Looking for a nice switch!
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. One of the members of the forum pointed out that I should be getting a Layer 3 Switch as I will do VLAN (Not sure if Layer 2+ will do it, though). I have checked Zyxel products (L3 4500 series) but they seems quite expensive :(
You don't need a Layer 3 switch for VLANs - only if you want the switch to route traffic between VLANs autonomously, without involving pfSense or any other router.
ZyXEL GS1920 is perfectly capable of running VLANs. This post comes to you via a GS1920-48HP with a configuration involving seven VLANs (with various combinations of tagged and untagged ports), link aggregation, spanning tree, IGMP snooping, MLD snooping (the IPv6 equivalent of IGMP snooping) and various other advanced features. The Power over Ethernet support in the HP versions is very well implemented, though the power budget is not as high as more expensive switches. 375W (the limit on the GS1920-48HP) is enough for me.
GS1920-24 is a very capable switch for around €150. I posted a link to the 4.30 user guide so that you could see the feature set. If you get a switch with older 4.10 firmware, it's a five minute job to download and upgrade the firmware.
If you really want Layer 3 and/or 10Gbit support, you're either going to be hunting for second hand switches that could well have very loud fans and be very power hungry, or you're going to blow your budget by a considerable margin.
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There's an ongoing discussion on whether there is any benefits or issues in using pfSense or a Layer 3 switch to route between VLANs at /index.php?topic=104987.0.
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. One of the members of the forum pointed out that I should be getting a Layer 3 Switch as I will do VLAN (Not sure if Layer 2+ will do it, though). I have checked Zyxel products (L3 4500 series) but they seems quite expensive :(
You don't need a Level 3 switch for VLANs - only if you want the switch to route traffic between VLANs autonomously, without involving pfSense or any other router.
ZyXEL GS1920 is perfectly capable of running VLANs. This post comes to you via a GS1920-48HP with a configuration involving seven VLANs (with various combinations of tagged and untagged ports), link aggregation, spanning tree, IGMP snooping, MLD snooping (the IPv6 equivalent of IGMP snooping) and various other advanced features. The Power over Ethernet support in the HP versions is very well implemented, though the power budget is not as high as more expensive switches. 375W (the limit on the GS1920-48HP) is enough for me.
GS1920-24 is a very capable switch for around €150. I posted a link to the 4.30 user guide so that you could see the feature set. If you get a switch with older 4.10 firmware, it's a five minute job to download and upgrade the firmware.
If you really want Level 3 and/or 10Gbit support, you're either going to be hunting for second hand switches that could well have very loud fans and be very power hungry, or you're going to blow your budget by a considerable margin.
Yep, I more or less understand that part! I currently have an 8 port with 2 VLANs. The thing is I wanted to avoid pfsense to do that job as there might be significant traffic between them!
There's an ongoing discussion on whether there is any benefits or issues in using pfSense or a Layer 3 switch to route between VLANs at /index.php?topic=104987.0.
Thanks, will take a look at it!
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The thing is I wanted to avoid pfsense to do that job as there might be significant traffic between them!
It's worth thinking whether you can design your network in a way that avoids as much VLAN to VLAN traffic as possible. Connecting servers to every VLAN they need to serve (with appropriate firewall rules and ACLs on the services) might be sufficient for your purposes and would avoid the complexity of introducing L3 switching.
Layer 3 switches tend to be rather expensive. You would need to investigate any second hand L3 switches carefully, especially about power usage, fan noise, whether they have IPv6 support and the costs of software licensing and updates.
If you really need a L3 switch, it might be cheaper to go for a a small L3 switch with at least one 10Gbit port, linked to a 10Gbit port on a larger L2 switch (a couple of 10Gbit ports on that switch would suffice). It's difficult to envisage any home network needing more than 10Gbit/s of L3 switching bandwidth.
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Hello,
I'm in the process of searching for a new switch. Currently I have an 8 port Netgear one (Smart Managed). However, I'm planning to expand the network and get a bit more of control over it. The switch I'm looking for should have the following characteristics:
- 19'' Rack mountable
- Between 20-24 RJ45 ports
- L2 managed is enough for me (home/small office environment)
- All ports RJ45 1000mbps
- VLAN support
- Nice to have 2 or 4 10gbe for the future (if it makes sense). For my ballpark, to get this it will be probably have to be used
I don't mind if it's used (but not too old) as long as I find it on eBay or similar. My ballpark is around 260€ (290$)
For new ones, I've checked:
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TP-Link T2600G-28TS http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-39_T2600G-28TS-(TL-SG3424).html
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Cisco SG220-26 http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SG220-26-SG220-26-K9-NA-Managed-Gigabit/dp/B00L0XNVAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452194398&sr=8-1&keywords=SG220-26
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Netgear JGS524Ev2 http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-JGS524E-Rackmount-JGS524Ev2/dp/B00GG1AD9A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452194767&sr=8-1&keywords=JGS524Ev2
Is there any other good brands on Switches I should take a look at? Any good used model I should search for?
