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    HFSC Config used at 150 person LAN Party

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    • N
      Nullity
      last edited by

      If it works, it works. I am mostly theory and simulation, with very little real-world experience.

      Dealing with bulk download traffic is something I am trying to learn more about.

      Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
      -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Is there a specific reason you don't have qACK configured with any realtime?

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by

          Thanks for the post.

          Limiter is set at 40Mbit so be aware of that.

          Where is that?  I didn't see an actual limiter defined if that's what you mean.  I do see the WAN set to 5.5 Mbps, which I believe is the only thing that needs to be modified to suit the bandwidth?

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            sideout
            last edited by

            Traffic shaper  > Limiter > Download queue - set to 40Mbit

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            • S
              sideout
              last edited by

              Here it is.

              Limiter1.JPG
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              • S
                sideout
                last edited by

                @Derelict:

                Is there a specific reason you don't have qACK configured with any realtime?

                In the lan party config i have it set to realtime. This is my home / lan party config and i changed it back to just link share here.  I set it to realtime of 10 at the LAN.

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
                  last edited by

                  OK, thanks.  I thought it was something that was missing from the shaper config.xml.  If you have a 40 Mbps limiter, why do you have WAN set to 5.5 Mbps?

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                    sideout
                    last edited by

                    That is upload limt.  The Download queue in the shaper is used in the LAN rule to limt TCP streams.  This shares whatever you set in there equally with all machines wanting a TCP stream.

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                    • S
                      sideout
                      last edited by

                      If you want to test it , set it 10Mbit , run a speed test.  Close all browser windows .  Set it to 5Mbit , run a speedtest again.

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM
                        last edited by

                        What I mean is, why do you have a 40 Mbps limiter when the WAN queue in the shaper is set to 5.5 Mbps?  I thought that if your WAN is set to 5.5 Mbps then your limiter would have to be less than that…?

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                          sideout
                          last edited by

                          If you look at the rule the limiter is only applied to the LAN. You are looking at the WAN bandwidth on the Traffic shaper which is what you set  from your ISP limits.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            @Nullity:

                            Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                            Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                              Nullity
                              last edited by

                              @Derelict:

                              @Nullity:

                              Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                              Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                              Yes, that along with the fact that the m1/d/m2 parameters are technically how HFSC's prioritization is configured, but I thought I would ask anyway.

                              Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
                              -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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                              • KOMK
                                KOM
                                last edited by

                                If you look at the rule the limiter is only applied to the LAN.

                                OK< that's the part I was missing.  You would think I would have picked that up by the names, Download_LAN, Upload_LAN, but no…

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                                  sideout
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes I try and apply the KISS principle to any of my naming conventions . That way if I get hit by a bus , someone should be able to come in behind me and pick it easily.

                                  Glad you found it.

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                                    Harvy66
                                    last edited by

                                    @Nullity:

                                    @Derelict:

                                    @Nullity:

                                    Have you noticed whether HFSC "Priority" actually works or not?

                                    Doesn't the fact that the priority, if set on an HFSC queue, doesn't make it into the pf altq queue config at all pretty much settle that?

                                    Yes, that along with the fact that the m1/d/m2 parameters are technically how HFSC's prioritization is configured, but I thought I would ask anyway.

                                    "Prioritization" is kind of a loaded word, but is the closest concept with a lot of abstract level overlap. I'm not sure the best way to say it, but I guess you could say "m1/d/m2 is how HFSC manages minimum bandwidth and maximum latency". I'm not correcting you, just thinking out loud about the best way to word it to people less familiar with HSFC's concepts.

                                    P.S. Been busy lately, need to check out your HFSC thread again.

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      The problem is this language in the GUI:

                                      For hfsc, the range is 0 to 7. The default is 1. Hfsc queues with a higher priority are preferred in the case of overload.

                                      I have no idea why that is there.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      • KOMK
                                        KOM
                                        last edited by

                                        From what I have read, priority is not part of the official HFSC spec but some implementations have added it in.

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                                        • N
                                          Nullity
                                          last edited by

                                          @Harvy66:

                                          "Prioritization" is kind of a loaded word, but is the closest concept with a lot of abstract level overlap. I'm not sure the best way to say it, but I guess you could say "m1/d/m2 is how HFSC manages minimum bandwidth and maximum latency". I'm not correcting you, just thinking out loud about the best way to word it to people less familiar with HSFC's concepts.

                                          Yes, I agree, but it is pertinent as an argument againt the useless "Priority" section in the HFSC shaper GUI.

                                          Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
                                          -Not a professional; an arrogant ignoramous.

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                                          • M
                                            mcwtim
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks again for sharing your configs and info sideout.

                                            Did you have any other issues moving from 2.1.5 to 2.2?

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