PfSense wakes my Synology NAS boxes from hibernation every 1 hour….

pfcode · May 18, 2015, 11:30 PM

@pfcode:

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my NAS boxes (both setup to has static Lan IP) will be waken up every 1 hour. I must missing some of the setup settings
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NAS has a number outside the pool ?

Here is what my DHCP Server settings is:

Available range 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254
Range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.50

My NAS static mappings is 192.168.1.107

Am I doing some wrong here? is it outside the pool? Thanks.

pfcode · May 18, 2015, 11:40 PM

I sent my nas hibernation debug logs to the Synology tech support, and here is what they replied:

Based on the output you provided it appears that the router keeps trying to distribute DHCP addresses to the units, even though they already have an IP address. A simple way to test this is to try unplugging the DiskStations from the network thereby isolating them from the router. They should then stay in hibernation.

Unfortunately if the router keeps trying to hand out an IP address, there's not much that can be done from the DiskStation side. You can try setting a manual IP address, but it would be best to use one from outside of the router DHCP pool.

Here is what my DHCP Server settings is:

Available range 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254
Range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.50

My NAS static mapping/lease is 192.168.1.107

How should I do to fix it?

hda · May 18, 2015, 11:43 PM

Avoid the NAS IP taken into the lease renewal.
Your pool/range seems to be .2 to .50, so yes your .107 should be outside the pool.
Did you create .107 with the mac in "Services: DHCP server" (bottom page)?

[You should see the static in the list with "Status: DHCP leases"]

I myself reserve low numbers for static entries and have a range/pool .101 to .200

pfcode · May 18, 2015, 11:43 PM

@hda:

Avoid the NAS IP taken into the lease renewal.
Your pool/range seems to be .2 to .50, so yes your .107 should be outside the pool.
Did you create .107 with the mac in "Services: DHCP server" (bottom page)?

I myself reserve low numbers for static entries and have a range/pool .101 to .200

Yes. I create .107 with the NAS mac address under the bottom of DHCP Server/Lan, and my NAS did get that lan ip address, How to avoid the NAS IP taken into the lease renewal? all were blank by default.

hda · May 18, 2015, 11:53 PM

Suggestion recreate: manual input a new IP (say .101) on both sides: NAS-side & pfSense-side.

pfcode · May 19, 2015, 1:53 AM

No. Didn't work, re-created it, but still wake up after 1 hour, but I only created it at pfSense side. would try to enter the manual IP, rather than auto DHCP, at the NAS side

Derelict · May 19, 2015, 1:32 AM

Me? I'd put the NAS on a mirror port on my switch, let it sleep, then run a packet capture until it's woken up and see what caused it.

Why guess at the problem?

johnpoz · May 19, 2015, 1:58 PM

Agreed take a sniff and see exactly what is causing a wake up.

pfcode · May 19, 2015, 6:09 PM

@johnpoz:

Agreed take a sniff and see exactly what is causing a wake up.

As my NAS hibernation logs tells, also from Synology tech support:

It appears that the router keeps trying to distribute DHCP addresses to the units, even though they already have an IP address.

I'm not sure its the NAS problem or pfSense problem, NAS is sending DHCPREQUEST command to pfSense every 1 hour, but if the lease time isn't expired, Shouldn't pfSense NOT distribute DHCP address to the unit?

doktornotor · May 19, 2015, 6:12 PM

@pfcode:

It appears that the router keeps trying to distribute DHCP addresses to the units, even though they already have an IP address.

Yes, of course, the DHCP server keeps "distributing" IP address requested by your NAS, kindly cf.


dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST <my nas="" lan="" ip="">from <my nas="" mac="" addr="">via em1</my></my>

Also, the DHCP leases expire and need to get renewed (after a configurable period. check the GUI). So yeah, this will happen "even though they already have an IP address", perhaps the Synology support could educate themselves a bit.

Finally, if you do not want DHCP, then configure a static IP on your NAS and move on!

hda · May 19, 2015, 6:20 PM

@pfcode:

… but I only created it at pfSense side ...

