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    MultiWAN it's slower instead of faster

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Routing and Multi WAN
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    • dotdashD
      dotdash
      last edited by

      I just did a test on speedtest.net and it gave me higher numbers than the total of my lines combined.
      I stand corrected in that it now uses multiple lines, but it doesn't seem to be very accurate.

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        ubit
        last edited by

        @dotdash:

        I just did a test on speedtest.net and it gave me higher numbers than the total of my lines combined.
        I stand corrected in that it now uses multiple lines, but it doesn't seem to be very accurate.

        well, watch this!

        you can see 20.83 Download speed… but check the WANs

        multiwan.jpg
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          tim.mcmanus
          last edited by

          I'm not sure if that version had the graphing bug, which is what you are seeing. One graph would report a speed and the other graph would report 2x the speed. It should be a consistent 2x.

          That graphing bug was subsequently fixed.

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            ubit
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            @BlueKobold:

            each wan has an 10mbps adsl but when i put it together it gives me 6mbps on my speedtest

            The 10 MBit/s are of a theoretical nature! And if combine the both WAN line you will not be able to
            get something like 20 MBit/s!!!!!! You will be able to get 10 MBit/s + 10 MBit/s and then, now I mean
            you must be setting up a loadbalancing method in my eyes that is then delivering you bot, fail over
            and load balancing, without one line is even in spare mode and not use, like a real fail over line!

            so if anybody can guide me to make my pfs 2.2.4 it would be great.

            Now you have to decide what you want to use for a load balancing method.

            • policy based routing
            • session based routing
            • service based routing

            I consider and suggest to the policy based routing method in you case here.
            If one WAN is failing, the entire rest of traffic is going through the other WAN
            interface that is up. And if both are running up and fine the entire load will be
            balanced over two WAN lines.

            Ok… 88 day after made this post i found the solution, so i post it here. the was a problem with one of the lines. as soon as my ISP repaired it i got my 20mb back...

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              akifnaeem
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              hi ubit,

              Hope you and ur pfsense fine… :)

              i m newbie to Pfsense word. my network topology consist of 1LAN and 2WAN, i am having same issue of slow speed and some times even no traffic pass through WAN2, please guide me about rules for both WAN1 and WAN2, also confirm are able to balance load, with existing configuration,(as of attached PIcs...)also can you please give me favour to ping me on my email if you can spare some time for me....akifnaeem21@yahoo.com..

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                ubit
                last edited by

                @akifnaeem:

                hi ubit,

                Hope you and ur pfsense fine… :)

                i m newbie to Pfsense word. my network topology consist of 1LAN and 2WAN, i am having same issue of slow speed and some times even no traffic pass through WAN2, please guide me about rules for both WAN1 and WAN2, also confirm are able to balance load, with existing configuration,(as of attached PIcs...)also can you please give me favour to ping me on my email if you can spare some time for me....akifnaeem21@yahoo.com..

                hi, i would love to help you…
                can you tell me this:
                both wans are from the same ISP?
                if you test both wans separately whats each bandwidht??

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                  akifnaeem
                  last edited by

                  hi ubit,

                  sorry for late was busy in exams,

                  yes my both WAN link are from same ISP, and link bandwidth is 4Mbps, that why i want to sum up both to get at least 8mbps,

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                    ubit
                    last edited by

                    @akifnaeem:

                    hi ubit,

                    sorry for late was busy in exams,

                    yes my both WAN link are from same ISP, and link bandwidth is 4Mbps, that why i want to sum up both to get at least 8mbps,

                    can you send me the configuration you made on pfsense to work with multiwan, pls.

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                      akifnaeem
                      last edited by

                      Please check attached pictures of my experiments….

                      wan2.png
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                      wan1.png
                      main.png
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                      wan2.png_thumb
                      gatways.png
                      gatways.png_thumb
                      gatwaygroups.png
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                        Guest
                        last edited by

                        yes my both WAN link are from same ISP, and link bandwidth is 4Mbps, that why i want to sum up both to get at least 8mbps,

                        Once more again, this is not able to realize! You are making a thinking false.
                        4 MB/s + 4 MB/s = 4 MB/s + 4 MB/s and not 8 MB/s

                        This can be only done with MLPPP (MPLS) and the ISP must offer this as a service also, because this
                        is a both ends construct.

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                          ubit
                          last edited by

                          @akifnaeem:

                          Please check attached pictures of my experiments….

                          i see. do you change your gateway on the rules?
                          can we do a TeamViewer sesion?

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                            Guest
                            last edited by

                            Please check attached pictures of my experiments….

                            For load balancing and fail over rules you could watch here in this thread the example that
                            will be shown there. That will do it for all also as I see it right.
                            multi-wan [dual] and policy based routing with failover

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                              akifnaeem
                              last edited by

                              @ubit,

                              thanks a lot buddy… by your help im able to get double...8mBs...

                              here you can see speedshot

                              8mb.png
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                                ubit
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                                @akifnaeem:

                                @ubit,

                                thanks a lot buddy… by your help im able to get double...8mBs...

                                here you can see speedshot

                                it's great it work you done here! and all I did was see the conditions and make observations but at the end it's you who really pull it to work, congratullations!

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  you do understand speedtest uses multiple streams…

                                  As stated already 4 + 4 = 4 + 4 not 8..

                                  If you balance the load across both wan then you could get a combined total of 8... But 1 machine downloading via 1 stream is not going to get 8, the max it could see is 4...

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                                    ubit
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                                    @johnpoz:

                                    you do understand speedtest uses multiple streams…

                                    As stated already 4 + 4 = 4 + 4 not 8..

                                    If you balance the load across both wan then you could get a combined total of 8... But 1 machine downloading via 1 stream is not going to get 8, the max it could see is 4...

                                    that it's correct johnpoz. each line is 4mb and combined are 8mb. each stream could give us 4mb max. the pfsense box combine the lines and if we used the pfsense box as our gateway we will have 8mb bandhwidth that allow multiple download sessions as torrents apps or websites as youtube. but not in apps as dropbox or websites as megavideos.

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                                      Kababayan
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                                      Some sites does not allow changinbg IP, you tube for example loads slower or will not load the video if your ip has diff coubtry(using VPN) and slower if different ip same country. some sites will not allow changing ip at all.

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                                      • chpalmerC
                                        chpalmer
                                        last edited by

                                        Have you asked your ISP if they support or would consider supporting MLPPP?

                                        With pfSense MLPPP works very well and is very easy to set up. Sometimes a little education to an ISP is all it takes.

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                                          roccor
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                                          I feel the need to chime in here because I had the exact same situation that persisted for the past year. I have 3 3mb DSL lines to my house (ATT Business), and prior to my hardware upgrade Speedtest would show upwards of 9-10mb on the downstream and 512kb up.  Since my hardware change I barely get above 3.5mb and usually 256k up.

                                          Maybe you guys are right and we are moronic and totally wrong but all we can say is what we experienced.  My routinggroup was set just like the OP's to all T1 and packet loss or latency as a trigger. With 8+ devices, a kid streaming youtube, myself Netflix on the Roku the onyl time I ever had buffering was while torrenting (which is a bad thing you should never do). Now? I get buffering if I cough loud enough. Traffic graph peggeds out at between 3 and 3.6mb/s.

                                          I have a separate thread about my issues that is being ignored because my original box appears to have gone tits up.  But the OP for this thread is not crazy because my old 2.2-release worked like that.

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