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      jasonlitka
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      @nikkon:

      @BlueKobold:

      Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

      What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

      Intel Gigabit CT EXPI9301CTBLK

      … So you're not using the nice Intel i354 NICs that are onboard and instead decided to use a 82574L (which is a entry-server part at best, and better described as desktop chip)?

      I can break anything.

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        nikkon
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        yeah…i decided to use this cz after testing with the wan in igb0 -> first lan on the mobo the performance was lower.still looking for an alternative on pciE.
        need to change it soon...but i have no much to chooce from

        pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

        Happy PfSense user :)

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          robi
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          @nikkon:

          @BlueKobold:

          Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8gb ram ECC + ssd + dedicated pciE gigabit controller for pppoe.

          What is the dedicated PCIe GB LAN controller for PPPoE in your case?

          Intel Gigabit CT EXPI9301CTBLK

          Hmmm… you get gigabit pppoe with this?

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            nikkon
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            i only get ~550 Mb

            pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

            Happy PfSense user :)

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              nikkon
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              the limitation is on my wan interface.not the system specs

              pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

              Happy PfSense user :)

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                Guest
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                the limitation is on my wan interface.not the system specs

                Hm, and why it is so? Do you think that with another NIC you will recive more throughput than now?

                i only get ~550 Mb

                What is the entire or full speed of your Internet connection?

                Did you try out high up or narrow down the mbuf size?
                Did you try out enabling PowerD (hi adaptive or adative mode)?

                Ok if there will also Snort, Squid, ClamAV and other packets are installed and working
                it all narrows down also the entire throughput as I will assume.

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                  nikkon
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                  isp provides 1000 Mbps
                  it works for real to max 980 Mb
                  http://www.rcs-rds.ro/internet-digi-net/fiberlink?t=internet-fix&pachet=digi_net_fiberlink_1000
                  yes i have snort, dansguardian, squid on top

                  pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                  Happy PfSense user :)

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                    Guest
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                    it works for real to max 980 Mb

                    This is really good! Plus the TCP/IP overhead you will be easily sorted with real 1 GBit/s, that is really nice!

                    yes i have snort, dansguardian, squid on top

                    I am pretty sure that this three packets are shorten the entire WAN throughput and that it is not really
                    owed to your Intel NIC at the WAN port, it is more that the packets "eating" much CPU power.

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                      nikkon
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                      i'm gonna try using a Intel i350-T4 adaptor for wan and see if there is any difference…i expect it to be.
                      CPU looks verry low usage....always....even when i run the python script for speed test...it goes to max 35% per core.

                      pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                      Happy PfSense user :)

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                        robi
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                        As per my signature below, I get 717Mbps from the same provider, with Supermicro C2758, and using one of the onboard ports as wan.
                        I don't get 980 with this hardware.
                        I only get around 980 Mbps with their CPE router provided, instead of pfSense, but I don't want to use that.

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                          Guest
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                          i'm gonna try using a Intel i350-T4 adaptor for wan and see if there is any difference…i expect it to be.

                          Really? Is there a so great difference between the Intel i354 onBoard NICs and the Intel i350-T4?
                          Both seems to be pretty new and also server grade hardware, or am I wrong with this?

                          As per my signature below, I get 717Mbps from the same provider, with Supermicro C2758, and using one of the onboard ports as wan.

                          Perhaps you get more or a higher throughput pending on that you are not using on top of pfSense
                          all of the following packets like Snort, Squid and DansGuardian? Only perhaps I mean.

                          I don't get 980 with this hardware.

                          This is a little bit odd or curious because it is the same ISP and perhaps the same Internet connection with
                          1 GBit/s of speed. And besides getting 980 MBit/s + count the TCP/IP overhead on top  might be a real
                          1 GBit/s line that is delivered to you.

                          I only get around 980 Mbps with their CPE router provided, instead of pfSense, but I don't want to use that.

                          But ok this routers are doing the whole work in silicon by using an ASIC or FPGA and normally
                          there will be also no firewall rules in that game. And running on this router some stuff likes
                          IDS, HTTP Proxy and AVscan it would never be able  to reach the full 1 GBit/s too I would imagine.