Before you jump in mirroring investigation, if you know-how. I am not sure if you are exact & correct. You really should test giving the NAS a new number manually (outside the range/pool) AND manually input it in pfSense too.
This is to assure yourself the volatile memory about .107 is flushed on both sides… Maybe even reboot both hardware.

Derelict · May 19, 2015, 6:56 PM

Yes. It should not be a DHCP static mapping. That still has to periodically renew. It should be a static IP address directly configured on the NAS, outside the DHCP pool.

johnpoz · May 19, 2015, 7:46 PM

What dhcp server doesn't just out of the blue send out hey you want to renew your lease packets.. But if it gets a request then yeah it will send back something..

Tell their their Tech Support to tell you how not to send a request.. What is the lease time to start with 2 hours? Normally a dhcp client will request renewal of its lease at the 50% mark. So if you want the nas not to request, then it should be long lease. If the device is in standby/sleep why would it send out a dhcprequest is the question I would have.

Derelict · May 19, 2015, 8:05 PM

True. Should stop guessing and sniff.

doktornotor · May 19, 2015, 8:09 PM

@johnpoz:

If the device is in standby/sleep why would it send out a dhcprequest is the question I would have.

This is not really any suspend-to-disk/ram hibernation. The only thing "hibernating" are the HDDs which are spun down. Now, look at this:


# ps ax | grep dhclient
 4606 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/dhclient -4 -d -q -lf /etc/dhclient/ipv4/dhcpv4.leases.eth0 -pf /etc/dhclient/ipv4/dhcpcd-eth0.pid eth0
 5551 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/dhclient -6 -pf /tmp/dhclient6-eth0.pid -lf /etc/dhclient/ipv6/dhcpv6.lease.eth0 -cf /etc/dhclient/ipv6/dhcpv6.conf.eth0 -nw eth0

Those dhcpv[46].lease.eth? files have stuff like this:


lease {
  interface "eth0";
  fixed-address 192.168.1.10;
  option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
  option routers 192.168.1.1;
  option dhcp-lease-time 7200;
  option dhcp-message-type 5;
  option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
  option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.1;
  option host-name "DiskStation";
  option domain-name "example.com";
  renew 2 2015/05/19 19:46:58;
  rebind 2 2015/05/19 20:35:47;
  expire 2 2015/05/19 20:50:47;
}

This is just stupid. There's /tmp which is on tmpfs (ramdisk). Now, the lease file is on /etc instead, which is a HDD. Of course, when the lease is renewed, the HDD needs to spin up to write to the file.

Tell Synology to move their temporary dhcpv[46].lease.eth? shit to /tmp when people enable "hibernation" – and it won't wake up HDDs from hibernation. ::)

johnpoz · May 19, 2015, 8:16 PM

the hdd are just spun down - ah yeah wouldn't call that sleep anything ;)

If that lease file is from actual nas then looks to be only 2 hour lease.. That is not the default lease time in pfsense dhcp server is it? Thought it was like 24, yup quick look on dhcp server tab "The default is 86400 seconds." So the nas is only requesting 2 hours by default?

doktornotor · May 19, 2015, 8:19 PM

@johnpoz:

If that lease file is from actual nas then looks to be only 2 hour lease.. That is not the default lease time in pfsense dhcp server is it? Thought it was like 24, yup quick look on dhcp server tab "The default is 86400 seconds." So the nas is only requesting 2 hours by default?

The default lease time is 7200 seconds on pfSense; the default maximum lease time is 86400 secs (one day).

johnpoz · May 19, 2015, 8:32 PM

you are correct as always dok

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:23:15 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 19, 2015 5:23:15 PM

doh – helps if you actually read what your doing a copy of. quick enough fix ;)

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:23:15 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 20, 2015 3:28:28 PM

Now its 24 hours..

Derelict · May 19, 2015, 9:01 PM

I might have read something somewhere about clients requesting renewal halfway through their lease.

pfcode · May 19, 2015, 9:35 PM

Thanks All, by assigning a manual IP in the NAS network configuration, solved the issue, It was 'get network configuration automatically (DHCP)' before. I will let the Synology tech guys to investigate further to why it is sending dhcprequest every 1 hour (3600 seconds) to the router.