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    Unstable internet since 2.2.4

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      xman111
      last edited by

      anything guys?

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        firewalluser
        last edited by

        Have you searched for some of the stuff in your logs?

        What did you find?

        Capitalism, currently The World's best Entertainment Control System and YOU cant buy it! But you can buy this, or some of this or some of these

        Asch Conformity, mainly the blind leading the blind.

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          KOM
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          Apinger is still borked and you might want to disable gateway monitoring (System - Routing - (Edit your gateway) - Disable Gateway Monitoring) if apinger is causing you pain.

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            xman111
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            thanks guys, very grateful.

            I thought that apinger was supposed to be fixed in 2.2, I guess not, thanks KOM.  I did a bunch of pinging and from the command prompt and there seems to be almost no packet loss, I think 3 out of 3000.

            i tried reinstalling and it is still up and down and flakey.  I have changed network cables as well.  I am about to try to install it all on another machine but it will be quite a bit of work and mess with my home computer, do you guys think it is a hardware thing?

            I have also resorted to no VPN, just the basic Wan and Lan to try to simplify a little more to figure things out.

            I have a wireless access point connected to the PFsense and when i wirelesly connect to the network, it doesn't seem to have as many errors.

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              doktornotor Banned
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              As noted above - with apinger, you have no idea whether what it shows and detects are real issues or yet another inexplicable bug causing apinger to invent completely BS figures (such as the 109% packet loss I regularly see here) and result in up/down/up/down cycle for absolutely no valid reason. Disable the monitoring and see for yourself.

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                xman111
                last edited by

                I think apinger was taking down my VPN as well when it thought something was going wrong.

                So I should disable apinger, clear all logs and see what errors gets logged?  or just disable and do some pinging and other types of testing?

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                  doktornotor Banned
                  last edited by

                  Well, clearing the above noise from logs certainly won't harm anything.

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                    firewalluser
                    last edited by

                    Might also be useful.
                    https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/3969

                    Perhaps a useful test can be got from here.
                    http://kb.paessler.com/en/topic/17133-what-does-could-not-bind-socket-address-and-port-are-already-in-use-mean

                    Capitalism, currently The World's best Entertainment Control System and YOU cant buy it! But you can buy this, or some of this or some of these

                    Asch Conformity, mainly the blind leading the blind.

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                      xman111
                      last edited by

                      thanks for the links!

                      really looking forward to testing tonight, I am off tomorrow so I have tonight to play.

                      Do you guys think i should completely change hardware or work with the system/software i have right now?

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                        doktornotor Banned
                        last edited by

                        I don't think changing HW will get you anywhere, frankly.

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                          xman111
                          last edited by

                          thanks,  you saved me a bunch of time and potentially money.  I will try to iron out issues with what I have.  will post back,  thanks for taking your time to help me.

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                            xman111
                            last edited by

                            after I disable the gateway monitoring, what would be the best way to determine if i have a problem at all?

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                              heper
                              last edited by

                              you could run a batch file on one of your clients and let it run for a while.

                              something like this:

                              
                              @echo off
                              
                              :START
                              
                              ping -n 4 4.2.2.2 >nul
                              
                              if %errorlevel% == 1 (
                                echo Internet offline >> C:\Internet.txt
                                Time /t >> C:\Internet.txt
                              )
                              
                              Timeout /t 30
                              @set errorlevel = 0
                              
                              GOTO START
                              
                              
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                                xman111
                                last edited by

                                awesome thanks Heper.. at least that gives me a start..  I was starting to think it might be an Intel network card that I have, probably isn't..

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                                  xman111
                                  last edited by

                                  hey guys, stopping apinger seems to have helped with the errors and internet dropping, thanks for that.

                                  I am now having problems with very high pings and slow internet.  sometimes the ping to 8.8.8.8 is 20ms, sometimes it is 800ms.  whenever I ping AirVPN, it is a 2-400ms.    I have been using DNS from UNblock, where is the setting to get the DNS from my ISP automatically?  i couldn't find them under WAN settings.

                                  Any other hints to figure out what is going on with ping swings and generally high pings?  I cannot even use VPN it is so slow now, never had a problem before.

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                                    NOYB
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                                    Is DNS Forwarder or DNS Resolver enabled (which one)?

                                    DNS Forwarder uses the DNS Servers specified in the System: General Setup.
                                    DNS Resolver uses the DNS root servers.

                                    Client DNS server assignment can be overridden in Services: DHCP server.

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                                      xman111
                                      last edited by

                                      i have DNS forwarder enabled and just LAN and Localhost selected as this is how my VPN is supposed to be setup when i get it working.

                                      I plugged my cable modem directly into my laptop and everything is fast.  I then rebooted and connected PFsense again and it seems better.  I think i am starting to get how DNS is assigned, thanks NOYB.  Does DNS determine my Pings?