Here are some good options:
Cisco SG300-28 - $295.05 -
http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SG300-28-Ethernet-Switch-SRW2024-K9-NA/dp/B007I5AE8S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452296937&sr=8-1&keywords=Cisco+SG300-28Cisco SG 300-20 - $274.93
http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-SG-300-20-SRW2016-K9-NA-20-Port/dp/B0041ORN9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452297203&sr=8-1&keywords=Cisco+SG300-20 -
I use a dozen of similar TP-Links, they are fast, reliable, and low-power consuming.
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http://routerboard.com/CRS226-24G-2SplusIN
this mikrotik one is good, and had two 10gb uplinks for future use
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http://routerboard.com/CRS226-24G-2SplusIN
this mikrotik one is good, and had two 10gb uplinks for future use
Woha! How is this one so cheap?! Are these reliable? Thanks!
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I have used a lot of the Mikrotik Products at work they are awesome products and are very reliable. The routers are very nice for the money. They have one that is a 72 core processor and will route over 100 Million packets per second. For switches also have a look at Ubiquiti products their Edgeswitch line are awesome products as well and very reliable. They are based on the Broadcom fast path chipset which HP and Dell use as the base for some of their switches. The company I work for uses all Mikrotik for routing and Ubiquiti Edgeswitch for switches. We started with the Cisco SG300/SG500 switches but could get just as good of a switch for almost half the cost using Ubiquiti. For example for a 24 port POE switch with a 250W power supply you are looking at $399. The non POE version is $199 retail. That Mikrotik CRS switch you linked to can also be a router.
https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/
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Just as I anticipated when I began to read this thread, not a single mention of HP gear! Although I loathe their consumer-grade stuff, the Procurve gear is quite good. Their documentation and configuration/management interface beat Cisco by a mile. I guess Cisco has such market domination that those who were raised on it tend to think HP stuff is weird. But that can be a major advantage to you when it comes to finding used equipment at a great price. Keep an open mind.
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Woha! How is this one {mikrotik} so cheap?!
There is no free lunch. You get what you pay for.
I have used a lot of the Mikrotik Products
Where are you from? In Europe they aren't particularly known as switch manufacturer. Just one of the zillion prosumer brands.
Keep an open mind.
As always!
HP not being on this list just means there's nobody in this forum using them (or dare to write about it).
I've used (in alphabetical order…)
-3Com
-Accton
-Allied Telesys
-Cisco
-Edge-corE
-Extreme Networks
-HP
-KTI/Katron
-LevelOne
-Linksys
-Longshine
-(Netgear)
-SMC
-TrendNet
switches in the past. I would assume I'm quite open minded. But does this list tell you something?
Once you use a CLI more often, you start build a preference with one brand and stick to that.I had a two day training on Edge-corE switches, which by itself was great. But it doesn't mean that I still use their gear.
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I use the Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch 24 Lite at home, it's fanless but the SFP's only support 1gbit
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enjoying the topic ..
someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports 10GbE?thanks
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someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports 10GbE?
The smallest switch with 10Gb ports I currently know is from D-Link DGS-1510-20
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enjoying the topic ..
someone knows a switch 8ports 1GbE + 2ports 10GbE?thanks
Netgear XS708E
8 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s + 1 SFP+
Netgear XS712T
12 x 100/1000/10000 MBit/s + 2 SFP+So you get GBit/s, GbE and SFP+ Ports as you want it.
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One thing worth considering is the web configuration page of device. I am a big fan of the older Linksys-Cisco SG300 seriers but the fact that it requires Internet Explorer is a serious drawback. I have to keep an XP box just to administer them.
Any reports on the D-Link DGS-1510 devices browser requirments? I like the specs on that device. Almost too good for the money!
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Any reports on the D-Link DGS-1510 devices browser requirments? I like the specs on that device. Almost too good for the money!
IE, Opera and Seamonkey are running well to administer the switch without no problems!
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"Cisco SG300 seriers but the fact that it requires Internet Explorer is a serious"
Huh?? I have a sg300-10, and can just use the cli to admin them.. But sure if you want to use a gui, I use firefox 43.0.4 just fine with them - haven't used IE in quite some time on anything. But I do have a old netgear gs108t that firefox is buggy with, and have to use IE for that.
But the sg300 I have used firefox, chrome without any issues - but I don't know of anything you can not just do through the cli via ssh or telnet even. And they even come with a console port you could use..
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I'd tell you a joke about UDP, but I'm not sure you'd get it.
I got it (good joke BTW) but I can't even let you know, convinced your SPI FW will drop my ACK :P
;D ;D ;D
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I was speaking about the Linksys SRW line which Cisco bought. It would only work with Internet Explorer. It became the SG300 Line.
