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      nikkon
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      I have the same setup u are looking for.
      works just great.

      Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

      pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

      Happy PfSense user :)

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        Guest
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        Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

        What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

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          sudonim
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          Hi louf,

          Not sure if you came across my post: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=104282.msg587496

          From my research and experiments, you need an older system that uses an "em" driver card not an "igb" card. https://kdemaria.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/how-to-configure-pfsense-2-2-2-for-centurylink-gigabit-seattle-edition/#comment-300

          You might have bad luck with PPPoE and gigabit with an igb card because of this issue: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/4821

          I recently bought and tested a SG-2440 from Pfsense in addition to self-built machine and had the same issue. The SG-2440 is going to the office where there is no PPPoE so no worries there.

          I posted a bounty for $500 to fix the underlying issue - https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=108280.msg603145#msg603145

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            Guest
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            You might have bad luck with PPPoE and gigabit with an igb card because of this issue: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/4821

            PPPoE is only using one CPU cpre at the WAN interface actual, and I think personally it is more
            pointed to that circumstance that some CPUs would not be strong enough to route 1 GBit/s at
            the WAN interface. Prerhaps it might be also driver related, but this problems was set to low
            and it would reinspected if FreeBSD version 11 is on the its way or some times before.

            I recently bought and tested a SG-2440 from Pfsense in addition to self-built machine and had the same issue. The SG-2440 is going to the office where there is no PPPoE so no worries there.

            So if the SG-2440 is used then in the office, and there will be the same igb(4) driver in the game and
            you are reporting there will be then no problems anymore, the driver is in my opinion not really so hard
            involved as you were thinking. Could this be?

            I posted a bounty for $500 to fix the underlying issue - https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=108280.msg603145#msg603145

            This is not really necessary as I see it, because there was told something about a patch that is available
            so why you would spend some coins on this then? There is a patch suggested there.

            Translation:
            –---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            assigned to Jim Thompson
            priority was changed from Normal to Low
            as target was changed from version 2.3 to future
            Fixing this likely requires an in-kernel RSS (Toeplitz) implementation. Such a thing is coming for
            FreeBSD (Adrian is working on it for the upper layers of the stack), but it's going to be a while
            before it's ready to interface to netisr.

            Priority dropped to "low". Will review when we're based on 11.

            So I really think it is better to change the single CPU core usage on the PPPoE part more than patching
            the driver igb(4) or recode it. Perhaps with the next version of pfSense the version 2.3 and netmap-fwd
            you will be able to route a full GBit/s at the WAN port, so please rethink or think over about the made
            bounty you opened.

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              nikkon
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              @BlueKobold:

              Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

              What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

              Intel Gigabit CT EXPI9301CTBLK

              pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

              Happy PfSense user :)

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                jasonlitka
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                @nikkon:

                @BlueKobold:

                Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

                What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

                Intel Gigabit CT EXPI9301CTBLK

                … So you're not using the nice Intel i354 NICs that are onboard and instead decided to use a 82574L (which is a entry-server part at best, and better described as desktop chip)?

                I can break anything.

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                  nikkon
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                  yeah…i decided to use this cz after testing with the wan in igb0 -> first lan on the mobo the performance was lower.still looking for an alternative on pciE.
                  need to change it soon...but i have no much to chooce from

                  pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                  Happy PfSense user :)

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                    robi
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                    @nikkon:

                    @BlueKobold:

                    Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

                    What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

                    Intel Gigabit CT EXPI9301CTBLK

                    Hmmm… you get gigabit pppoe with this?

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                      nikkon
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                      i only get ~550 Mb

                      pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                      Happy PfSense user :)

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                        nikkon
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                        the limitation is on my wan interface.not the system specs

                        pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                        Happy PfSense user :)

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                          Guest
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                          the limitation is on my wan interface.not the system specs

                          Hm, and why it is so? Do you think that with another NIC you will recive more throughput than now?

                          i only get ~550 Mb

                          What is the entire or full speed of your Internet connection?

                          Did you try out high up or narrow down the mbuf size?
                          Did you try out enabling PowerD (hi adaptive or adative mode)?

                          Ok if there will also Snort, Squid, ClamAV and other packets are installed and working
                          it all narrows down also the entire throughput as I will assume.

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                            nikkon
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                            isp provides 1000 Mbps
                            it works for real to max 980 Mb
                            http://www.rcs-rds.ro/internet-digi-net/fiberlink?t=internet-fix&pachet=digi_net_fiberlink_1000
                            yes i have snort, dansguardian, squid on top

                            pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                            Happy PfSense user :)

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                              Guest
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                              it works for real to max 980 Mb

                              This is really good! Plus the TCP/IP overhead you will be easily sorted with real 1 GBit/s, that is really nice!