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                            robi
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                            It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug, that limits my speed through pfSense. When at 717Mbps, usage is at about 13% - which corresponds to the load of only one single CPU core (out of 8 cores) on C2758.
                            No Snort, Squid and DansGuardian, but about 10 vlans behind it, and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

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                              nikkon
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                              @robi:

                              It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug, that limits my speed through pfSense. When at 717Mbps, usage is at about 13% - which corresponds to the load of only one single CPU core (out of 8 cores) on C2758.
                              No Snort, Squid and DansGuardian, but about 10 vlans behind it, and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                              Yes it is!
                              I got the same speed without Snort, dansguardian and squid or pfblokerNG.

                              I was tested also an ASA 5506 and the max i got was 325Mb in the same line.
                              for some reason…on my onbord controller i got slower speed.Will keep the i350-T4 pciE for wan and the other 4 for lan.
                              2x for lan --> connected to my distribution switch (microtik CCR1009-8G-1S-PC)
                              2x for NAS --> connect to NAS lagg

                              I may use some ports from the i350-T4 to connect my ESXi Server...maybe...

                              btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue ?

                              pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                              Happy PfSense user :)

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                                Guest
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                                It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug,

                                If they get solved this I would imagine 70 % of all users will be happy.

                                and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                                As I am informed each OpenVPN tunnel is using one CPU core. So this could also
                                narrow down the entire throughput a bit more as we could imagine. Or am I wrong with this.

                                btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue?

                                Yep if so it many customers would be sorted right at one touch. I was also lurking on
                                the new Xeon D-15x8 network accelerated platforms, but they are not fully launched till
                                today so I have to wait longer. But it is likes it is, their is the NVMe M.2 SSD the problem
                                to get this SSD type working flawless as reported here in the forum.

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                                  robi
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                                  @BlueKobold:

                                  It must be that damn single-core pppoe bug,

                                  If they get solved this I would imagine 70 % of all users will be happy.

                                  Agree…

                                  @BlueKobold:

                                  and 3 site-to-site OpenVPNs, +some road warriors.

                                  As I am informed each OpenVPN tunnel is using one CPU core. So this could also
                                  narrow down the entire throughput a bit more as we could imagine. Or am I wrong with this.

                                  Well I don't really see which process goes to which core, but I really hope OpenVPN procresses don't stick all to the same single core as pppoe… The operating system should take care to distribute different processes to different available cores of the CPU.
                                  So far I didn't have problems with this, as traffic inside these tunnels is only limited to inter-site intranet traffic, which is minimal.

                                  @BlueKobold:

                                  btw: do we know for sure that 2.3 will solve the PPPoE issue?

                                  Yep if so it many customers would be sorted right at one touch.

                                  As far as I read the bug reports, they are not so optimistic. Where did you see a clear statement that this is going to be fixed in pfSense v2.3???

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                                    Guest
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                                    As far as I read the bug reports, they are not so optimistic. Where did you see a clear statement that this is going to be fixed in pfSense v2.3???

                                    There is not clear statement out! @nikkon was asking for what we can be sure on this that it will be
                                    solved out in the version 2.3 and I was answering if they get it to work, many users will be sorted with
                                    one touch.

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                                      louf
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                                      @nikkon @robi I have RDS as well. Too bad PPPoE is an issue since one of the reasons for moving to it was to get away from the proprietary wifi routers and their 'magic'/'hardware' NAT without sacrificing speed. I wonder if there are any PPPoE bridges out there - use the ISP box to handle PPPoE and pfsense for routing (maybe through some virtual lan or such)?

                                      @nikkon where in RO did you get supermicro? I don't see a lot of options.

                                      @sudonim interesting comment about em vs igb driver. Initially I went with em but after reading the comments about it being old and igb being newly written and supported, I decided to go for the respective Intel NICs, basically 82575 and 82576 - on paper they look a lot beefier than 82571. Can you expand on why em is better than igb? Thanks!

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                                        nikkon
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                                        I got my both supermicro mobo's from Elko
                                        First one was an J1900. Both ware planned for pfsense :)

                                        pfsense 2.3.4 on Supermicro A1SRi-2758F + 8GB ECC + SSD

                                        Happy PfSense user :)

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                                          louf
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                                          How big was the CPU difference after the upgrade?

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                                            hardsense
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                                            Same goes to this thread here..
                                            Would you run iperf test first ?
                                            So that at least you roughly know what your hardware is capable of.

                                            Some good ref on how user test his hardware so that he understand what exactly his hardware is capable of:
                                            https://forums.openvpn.net/topic15861.html

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