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      nikkon
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      i know…but it seems that is not so importan...as far as i read on google.will this help in my case?

      update: yes...it does make sense...thanks for the warning! :)

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        nikkon
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        then i only have this option: A1SAi-2758F

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          Guest
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          • supermicro A1SAi-2750F

          This is a board from the Avoton series with TurboBoost and thats better for running a server
          likes apache or samba or any other server.

          The Intel Atom C2xx8 series is the Rangeley platform and does not have TurboBoost, but AES-NI
          and QuickAssist that would be perhaps more important in the future and is also more tended to
          building security appliances likes pfSense.

          then i only have this option: A1SAi-2758F

          Cool thing as I see it right and balanced out for power serving and power saving.

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            nikkon
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            A1SAi-2758F + sc101i case must be the choice.
            The only concern is now if i can add an extra network adaptor on pci-e.

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              heper
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              A1SRi-2758F has 4x gbit interface. you need more ?

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                nikkon
                last edited by

                Ideally 2 more for a nas lagg  :P

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                  Guest
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                  A1SAi-2758F + sc101i case must be the choice.

                  I personally was also thinking exactly at first likes you!
                  You have 4 common, mainly or mostly used case free to choose from for that board.
                  1U Rackmount

                  • 1U SC505-203 with Front I/O (Ports)
                  • 1U SC504-203 with Rear I/O Ports
                    Mini-ITX
                  • Mini-ITX SC101i with Front Ports
                  • SC721TQ-250B Mini-ITX Tower (But with 1 PCIe Slot outbreak)
                  • The M350 Mini-ITX also without an PCIe Slot outbreak

                  The only concern is now if i can add an extra network adaptor on pci-e.

                  This might be not really able with the mini ITX form factor for the case.
                  But if you perhaps swap over to a 1U chassis or case, there are more way to help you out.
                  I don´t know from where you are nikkon and what are the price for this hardware will be
                  that you have to pay for it but Supermicro offers also other boards in other form factors.
                  So let us imagine you would tend to a 1U form factor then you could go with this one.
                  A1SRM-LN7F-2758
                  C2758
                  8 Cores

                  • 1 Intel IPMI LAN Port
                  • 7 Intel GB LAN Ports
                    AES-NI & QuickAssist
                    8 GB LAN Ports direct on the mainboard no other cards are needed
                    mSATA Slot (half high) direct on the mainboard no expensive SSD is needed
                    Normal DDR3 RAM modules can be used and not the more expensive SO-DIMMs

                  If you need more GB LAN ports or perhaps different Ports for your appliance you
                  might be happy with this appliances from Axiomtek, they will be not cheap but comes
                  with some interesting features on top and also more Ports as usual.
                  Axiomtek NA361 C2358 Dual Core
                  Axiomtek NA361R C2558 Quad Core or C2758 8 Core
                  In the middle of the NA361R are a module bay to insert modules for the NA361R.
                  - VPN Modul
                  - 4 SFP+
                  - 4 RJ45 PoE
                  - 8 RJ45
                  - 8 SFP

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                    nikkon
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                    i deviced to get supermicro case SC101i and another ethernet adaptor for wan only:  INTEL Gigabit CT or http://www.supermicro.nl/products/accessories/addon/AOC-CGP-i2.cfm
                    hope to be enought space in the case for it.
                    any other ideas? pci-express 8x ?

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                      Guest
                      last edited by

                      or http://www.supermicro.nl/products/accessories/addon/AOC-CGP-i2.cfm

                      Is this then for the PCIe Slot on the A1SRi-2758F? Is this compatible together?

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                        nikkon
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                        I belive they are. Still need to confirm with super micro dealer.

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                          Keljian
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                          Why don't you get a secondhand pair of Chelsio 310s or Mellanox connectx-2 cards and whack one in the pfsense box?

                          Or just get a Chelsio t420 for pfsense ($75-80USD on eBay) and Mellanox (Connectx-2 - $19USD) for your server.

                          10gig is much easier than lagg.

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                            nikkon
                            last edited by

                            I have 2 concerns here :
                            -how's gonna sell this in romania

                            • if will feat in the case

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                              Keljian
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                              @nikkon:

                              I have 2 concerns here :
                              -how's gonna sell this in romania

                              • if will feat in the case
                              • EBay sellers will ship to Romania.
                              • With a low profile bracket, and some dremelling, you'll get a chelsio t420 in that case, it's a very small card. (100mm. x 69mm), you won't find much smaller that isn't specific (like the card mentioned above). The 4xPci-e slot will be able to keep up with the two 10gbe ports.
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                                NegativeEntropy
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                                @nikkon:

                                …
                                Got this task to choose a box for a fast wan connection (1000 Mbps fiber).
                                ...
                                Forgot to tell you : wan will be over PPPoE
                                ...

                                Careful with Rangely and this set of conditions. According to here: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=100900.0

                                PPOE connections are currently limited to a single core for some of the related CPU load. On the Rangely SoC, this then limits throughput to less than 1 Gigabit. According to the link and the linke thread(s), you'd need a faster CPU (i.e. more single core performance) to be able to use the full Gigabit.

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                                  Guest
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                                  @NegativeEntropy:

                                  @nikkon:

                                  …
                                  Got this task to choose a box for a fast wan connection (1000 Mbps fiber).
                                  ...
                                  Forgot to tell you : wan will be over PPPoE
                                  ...

                                  Careful with Rangely and this set of conditions. According to here: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=100900.0

                                  PPOE connections are currently limited to a single core for some of the related CPU load. On the Rangely SoC, this then limits throughput to less than 1 Gigabit. According to the link and the linke thread(s), you'd need a faster CPU (i.e. more single core performance) to be able to use the full Gigabit.

                                  If he gets a real or pure fiber modem (not a router) he could set up the data inside if the modem and then he
                                  gets a better or a faster throughput. So this problem can be pushed away or solved out, for sure not in all cases
                                  but many where the ISP is using for that pure modems or the router is able to be setup in the so called "bridged mode".

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                                    Jailer
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                                    @nikkon:

                                    Ideally 2 more for a nas lagg  :P

                                    http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/X10/A1SRM-LN7F-2758.cfm

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                                      nikkon
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                                      anyone has any clue how many pps can handle this kinda of setup? the one i asked for (c2758 based)
                                      I was just reading some reviews for Vyos and miktorik and they look impresive.

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                                        Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        I was just reading some reviews for Vyos and miktorik

                                        Ok for sure this might be a total other thing to go with different OS!
                                        If this both named OS are doing the usage of multicore instead of the single Core usage
                                        by going  to use pppoe, this would be really able to see  an impressive goal or number of pps.

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                                          nikkon
                                          last edited by

                                          I know Pfsense uses only 1 core for PPPoE…. For now I hope.
                                          Waiting for a testfix in the near future.

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                                            zax123
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                                            I'm in the same boat.

                                            I need a rig that can run 1gigabit fiber without choking.  I currently have an AMD G-T40E and it tops out at about 350mbps.

                                            Pricing out the Supermicro with memory and a case and an SSD comes to something like $500 US.  Am I the only one who thinks that's a lot of money for a router?

                                            Is there no cheaper way to do it and still take advantage of 1gigabit WAN?

                                            I also run 3 IPSEC VPN tunnels…

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