                              yes i have snort, dansguardian, squid on top

                              I am pretty sure that this three packets are shorten the entire WAN throughput and that it is not really
                              owed to your Intel NIC at the WAN port, it is more that the packets "eating" much CPU power.

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                                nikkon
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                                i'm gonna try using a Intel i350-T4 adaptor for wan and see if there is any difference…i expect it to be.
                                CPU looks verry low usage....always....even when i run the python script for speed test...it goes to max 35% per core.

                                pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                                Happy PfSense user :)

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                                  robi
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                                  As per my signature below, I get 717Mbps from the same provider, with Supermicro C2758, and using one of the onboard ports as wan.
                                  I don't get 980 with this hardware.
                                  I only get around 980 Mbps with their CPE router provided, instead of pfSense, but I don't want to use that.

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                                    Guest
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                                    i'm gonna try using a Intel i350-T4 adaptor for wan and see if there is any difference…i expect it to be.

                                    Really? Is there a so great difference between the Intel i354 onBoard NICs and the Intel i350-T4?
                                    Both seems to be pretty new and also server grade hardware, or am I wrong with this?

                                    As per my signature below, I get 717Mbps from the same provider, with Supermicro C2758, and using one of the onboard ports as wan.

                                    Perhaps you get more or a higher throughput pending on that you are not using on top of pfSense
                                    all of the following packets like Snort, Squid and DansGuardian? Only perhaps I mean.

                                    I don't get 980 with this hardware.

                                    This is a little bit odd or curious because it is the same ISP and perhaps the same Internet connection with
                                    1 GBit/s of speed. And besides getting 980 MBit/s + count the TCP/IP overhead on top  might be a real
                                    1 GBit/s line that is delivered to you.

                                    I only get around 980 Mbps with their CPE router provided, instead of pfSense, but I don't want to use that.

                                    But ok this routers are doing the whole work in silicon by using an ASIC or FPGA and normally
                                    there will be also no firewall rules in that game. And running on this router some stuff likes
                                    IDS, HTTP Proxy and AVscan it would never be able  to reach the full 1 GBit/s too I would imagine.

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                                      robi
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                                      It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug, that limits my speed through pfSense. When at 717Mbps, usage is at about 13% - which corresponds to the load of only one single CPU core (out of 8 cores) on C2758.
                                      No Snort, Squid and DansGuardian, but about 10 vlans behind it, and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

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                                        nikkon
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                                        @robi:

                                        It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug, that limits my speed through pfSense. When at 717Mbps, usage is at about 13% - which corresponds to the load of only one single CPU core (out of 8 cores) on C2758.
                                        No Snort, Squid and DansGuardian, but about 10 vlans behind it, and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                                        Yes it is!
                                        I got the same speed without Snort, dansguardian and squid or pfblokerNG.

                                        I was tested also an ASA 5506 and the max i got was 325Mb in the same line.
                                        for some reason…on my onbord controller i got slower speed.Will keep the i350-T4 pciE for wan and the other 4 for lan.
                                        2x for lan --> connected to my distribution switch (microtik CCR1009-8G-1S-PC)
                                        2x for NAS --> connect to NAS lagg

                                        I may use some ports from the i350-T4 to connect my ESXi Server...maybe...

                                        btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue ?

                                        pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                                        Happy PfSense user :)

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                                          Guest
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                                          It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug,

                                          If they get solved this I would imagine 70 % of all users will be happy.

                                          and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                                          As I am informed each OpenVPN tunnel is using one CPU core. So this could also
                                          narrow down the entire throughput a bit more as we could imagine. Or am I wrong with this.

                                          btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue?

                                          Yep if so it many customers would be sorted right at one touch. I was also lurking on
                                          the new Xeon D-15x8 network accelerated platforms, but they are not fully launched till
                                          today so I have to wait longer. But it is likes it is, their is the NVMe M.2 SSD the problem
                                          to get this SSD type working flawless as reported here in the forum.

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                                            robi
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                                            @BlueKobold:

                                            It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug,

                                            If they get solved this I would imagine 70 % of all users will be happy.

                                            Agree…

                                            @BlueKobold:

                                            and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                                            As I am informed each OpenVPN tunnel is using one CPU core. So this could also
                                            narrow down the entire throughput a bit more as we could imagine. Or am I wrong with this.

                                            Well I don't really see which process goes to which core, but I really hope OpenVPN procresses don't stick all to the same single core as pppoe… The operating system should take care to distribute different processes to different available cores of the CPU.
                                            So far I didn't have problems with this, as traffic inside these tunnels is only limited to inter-site intranet traffic, which is minimal.

                                            @BlueKobold:

                                            btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue?

                                            Yep if so it many customers would be sorted right at one touch.

                                            As far as I read the bug reports, they are not so optimistic. Where did you see a clear statement that this is going to be fixed in pfSense v2.3???

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