFSC person however , I know that I can run it on my PFSense and get it to do what I need it to do.  Hopefully now that I have golden config , I won't have to mess with it alot and be able to enjoy the LAN's more than in the past.

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            Nullity
            last edited by

            If it works, it works. I am mostly theory and simulation, with very little real-world experience.

            Dealing with bulk download traffic is something I am trying to learn more about.

            Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
            -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Is there a specific reason you don't have qACK configured with any realtime?

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              • KOMK
                KOM
                last edited by

                Thanks for the post.

                Limiter is set at 40Mbit so be aware of that.

                Where is that?  I didn't see an actual limiter defined if that's what you mean.  I do see the WAN set to 5.5 Mbps, which I believe is the only thing that needs to be modified to suit the bandwidth?

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                  sideout
                  last edited by

                  Traffic shaper  > Limiter > Download queue - set to 40Mbit

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                    sideout
                    last edited by

                    Here it is.

                    Limiter1.JPG
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                      sideout
                      last edited by

                      @Derelict:

                      Is there a specific reason you don't have qACK configured with any realtime?

                      In the lan party config i have it set to realtime. This is my home / lan party config and i changed it back to just link share here.  I set it to realtime of 10 at the LAN.

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM
                        last edited by

                        OK, thanks.  I thought it was something that was missing from the shaper config.xml.  If you have a 40 Mbps limiter, why do you have WAN set to 5.5 Mbps?

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                          sideout
                          last edited by

                          That is upload limt.  The Download queue in the shaper is used in the LAN rule to limt TCP streams.  This shares whatever you set in there equally with all machines wanting a TCP stream.

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                            sideout
                            last edited by

                            If you want to test it , set it 10Mbit , run a speed test.  Close all browser windows .  Set it to 5Mbit , run a speedtest again.

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                            • KOMK
                              KOM
                              last edited by

                              What I mean is, why do you have a 40 Mbps limiter when the WAN queue in the shaper is set to 5.5 Mbps?  I thought that if your WAN is set to 5.5 Mbps then your limiter would have to be less than that…?

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                                sideout
                                last edited by

                                If you look at the rule the limiter is only applied to the LAN. You are looking at the WAN bandwidth on the Traffic shaper which is what you set  from your ISP limits.

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  @Nullity:

                                  Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                                  Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    Nullity
                                    last edited by

                                    @Derelict:

                                    @Nullity:

                                    Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                                    Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                                    Yes, that along with the fact that the m1/d/m2 parameters are technically how HFSC's prioritization is configured, but I thought I would ask anyway.

                                    Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
                                    -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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                                    • KOMK
                                      KOM
                                      last edited by

                                      If you look at the rule the limiter is only applied to the LAN.

                                      OK< that's the part I was missing.  You would think I would have picked that up by the names, Download_LAN, Upload_LAN, but no…

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                                        sideout
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes I try and apply the KISS principle to any of my naming conventions . That way if I get hit by a bus , someone should be able to come in behind me and pick it easily.

                                        Glad you found it.

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                                          Harvy66
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                                          @Nullity:

                                          @Derelict:

                                          @Nullity:

                                          Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                                          Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                                          Yes, that along with the fact that the m1/d/m2 parameters are technically how HFSC's prioritization is configured, but I thought I would ask anyway.

                                          "Prioritization" is kind of a loaded word, but is the closest concept with a lot of abstract level overlap. I'm not sure the best way to say it, but I guess you could say "m1/d/m2 is how HFSC manages minimum bandwidth and maximum latency". I'm not correcting you, just thinking out loud about the best way to word it to people less familiar with HSFC's concepts.

                                          P.S. Been busy lately, need to check out your HFSC thread again.

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            The problem is this language in the GUI:

                                            For hfsc, the range is 0 to 7. The default is 1. Hfsc queues with a higher priority are preferred in the case of overload.

                                            I have no idea why that is there.

                                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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