                                      I can switch between my ISP dns and Unblock's dns and they both seem fairly fast pinging most websites.  When i ping some of the AIRVPN servers though, I am still getting the high hundreds though, not sure what that is about.  If I can't get good pings to them, i won't be able to get the VPN up and working.

                                      Any way to figure out where it is going off the rail?

                                      I was able to go to pingtest.net and get an A grade on my connection.  The only problem now i guess are the very high pings to the servers at AirVPN.

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                                        NOYB
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                                        DNS should have nothing to do with ping times (assuming name resolves to same IP address).  Once name is resolved to an IP address DNS is out of the picture.

                                        To see where the slowness may be try a trace route (tracert on a Windows client).

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                                          xman111
                                          last edited by

                                          does this mean anything?  the request timed out on step 2.  it seemed fast until step 7.

                                          1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [192.168.1.1]
                                            2    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                                            3    9 ms    9 ms    9 ms  rd3st-tge0-13-0-10-1.vc.shawcable.net [64.59.150.85]
                                            4    16 ms    10 ms    14 ms  66.163.72.254
                                            5    14 ms    15 ms    16 ms  rc5wt-be5.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.74.158]
                                            6    15 ms    15 ms    13 ms  xe-9-1-0.sea22.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.71.73]
                                            7  160 ms  161 ms  161 ms  xe-1-3-0.fra29.ip4.gtt.net [141.136.108.17]
                                            8  167 ms  170 ms  168 ms  a100-gw.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.66.206]
                                            9  168 ms  171 ms  168 ms  54.239.5.110
                                          10  167 ms  169 ms  167 ms  54.239.5.134
                                          11  168 ms  173 ms  172 ms  ec2-54-93-175-114.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com [54.93.175.114]

                                          and one to google

                                          Tracing route to google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8]
                                          over a maximum of 30 hops:

                                          1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [192.168.1.1]
                                            2    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                                            3    12 ms    9 ms    10 ms  rd3st-tge0-13-0-10-1.vc.shawcable.net [64.59.150.85]
                                            4    18 ms    17 ms    16 ms  66.163.70.106
                                            5    18 ms    15 ms    16 ms  rx0wt-google.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.68.50]
                                            6    14 ms    15 ms    17 ms  74.125.37.95
                                            7    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  209.85.250.121
                                            8    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8]

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                                            NOYB
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                                            No the hop #2 time out is not significant.  Just means that router does not respond to pings.
                                            Don't see any of the 400 to 800 ms pings you mentioned in the opening post.

                                            That doesn't look too bad really.  Here's what it looks like from here for comparison.

                                            
                                            Tracing route to ec2-54-93-175-114.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com [54.93.175.114]
                                            over a maximum of 30 hops:
                                            
                                              1     1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [192.168.2.1]
                                              2     6 ms     5 ms     6 ms  static-50-53-160-1.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.160.1]
                                              3     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  50.38.7.201
                                              4    19 ms    37 ms    30 ms  ae2---0.cor02.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.181]
                                              5    20 ms    22 ms    20 ms  ae3---0.cor01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.225]
                                              6    21 ms    48 ms    22 ms  ae0---0.cbr01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.150]
                                              7    21 ms    22 ms    19 ms  xe-0.paix.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [198.32.176.14]
                                              8   231 ms   232 ms   232 ms  ae-15.r01.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.33]
                                              9    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  ae-1.r22.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.26]
                                             10    88 ms    88 ms   112 ms  ae-8.r21.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.16]
                                             11   132 ms   142 ms   140 ms  ae-0.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.97]
                                             12    89 ms    95 ms    88 ms  ae-5.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.167]
                                             13   231 ms   232 ms   235 ms  ae-6.r21.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.181]
                                             14     *      229 ms   222 ms  ae-1.r02.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.163]
                                             15   169 ms   174 ms   177 ms  212.119.27.174
                                             16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
                                             17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
                                             18   170 ms   170 ms   175 ms  54.239.5.134
                                             19   169 ms   169 ms   169 ms  ec2-54-93-175-114.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com [54.93.175.114]
                                            
                                            Trace complete.
                                            
                                            
                                            
                                            Tracing route to google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8]
                                            over a maximum of 30 hops:
                                            
                                              1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [192.168.2.1]
                                              2     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  static-50-53-160-1.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.160.1]
                                              3     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  50.38.7.201
                                              4    12 ms    10 ms    12 ms  ae2---0.cor02.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.181]
                                              5     9 ms    10 ms    10 ms  ae0---0.cor01.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.185]
                                              6    10 ms    12 ms    10 ms  ae4---0.cor01.sttl.wa.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.221]
                                              7    20 ms    18 ms    15 ms  ae0---0.cbr01.sttl.wa.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.122]
                                              8    10 ms    12 ms    11 ms  74.40.26.131
                                              9    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  72.14.238.181
                                             10    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  209.85.245.67
                                             11    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8]
                                            
                                            Trace complete.
                                            
                                            
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